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raiders d looks really good right now. not liking him this week
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The Nick Foles era (1 Viewer)
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bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Oakland is a trap, feels like a good matchup to roll Foles out there, but it wont be
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
You could also start Foles and watch him just roll back off the field again.
The Tampa game as an anomaly, apparently the Bucs D chose that week to start quitting on their coach.
The Dallas game was like the Dallas game last year for Foles, complete disaster.
This looks good, but maybe it just isn't and never will be.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
renesauz
IBL Representative
Philly has played MUCH better on the road over the last couple of years. MOst of their real stinkers have come at home, where they haven't won since ....September OF LAST YEAR!
Barkley isn't ready, but if Foles is practicing by Thursday, I would be pretty confidant using him Sunday.
Barkley isn't ready, but if Foles is practicing by Thursday, I would be pretty confidant using him Sunday.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Ok, let's look:
Rk Year G Date Age Tm Opp Result GS Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD Int Rate Y/A AY/A Att Yds Y/A TD TD Pts
1 2012 9 2012-11-11 23-296 PHI DAL L 23-38 22 32 68.75% 219 1 1 85.3 6.84 6.06 0 0 0 0 0
2 2012 10 2012-11-18 23-303 PHI WAS L 6-31 * 21 46 45.65% 204 0 2 40.5 4.43 2.48 1 0 0.00 0 0 0
3 2012 11 2012-11-26 23-311 PHI CAR L 22-30 * 16 21 76.19% 119 0 0 89.2 5.67 5.67 1 0 0.00 0 0 0
4 2012 12 2012-12-02 23-317 PHI DAL L 33-38 * 22 34 64.71% 251 1 0 96.6 7.38 7.97 0 0 0 0 0
5 2012 13 2012-12-09 23-324 PHI TAM W 23-21 * 32 51 62.75% 381 2 0 98.6 7.47 8.25 3 27 9.00 1 1 6
6 2012 14 2012-12-13 23-328 PHI CIN L 13-34 * 16 33 48.48% 180 1 1 62.7 5.45 4.70 2 5 2.50 0 0 0
7 2012 15 2012-12-23 23-338 PHI WAS L 20-27 * 32 48 66.67% 345 1 1 85.9 7.19 6.67 4 10 2.50 0 0 0
Rk Year G Date Age Tm Opp Result GS Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD Int Rate Y/A AY/A Att Yds Y/A TD TD Pts
8 2013 2 2013-09-15 24-238 PHI SDG L 30-33 0 1 0.00% 0 0 0 39.6 0.00 0.00 0 0 0 0 0
9 2013 4 2013-09-29 24-252 PHI DEN L 20-52 3 4 75.00% 49 1 0 155.2 12.25 17.25 0 0 0 0 0
10 2013 5 2013-10-06 24-259 PHI NYG W 36-21 16 25 64.00% 197 2 0 114.9 7.88 9.48 3 1 0.33 0 0 0
11 2013 6 2013-10-13 24-266 PHI TAM W 31-20 * 22 31 70.97% 296 3 0 133.3 9.55 11.48 3 2 0.67 1 1 6
12 2013 7 2013-10-20 24-273 PHI DAL L 3-17 * 11 29 37.93% 80 0 0 46.2 2.76 2.76 3 25 8.33 0 0 0
12 Games
On the face of it, you're right and I wasn't remembering the Dalls game(s) last year very well. Maybe it was that Redskins game after the Cowboys game I was thinking of. It wasn't all rosey, I see 4 subpar games in there out of 7 in 2012. Maybe 1 excellent game, 1 good game, 1 average game.
Statistically (this is what it's all about) it checks out.
Maybe he's a good add (again) after all, I suppose I was just pretty disgusted after that last outing. Still I would be careful starting him until he's fully through with the concussion issue.
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Amused to Death
Footballguy
Looking at 2012, I'd throw out the game he came in cold for his first NFL action (and I think he outperformed Vick IIRC). He was pretty bad his 1st NFL start (21-46-204-0-2) and then looked pretty good for a 3-game stretch before another stinker (16-33-180-1-1) before a strong finish, going 32-48-345-1-1.
2013, I wouldn't count his 1 pass attempt coming in cold off the bench against the Chargers. Part time duty against Denver he was 3 of 4 for 49
with a TD. In essentially 1 half agains the Giants he was 16 of 25 for 197 and 2 TDs. Tampa was Tampa and then the game against Dallas.
Career 60% completion, 12 TDs and 5 INTs in 12 games. 84.7 QB rating
2013, I wouldn't count his 1 pass attempt coming in cold off the bench against the Chargers. Part time duty against Denver he was 3 of 4 for 49
with a TD. In essentially 1 half agains the Giants he was 16 of 25 for 197 and 2 TDs. Tampa was Tampa and then the game against Dallas.
