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Cover Songs that are better than the original (1 Viewer)
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Village Idiot
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wraith5
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wraith5
Footballguy
It cannot be. You can LIKE it better, but it's not more authentic. This is the equivalent of you writing a poem about the darkest, most despairing moment of your life. Imagine you were teetering on the brink of suicide and poured those emotions out on to paper. It was everything you were, the most intense emotional experience of your life. You had the stones to go on the air (imagine the world cared about what you or I was going through, not just famous people) and read this poem. Then, a year or so later, Morgan Freeman re-read it at an inaugural address or something. And America said - "The Freeman reading was so much more authentic. I wasn't really buying it when medium aristotle read that poem, it rang hollow and seemed like the emotion was artificial. But when Morgan Freeman read it... man. You could really tell those words were about him."That's what you're saying. If someone said - "It's a really great poem, but I think it sounds better in Morgan Freeman's voice", you couldn't argue with that. It's an opinion. But for someone to say your words were more authentic coming out of someone else's mouth? Would you really accept that?I'm only referring to how the song is performed. Cash's performance is more authentic IMO.'Evilgrin 72 said:What? Do you understand what authentic means? This is like saying the Venetian hotel in Vegas is more authentic than Venice because Venice has some weird smells floating around it and there are bums on the street corners.'medium aristotle said:Why can't it? The Johnny Cash cover is more authentic. The Trent Reznor version is overly-dramatic and a tad phony IMO.'Evilgrin 72 said:Someone please just say no, it can't be more authentic than the original. Just do this for me so I don't have to have this fight again. I'm sure it's the thread Belljr linked earlier in which I had this same argument before - I don't have the energy to do it again.'Apple Jack said:More authentic than the author's rendering?'medium aristotle said:I always found Cash's version to be a lot more "authentic"'sho nuff said:See...I love Cash and all...but I think that is one of the most overrated covers of all time.I dig the orginal and was never a fan of Cash's version.'medium aristotle said:'Klimtology said:
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More authentic than EG's version.
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medium aristotle
Footballguy
it rang hollow and seemed like the emotion was artificial.I'm only referring to how the song is performed. Cash's performance is more authentic IMO.'Evilgrin 72 said:What? Do you understand what authentic means? This is like saying the Venetian hotel in Vegas is more authentic than Venice because Venice has some weird smells floating around it and there are bums on the street corners.'medium aristotle said:Why can't it? The Johnny Cash cover is more authentic. The Trent Reznor version is overly-dramatic and a tad phony IMO.'Evilgrin 72 said:Someone please just say no, it can't be more authentic than the original. Just do this for me so I don't have to have this fight again. I'm sure it's the thread Belljr linked earlier in which I had this same argument before - I don't have the energy to do it again.'Apple Jack said:More authentic than the author's rendering?'medium aristotle said:I always found Cash's version to be a lot more "authentic"'sho nuff said:See...I love Cash and all...but I think that is one of the most overrated covers of all time.I dig the orginal and was never a fan of Cash's version.'medium aristotle said:'Klimtology said:
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zamboni
Footballguy
That's stone cold craziness indeed.
zamboni
Footballguy
A whole ton of Pearl Jam ones:
Sonic Reducer
Crazy Mary
Last Kiss
Heart to Hang Onto
I Got You
It's OK
Masters of War
Lay Lady Lay
At there are some that would be considerd blasphemy to mention, but they are some amazing covers
Rockin In The Free World
Baba O Riley
Love Reign O'er Me
"Light My Fire"/"Roadhouse Blues"/"Break on Through" (Eddie only with remaining members of The Doors)
Sonic Reducer
Crazy Mary
Last Kiss
Heart to Hang Onto
I Got You
It's OK
Masters of War
Lay Lady Lay
At there are some that would be considerd blasphemy to mention, but they are some amazing covers
Rockin In The Free World
Baba O Riley
Love Reign O'er Me
"Light My Fire"/"Roadhouse Blues"/"Break on Through" (Eddie only with remaining members of The Doors)
Bitter Hate
Footballguy
Yep, when you consider Cash, his life and "the end", and frankly how somber he delivered it, I love it...I like NIN a lot, and am not really a Cash fan, but boy, I would have thought the song was written about him, not that he covered it.'Apple Jack said:That is more about Romanek's video and Rick Rubin's song selection than it is with Cash's delivery or anything. Against the backdrop of his life and age, it became something else. But it's about the video.'sho nuff said:See...I love Cash and all...but I think that is one of the most overrated covers of all time.I dig the orginal and was never a fan of Cash's version.'medium aristotle said:'Klimtology said:
TexanFan02
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Trent Reznor seems to like it:'Evilgrin 72 said:Someone please just say no, it can't be more authentic than the original. Just do this for me so I don't have to have this fight again. I'm sure it's the thread Belljr linked earlier in which I had this same argument before - I don't have the energy to do it again.'Apple Jack said:More authentic than the author's rendering?'medium aristotle said:I always found Cash's version to be a lot more "authentic"'sho nuff said:See...I love Cash and all...but I think that is one of the most overrated covers of all time.I dig the orginal and was never a fan of Cash's version.'medium aristotle said:'Klimtology said:
