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Guys - this truly is the year where McFadden has his absolute BEST opportunity to finally fulfill those lofty expectations if the fantasy world.
He has an exciting QB that is going to help open up the field for him as the season progresses.
He is healthy (for now)
The raiders changed their blocking scheme to one that fits his running style.
He is in a contract year.
No one can deny his physical abilities when healthy and in the right situation.
Yesterday he was literally ONE inch away from a Multi TD game and a top 2 or 3 fantasy week for RBs. If GE kept that foot in bounds on that beautiful catch he would rank rt after Peterson.
I was very encouraged yesterday by the entire raiders offense and McFadden. His ypc will get better as opposing teams begin to respect Pryor more and more and realize that McFadden is no longer the ONLY game in town to worry about.
When they stack the box and Pryor makes them pay they will stop stacking the box.
I'm holding into McFadden for the simple fact that regardless of his week 1 performance, he is still damaged goods in the eyes of most fantasy players and you are just not going to get any good returns for selling him right now.
He has an exciting QB that is going to help open up the field for him as the season progresses.
He is healthy (for now)
The raiders changed their blocking scheme to one that fits his running style.
He is in a contract year.
No one can deny his physical abilities when healthy and in the right situation.
Yesterday he was literally ONE inch away from a Multi TD game and a top 2 or 3 fantasy week for RBs. If GE kept that foot in bounds on that beautiful catch he would rank rt after Peterson.
I was very encouraged yesterday by the entire raiders offense and McFadden. His ypc will get better as opposing teams begin to respect Pryor more and more and realize that McFadden is no longer the ONLY game in town to worry about.
When they stack the box and Pryor makes them pay they will stop stacking the box.
I'm holding into McFadden for the simple fact that regardless of his week 1 performance, he is still damaged goods in the eyes of most fantasy players and you are just not going to get any good returns for selling him right now.
renesauz
IBL Representative
This. I won't go so far as to say I won't trade him, but it will take a clear upgrade to another RB1. Where I own DM, I was careful to back him up with at least a serviceable option. McFadden may or may not stay healthy, but when he is, he's a top 10 RB. 16 healthy games would result in a top 5 finish (NOT holding my breath for this).
I would think the decision to hold or trade is best made by examining your backups. Serviceable to good should mean hold- poor to non-existent should mean trade
dgreen
Footballguy
A) From what I understand (based on very little reading), Pryor's ground production wasn't on designed runs. Pryor wasn't really taking away from McFadden (other than maybe a couple potential targets) because he was pulling the ball down on passing plays. Can anyone who watched the game confirm this?
B) Newton didn't devalue the RB POSITION in Carolina. Individual RBs were devalued because of a RBBC (which included Netwon), but the position as a whole was fine. In 2011, Williams and Stewart combined for over 2000 yards and 12 TDs from scrimmage. In 2012, Williams/Stewart/Tolbert combined for about 1850 yards and 16 TDs from scrimmage. Nothing wrong with that if it was mostly going to one RB.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
HurryUpSundays
Footballguy
He's my savior in grace for David Wilson.
I drafted him before both (pre Brown injury), but felt awful about drafting him before Wilson. I think typically though Wilson was probably drafted before him especially after the Brown injury.
The part that concerns me is Indy is awful against the run and his YPC still wasn't that great. On the flip side, Pryor's success is definitely a positive.
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az_prof
Footballguy
Cam DID devalue the RB position in CAR. It was RBBC before him. He vultures a lot of running TDs that would normally go to a RB and i expect Pryor will too.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
Hard to say the effect exactly, but CAR RB's only had 7 rushing TDs the year before Cam, though they had 17 in '09.
They've had 11 and 13 in Cam's 2 seasons, with Cam getting a ridiculous 22 for himself.
There have been enough RB TDs there, if it weren't a RBBC.
In OAK's case, I'd think the benefit of actually having another weapon in the offense will help DMC more than any TD vulturing will hurt.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
He got one GL touchdown and came thisclose to a nifty 30 yard catch at the pylon. I don't see Pryor's effect on DMC as anything but positive. Put another way, if you had Flynn at QB, what do you think would happen? The Raiders would run a conventional dink and dunk WCO and the defense would stack the box, pinning their ears back on noodle armed Flynn, on their way stuff DMC on any and every carry.
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dgreen
Footballguy
Agreed. Cam didn't just take a larger percentage of the pie; he increased the size of the pie to be distributed.
If Pryor can do the same, McFadden should post better numbers.
karmarooster
Footballguy
I haven't really changed my opinion that McFadden is a sell... I just don't think he's a sell yet.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
Certainly, nobody would want that YPC to continue, but as you mention with studs having low YPC days, you can't really worry too much about one game's YPC.HoTnickZ said:
It's a concern, but he's getting carries and there's reason to believe that offense could be a good amount better than expected. Signs that better running days should be ahead.
Even if they are few and far between, we drafted him planning on some garbage time receiving to help soften that blow.