Career 60% completion, 12 TDs and 5 INTs in 12 games. 84.7 QB rating
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Resident A
Footballguy
I don't think I can trust any Eagles QB again this year. After being burned repeatedly by Vick/Foles exiting the game early, I finally traded for another QB. Foles may have a few big games in him, but I'm not gonna risk starting him again. What about his phantom groin injury, is that in the past now?
ShaHBucks
Footballguy
Lets keep in mind that he was a rookie being asked to throw the ball close to 40x's a game.Looking at 2012, I'd throw out the game he came in cold for his first NFL action (and I think he outperformed Vick IIRC). He was pretty bad his 1st NFL start (21-46-204-0-2) and then looked pretty good for a 3-game stretch before another stinker (16-33-180-1-1) before a strong finish, going 32-48-345-1-1.
2013, I wouldn't count his 1 pass attempt coming in cold off the bench against the Chargers. Part time duty against Denver he was 3 of 4 for 49
with a TD. In essentially 1 half agains the Giants he was 16 of 25 for 197 and 2 TDs. Tampa was Tampa and then the game against Dallas.
Career 60% completion, 12 TDs and 5 INTs in 12 games. 84.7 QB rating
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
While missing 9 startersLets keep in mind that he was a rookie being asked to throw the ball close to 40x's a game.Looking at 2012, I'd throw out the game he came in cold for his first NFL action (and I think he outperformed Vick IIRC). He was pretty bad his 1st NFL start (21-46-204-0-2) and then looked pretty good for a 3-game stretch before another stinker (16-33-180-1-1) before a strong finish, going 32-48-345-1-1.
2013, I wouldn't count his 1 pass attempt coming in cold off the bench against the Chargers. Part time duty against Denver he was 3 of 4 for 49
with a TD. In essentially 1 half agains the Giants he was 16 of 25 for 197 and 2 TDs. Tampa was Tampa and then the game against Dallas.
Career 60% completion, 12 TDs and 5 INTs in 12 games. 84.7 QB rating
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Oh I agree. I was disputing the statement that the recent TB game as an anomaly and the Dallas game was more in line with what people can expect going forward. He's been a pretty good QB all things considered. That's what makes the Dallas game a head-scratcher. Very much contrary to what we'd expect from Foles.While missing 9 startersLets keep in mind that he was a rookie being asked to throw the ball close to 40x's a game.Looking at 2012, I'd throw out the game he came in cold for his first NFL action (and I think he outperformed Vick IIRC). He was pretty bad his 1st NFL start (21-46-204-0-2) and then looked pretty good for a 3-game stretch before another stinker (16-33-180-1-1) before a strong finish, going 32-48-345-1-1.
2013, I wouldn't count his 1 pass attempt coming in cold off the bench against the Chargers. Part time duty against Denver he was 3 of 4 for 49
with a TD. In essentially 1 half agains the Giants he was 16 of 25 for 197 and 2 TDs. Tampa was Tampa and then the game against Dallas.
Career 60% completion, 12 TDs and 5 INTs in 12 games. 84.7 QB rating
Other than a couple of pretty bad games, I don't know what more people expect from him.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
I think people have been so conditioned to only accept the "athletic QB" here that they write off anyone who isnt one of them. As soon as they suit up they're Hoying, Detmer, Kolb etc.Oh I agree. I was disputing the statement that the recent TB game as an anomaly and the Dallas game was more in line with what people can expect going forward. He's been a pretty good QB all things considered. That's what makes the Dallas game a head-scratcher. Very much contrary to what we'd expect from Foles.While missing 9 startersLets keep in mind that he was a rookie being asked to throw the ball close to 40x's a game.Looking at 2012, I'd throw out the game he came in cold for his first NFL action (and I think he outperformed Vick IIRC). He was pretty bad his 1st NFL start (21-46-204-0-2) and then looked pretty good for a 3-game stretch before another stinker (16-33-180-1-1) before a strong finish, going 32-48-345-1-1.
2013, I wouldn't count his 1 pass attempt coming in cold off the bench against the Chargers. Part time duty against Denver he was 3 of 4 for 49
with a TD. In essentially 1 half agains the Giants he was 16 of 25 for 197 and 2 TDs. Tampa was Tampa and then the game against Dallas.
Career 60% completion, 12 TDs and 5 INTs in 12 games. 84.7 QB rating
Other than a couple of pretty bad games, I don't know what more people expect from him.
babydemon90
Footballguy
Good... Will be interesting to see how Foles responds after the Dalllas stinker. Can he put it behind him and learn from it, or is it in his head. Either way it'll be good to know.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
I was down on him, but it's amazing how desperate circumstances can make you do a 180 on the players on your roster.