medium aristotle
Footballguy
No, no, no.... maybe Trent Reznor likes the Johnny Cash version of the song better, but there is not way it's as sincere or pure... that would be like some whiny dwooshbag on a message board claiming to be the final arbiter of all things music, forgetting that there were WAY more whiny music-snob dooooshbags before that have been smacked down by Reznors own realization that his song has in fact been replicated... the replication being greater than the replicated.Trent Reznor seems to like it:'Evilgrin 72 said:Someone please just say no, it can't be more authentic than the original. Just do this for me so I don't have to have this fight again. I'm sure it's the thread Belljr linked earlier in which I had this same argument before - I don't have the energy to do it again.'Apple Jack said:More authentic than the author's rendering?'medium aristotle said:I always found Cash's version to be a lot more "authentic"'sho nuff said:See...I love Cash and all...but I think that is one of the most overrated covers of all time.I dig the orginal and was never a fan of Cash's version.'medium aristotle said:'Klimtology said:
Apple Jack
Footballguy
Right, but the issue is you're nonsense about a cover that cash neither chose, nor arranged, is authentic, while reznor's is phony. Its the height of not getting it, Jim.No, no, no.... maybe Trent Reznor likes the Johnny Cash version of the song better, but there is not way it's as sincere or pure... that would be like some whiny dwooshbag on a message board claiming to be the final arbiter of all things music, forgetting that there were WAY more whiny music-snob dooooshbags before that have been smacked down by Reznors own realization that his song has in fact been replicated... the replication being greater than the replicated.Trent Reznor seems to like it:'Evilgrin 72 said:Someone please just say no, it can't be more authentic than the original. Just do this for me so I don't have to have this fight again. I'm sure it's the thread Belljr linked earlier in which I had this same argument before - I don't have the energy to do it again.'Apple Jack said:More authentic than the author's rendering?'medium aristotle said:I always found Cash's version to be a lot more "authentic"'sho nuff said:See...I love Cash and all...but I think that is one of the most overrated covers of all time.I dig the orginal and was never a fan of Cash's version.'medium aristotle said:'Klimtology said:
TexanFan02
Footballguy
Me too.No, no, no.... maybe Trent Reznor likes the Johnny Cash version of the song better, but there is not way it's as sincere or pure... that would be like some whiny dwooshbag on a message board claiming to be the final arbiter of all things music, forgetting that there were WAY more whiny music-snob dooooshbags before that have been smacked down by Reznors own realization that his song has in fact been replicated... the replication being greater than the replicated.Trent Reznor seems to like it:'Evilgrin 72 said:Someone please just say no, it can't be more authentic than the original. Just do this for me so I don't have to have this fight again. I'm sure it's the thread Belljr linked earlier in which I had this same argument before - I don't have the energy to do it again.'Apple Jack said:More authentic than the author's rendering?'medium aristotle said:I always found Cash's version to be a lot more "authentic"'sho nuff said:See...I love Cash and all...but I think that is one of the most overrated covers of all time.I dig the orginal and was never a fan of Cash's version.'medium aristotle said:'Klimtology said:
Wingnut
Footballguy
The Goat
Footballguy
Mr. Brownstone
Footballguy
Me First... Pick a song.
The Goat
Footballguy
True this...I figured Kermit the Frog was a safe target.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Not really. It's the voice, it's the guitar. I liked it ten times more than NIN before I ever saw the video. The Dylan ones are tough. I'd put Jimi equal and GnR below. Mad World is a great pick. There's a diamond on the tip of my tongue but I can't place it...'Apple Jack said:That is more about Romanek's video and Rick Rubin's song selection than it is with Cash's delivery or anything. Against the backdrop of his life and age, it became something else. But it's about the video.'sho nuff said:See...I love Cash and all...but I think that is one of the most overrated covers of all time.I dig the orginal and was never a fan of Cash's version.'medium aristotle said:'Klimtology said:
mad sweeney
Footballguy
I like Sonic Youth's version better. Much better.
Apple Jack
Footballguy
Actually, Kris Kristoferson wrote it, but I agree.The two Dylan covers I prefer to Bob's are Hendrix's Watchtower and the Jerry Garcia Band version of I Shall Be Released from the '91 live release.
TexanFan02
Footballguy
I know it's been mentioned, but when I saw this thread the first thing I thought of was Hazy Shade of Winter. Bangles killed it.
flapgreen
Footballguy
Binky The Doormat
Footballguy
Came here to post the same - so here is the linkhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3yu6kuCkWg&feature=related'PlasmaDogPlasma said:
flapgreen
Footballguy
So hard to seperate the two. Unbelievable video. Just unreal...'Apple Jack said:That is more about Romanek's video and Rick Rubin's song selection than it is with Cash's delivery or anything. Against the backdrop of his life and age, it became something else. But it's about the video.'sho nuff said:See...I love Cash and all...but I think that is one of the most overrated covers of all time.I dig the orginal and was never a fan of Cash's version.'medium aristotle said:'Klimtology said:
Wingnut
Footballguy
Couldnt find a video of the performance, but heres the audio with pics:
A cool version, but Im not thinking its better than the original.