Honestly, with OAK traveling east for a 1:00 start, the simple fact that they didn't get curb-stomped is reason enough for a bit of optimism.
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I guess we now are starting to see the effect that pryor's presence is having on McFadden. Best thing that could have ever happened to him.
McFadden is back to stud status IMO. Perhaps he does get injured again. Enjoy him until he does and pick up rashad Jennings for week 3.
McFadden is back to stud status IMO. Perhaps he does get injured again. Enjoy him until he does and pick up rashad Jennings for week 3.
grateful zed
Footballguy
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SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Let's see what DMC can do when they travel to DEN next week.
packseasontix
Footballguy
Liking McFadden more and more, I am hopeful his bad luck with injuries might be behind him. Hopefully Pryor can break out to take some pressure of the run game and allow them to sustain drives.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
flysack
Footballguy
flysack
Footballguy
I'm betting Denver shuts down the run and rushes Pryor into dumping it off to DMC.
11 rushes, 45 yards.
6 catches, 70 yards and a TD.
Still a solid outing, even if the Raiders get destroyed.
Coach3K
Footballguy
Good thing you'll only have to hold 1-2 more weeks.
Signed, disgruntled former owner of 3 years.
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pollardsvision
Footballguy
Yeah, I'm not opposed to selling high, but given the state of the RB position, there aren't many clear ways to sell high (for another RB).
For the guys just above him in ADP, I'm not trading him for MJD, Ridley, Wilson, and Gore. Maybe CJ or S-Jax (depending on health). Anything more ambitious to get a clear upgrade just ain't happening.
Catching someone panicking on Trent Richardson is about the only option. I'd make that trade, but we still aren't sure Trent's not a plodder on a poor offensive team. What's he got, 2 carries over 20 yards in his career? "Plodder" is obviously an exaggeration, but it's no slam dunk that Trent's a clear upgrade. Trent owner almost certainly isn't making that trade either.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
karmarooster
Footballguy
Through 2 games, DMC and Pryor have rushed for ~ 330 yards, which works out to 2,700 over 16 games.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Trying to use him to get TRich, obviously in a package. Otherwise it's a hold because we start 1RB, 1WR, 2 flex and right now McFadden is my only RB in my lineup (David Wilson and J. Bell on the bench)
McFadden
Calvin
T. Smith
Givens/Bell
McFadden
Calvin
T. Smith
Givens/Bell
karmarooster
Footballguy
Straight up, McFadden for Trich.... if you could know that each guy would play 16 games, I think DMC outproduces him. If you make that trade its only because you think Trich will play more games than DMC.
packseasontix
Footballguy
McFadden is on the rise for trade value. 2-3 more weeks healthy and he will likely being going for a good price. Its all a gamble but I think he is the guy everyone is targeting as he clearly has the most upside for his "price".
Loving the value so far. If he can keep this up, he's going to help a lot of teams make the playoffs.
flysack
Footballguy
I know I said this, but my confidence in McFadden (and the Raiders) vs. Denver's #1 rush D is shaking.
I have Mendenhall vs. a porous NO run D as an option. I can't believe I'm thinking of taking it. Am I crazy?
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
ANY MORE QUESTIONS???
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
As a two time DMC owner, I would never touch him... But if we were to go back to my draft, I would pull the trigger in round 5 of my 10 team ppr - not to hold him, but to sell right now.
I'd be trying to make a deal with a ray rice, cj spiller, sjax, Reggie bush, etc owner offer a 2 for 1 with DMC as the focal point of my offer.
He will get hurt, it's not if its when... Most owners bought this guy at 50 cents on the dollar. Right now you can turn a good profit.
I'd be trying to make a deal with a ray rice, cj spiller, sjax, Reggie bush, etc owner offer a 2 for 1 with DMC as the focal point of my offer.
He will get hurt, it's not if its when... Most owners bought this guy at 50 cents on the dollar. Right now you can turn a good profit.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Not Sleeping
Footballguy
Whatever. If he gets hurt, he gets hurt. I don't buy the "injury prone" stuff. Sometimes football players get hurt.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Old saying, "the pigs get slaughtered."
You bought DMC for cheap, you can sell for a lot more - Based on historical data, you'd be wise to do so IMO.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
I'm really on the fence. Pryor is giving me hope with McFadden. Gotta say. Sjax is out 3 more weeks - no way I make that deal. I still doubt the Rice owner makes that move. Spiller? hmmm. And Bush has as much injury risk as McFadden, so that's not a clear upgrade in non PPR. I'm starting to wonder if he'll be a serviceable RB2 here on out.
Max Power
Footballguy
I think he is a solid #2 RB for the rest of the season. With as many RBBCs there are, he is getting the touches he needs. I can't see anyone owning a top 10 back willing to trade back for him unless another substantial player comes along in the deal. After that top tier, its really more of a preference than anything else. He has some very nice matchups coming up over the next two months. I'd almost say hes a buy since people are looking to bail
Englishteacher
Footballguy
16 Yards passing versus 9 yards rushing (on 12 carries).
