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jdoggydogg
Footballguy
Yes. And what bizarre to me is that Gailey knows he's on the hot seat. He's known it for weeks. So what does he have to lose by underusing Spiller? What's he saving Spiller for? If I were Gailey, I would have ridden Spiller into the ground. At least he'd have a chance to keep his job that way.
Keeping him fresh implies that they are saving him for later in the game or for some other key moment(s). Despite his freshness, Spiller only got 1 carry in the 4th quarter (when they needed him most), 3 carries in the second half and no targets after the 1st quarter.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
On the flip side, rookie WR T.J. Graham got 7 targets in the passing game.
Both of geniuses in Buffalo, eh?
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
Yeah, how's that working out for Buffalo?
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
All I know is, when I see Spiller running in the open field, all I can think is: "Thank god I don't have to tackle him...Thank god I don't have to tackle him...Thank god I don't have to tackle him...Thank god I don't have to tackle him."On the flip side, rookie WR T.J. Graham got 7 targets in the passing game.
My point is they are not doing this to keep him fresh. What they are doing is inexplicable and their use of Jackson (and lack of use of Spiller) should be questioned.
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
Oh, I agree.
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
Jackson deserves his playing time - there's no doubt. And while Buffalo has plenty of problems, not using your best player in the second half is a pretty huge problem.
zamboni
Footballguy
No argument there.I could buy the previous week's argument that weather conditions (wind and rain) made Fred a better alternative, but no such weather conditions seemed to be in place yesterday.Gailey seems to have a lot of loyalty to Fred, and that's understood given how well he's played over the years. But that loyalty seems to have clouded his judgement for Spiller.Next year, at least a new coach won't have any loyalty to Fred.
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
Loyalty is an admirable trait in a human being, but it's not helping Gailey's coaching career so far.
JPeso
Footballguy
Fred deserveD his playing time, sure, but he's not been nearly effective as last year. He plods and misses holes. He deserves 25-30% of the share of a backfield with Spiller. With no Spiller, sure, he's still capable of being a lead back, but you don't waste a top 5 talent like Spiller.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
I think Spiller is a lock for more touches. That said, I hate these rotoworld articles. Tell me why I should care what WGR 550 Buffalo thinks, I why it's news.
Not aimed at you, Gian. Rather at Rotoworld.
gianmarco
Footballguy
There's a quote in there from the new coach. That quote says it all. I agree that there's tons of fluff and analysis that doesn't have much basis posted a ton. I quoted that because of what Marrone said and it should make Spiller owners quite pleased.I think Spiller is a lock for more touches. That said, I hate these rotoworld articles. Tell me why I should care what WGR 550 Buffalo thinks, I why it's news.
Not aimed at you, Gian. Rather at Rotoworld.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
Thanks, I misread. I thought the quote was from Sal, not Marrone.
ETA: Actually, now I'm not sure which it is. Damn Rotoworld.
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GroveDiesel
Footballguy
The quote is from Sal. It's pure speculation. He's probably right, but that isn't from Marrone in any way. With the way Marrone and Hackett have kept a lid on what they plan to do on offense and defense, I doubt we'll have a good grasp of exactly what they will do until Week 1 on the field.http://www.wgr550.com/pages/16228483.php?contentType=4&contentId=12955241
gianmarco
Footballguy
My fault, I guess I was the one that misread.
Faust
MVP
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JPeso
Footballguy
Right, last offseason, you wouldn't pay RB5 price for spiller last year because you wouldn't have had to do that (unless you played against someone who didn't think the secret was a secret). But at RB15 cost, certainly, or..what if you paid RB10 and put your league in a tizzy with a lopsided deal out of favor. Spiller is an interesting one because of the time he has been chained up; he has presented several opportunities for a call for or against his value:
- rookie draft over Mathews
- rookie draft over Best
- anytime during his rookie year
- year 1 offseason
- anytime during his second year
- year 2 offseason
Spiller can either win you titles right now and next and next and who knows, or you can sell him to someone for (rightfully so) big money if your team can hack losing a lord like that.
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Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
So Fred Jackson is going to have no role?
zamboni
Footballguy
I'm sure he'll get carries, but the torch has clearly been passed. Fred is on the wrong side of 30, coming off two injuries, and perhaps most importantly, the team is not coached by Chan Gailey anymore. Marrone has no prior allegiance to him.
matttyl
Footballguy
As a Spiller owner, I'm kinda still forced to roster F Jax.....but if I weren't a Spiller owner I'm not sure F Jax should even be rostered in a dynasty league.
JPeso
Footballguy
i go back and forth on rostering fred. he has been offered to me for late 3rds this off-season and i've passed. i'd roster if free, but wouldn't pay for him.
matttyl
Footballguy
I feel the same way. I kind have to find the roster room for him as a Spiller owner, but having to roster 2 RBs from the same team on a 31 man roster full IDP league gets tough - even more so when you're also rostering J Stew and D Will.
zamboni
Footballguy
As a fellow Spiller owner, I will probably try to get Fred on my roster as insurance. But I don't view him as highly as previous years (for obvious reasons), and I won't draft him as highly as I did Spiller last year when I owned Fred.
Faust
MVP
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1102782/fred-Jackson
Fred Jackson is 32 years old, and he is coming off his second consecutive season limited from injuries. He still is a handcuff to Spiller, but isn't the threat to take the lion's share of the carries that he once was.
Chris Brody
Footballguy
How refreshing would it be to see a team maximize their use of a talented RB instead of trying to find ways not to pay him?
msommer
Footballguy
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