Just Win Baby
Footballguy
Van Halen's cover of You Really Got Me was the first song that came to mind.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Rush - Summertime Blues
Dave Matthews Band - All Along the Watchtower
Transatlantic - The Return of the Giant Hogweed (for the ending alone)
Dave Matthews Band - All Along the Watchtower
Transatlantic - The Return of the Giant Hogweed (for the ending alone)
ShaqAttaq
Morally Ambiguous
otb_lifer
Footballguy
otb_lifer
Footballguy
"My Back Pages" (Byrds) down?
zamboni
Footballguy
The Damned cover is decent, but that's crazy talk to say it's better than the Love original.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
I like both, but I actually heard the Damned version first and that usually rules my order.
zamboni
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Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
From a 1994 Rolling Stone interview, after "The Downward Spiral" was released.
"But I got dragged into a strip club a few months ago," Reznor says, wand it was, like, 1:30 in the morning. To my horror, to my absolute horror, I realized the DJ was playing 'Hurt,' the last track on Downward Spiral and a song based on the most personal sentiments, the deepest emotions I have ever had: 'I hurt myself today/To see if I still feel.' We were crying when we made it, it was so intense. I didn't know if I even wanted to put it on the album. But there we were, and there it was, and girls were taking their clothes off to it."
So, which version is artificial sentiment?
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
You would have thought so, but you would be wrong.Yep, when you consider Cash, his life and "the end", and frankly how somber he delivered it, I love it...I like NIN a lot, and am not really a Cash fan, but boy, I would have thought the song was written about him, not that he covered it.'Apple Jack said:That is more about Romanek's video and Rick Rubin's song selection than it is with Cash's delivery or anything. Against the backdrop of his life and age, it became something else. But it's about the video.'sho nuff said:See...I love Cash and all...but I think that is one of the most overrated covers of all time.I dig the orginal and was never a fan of Cash's version.'medium aristotle said:'Klimtology said:
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Whoa, whoa, whoa, Tiger. I'm not sure where in there you're getting that the replication was greater than the original. "Different, but every bit as pure." First off, of course he's going to say that. What's he going to do, say - "Eh, it sucked"? Maybe he does really love it, and maybe you do too. If you had even said what Reznor said - that the cover is different, but every bit as pure, I might have let that go. You didn't. You said it was "more authentic" and goodposted the statement that the original was hollow and artificial. That's just ignorant.You can argue this all you want, but you look foolish when you start with the name-calling just because you were called out on not having a clue what the word "authentic" means. Let me help you out, here is the published definition of authentic :No, no, no.... maybe Trent Reznor likes the Johnny Cash version of the song better, but there is not way it's as sincere or pure... that would be like some whiny dwooshbag on a message board claiming to be the final arbiter of all things music, forgetting that there were WAY more whiny music-snob dooooshbags before that have been smacked down by Reznors own realization that his song has in fact been replicated... the replication being greater than the replicated.Trent Reznor seems to like it:'Evilgrin 72 said:Someone please just say no, it can't be more authentic than the original. Just do this for me so I don't have to have this fight again. I'm sure it's the thread Belljr linked earlier in which I had this same argument before - I don't have the energy to do it again.'Apple Jack said:More authentic than the author's rendering?'medium aristotle said:I always found Cash's version to be a lot more "authentic"'sho nuff said:See...I love Cash and all...but I think that is one of the most overrated covers of all time.I dig the orginal and was never a fan of Cash's version.'medium aristotle said:'Klimtology said:
1.not false or copied: genuine and original, as opposed to being a fake or reproduction
Read that a few times. Now, let me know if you feel that the REPRODUCTION of the song that Johnny Cash recorded is more authentic than the ORIGINAL song. This isn't about being a "music snob doooooshbag", it's about having a mastery of the English language.
Want to continue your "smackdown"?
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Thank you.Right, but the issue is you're nonsense about a cover that cash neither chose, nor arranged, is authentic, while reznor's is phony. Its the height of not getting it, Jim.No, no, no.... maybe Trent Reznor likes the Johnny Cash version of the song better, but there is not way it's as sincere or pure... that would be like some whiny dwooshbag on a message board claiming to be the final arbiter of all things music, forgetting that there were WAY more whiny music-snob dooooshbags before that have been smacked down by Reznors own realization that his song has in fact been replicated... the replication being greater than the replicated.Trent Reznor seems to like it:'Evilgrin 72 said:Someone please just say no, it can't be more authentic than the original. Just do this for me so I don't have to have this fight again. I'm sure it's the thread Belljr linked earlier in which I had this same argument before - I don't have the energy to do it again.'Apple Jack said:More authentic than the author's rendering?'medium aristotle said:I always found Cash's version to be a lot more "authentic"'sho nuff said:See...I love Cash and all...but I think that is one of the most overrated covers of all time.I dig the orginal and was never a fan of Cash's version.'medium aristotle said:'Klimtology said:
Please See Mine
Footballguy
Really dark. Hitting that low, distorted note before going into the chorus just bottoms out the emotion. Awesome.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
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