Now I'm hopeful again, but I am starting Pryor over him this week.
Hopefully this grows into a winning QBBC approach but I do want to see Foles last this game before I start him again.
Philly does have a nice 2nd half schedule, & there's DJax & McCoy and Foles seems to have a rapport with Cooper.
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
He was close there vs Dallas. On the DAL 9 yard line, down just 10-0 in the late 3rd quarter, he had a legit shot of winning that game and maybe coming away with 2 TDs. Things changed very quickly.
Rick James
Footballguy
so is Vick droppable in re-draft short bench leagues?
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
I think we can say the Nick Foles era has really, finally begun.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Yeah I think there's a real possibility Vick has taken his last snap as an Eagle barring a Foles injury down the road. Even then its possible Barkley takes over depending on their record.
ShaHBucks
Footballguy
Chickenwang
Footballguy
After watching him against the suspect Dallas D, Foles might be the worse QB in the league. I'm glad he gets his own thread tho
You obviously didn't see his other starts. Teams like Jacksonville, Minnesota, and Cleveland would kill for this guy. You should really watch more football.
Chickenwang
Footballguy
I watched him against Tampa which is why I scooped him up. Dallas made him look like he didn't belong in the league. He's all yours.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
starting him in 1 league with Peyton on bye and Vick hurt. Wasnt much on the wire, just dont completely suck please, thanks
ShaHBucks
Footballguy
What makes you think a mediocre defense facing a QB with 101.2 QB rating and no INTs a good play? Just curious...Foles on Bench and starting the OAK DEF
Because I actually watch the games.What makes you think a mediocre defense facing a QB with 101.2 QB rating and no INTs a good play? Just curious...Foles on Bench and starting the OAK DEF
OAK has outscored KC in DEF the past 3 weeks, by the way.
And, the Eagles are absolute garbage right now, a bottom-5 team on Offense. Their OL can't block.
I doubt Coles survives the game and Barkley is a bottom-3 NFL QB when he comes in.
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ShaHBucks
Footballguy
Nice editBecause I actually watch the games.What makes you think a mediocre defense facing a QB with 101.2 QB rating and no INTs a good play? Just curious...Foles on Bench and starting the OAK DEF
OAK has outscored KC in DEF the past 3 weeks, by the way.
And, the Eagles are absolute garbage right now, a bottom-5 team on Offense.
I doubt Coles survives the game and Barkley is a bottom-3 NFL QB when he comes in.
Apologies if this has already been mentioned, but Jeffrey Lurie really threw ice water on Michael Vick's future in Philly. I own Vick (and Foles), it's destroying my roster, and I'm close to being able to pull the trigger to drop Vick after stories like this ...
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/10/31/lurie-says-finding-franchise-quarterback-is-eagles-no-1-priority/
Excerpt:
A day after Eagles coach Chip Kelly said he’s not thinking about who will be the team’s quarterback next year, the guy who signs the checks said he is.
“We need someone to step up, whether it’s an existing young quarterback or somebody we go out and acquire,” Jeffrey Lurie told Geoff Mosher of CSNPhilly.com. “We know — this is no secret — quarterback is the [ultimate] position and the most important difference-maker.”
The clear import of Lurie’s remarks? The not young quarterback on the roster,Mike Vick, won’t be back.
“We want to have very healthy, high ability at that position, with excellent leadership and a lot of smarts and a lot of moxie. Someone that really can take that position and run with it,” Lurie said.
Again, not Mike Vick.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/10/31/lurie-says-finding-franchise-quarterback-is-eagles-no-1-priority/
Excerpt:
A day after Eagles coach Chip Kelly said he’s not thinking about who will be the team’s quarterback next year, the guy who signs the checks said he is.
“We need someone to step up, whether it’s an existing young quarterback or somebody we go out and acquire,” Jeffrey Lurie told Geoff Mosher of CSNPhilly.com. “We know — this is no secret — quarterback is the [ultimate] position and the most important difference-maker.”
The clear import of Lurie’s remarks? The not young quarterback on the roster,Mike Vick, won’t be back.
“We want to have very healthy, high ability at that position, with excellent leadership and a lot of smarts and a lot of moxie. Someone that really can take that position and run with it,” Lurie said.
Again, not Mike Vick.
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bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Coles?Because I actually watch the games.What makes you think a mediocre defense facing a QB with 101.2 QB rating and no INTs a good play? Just curious...Foles on Bench and starting the OAK DEF
OAK has outscored KC in DEF the past 3 weeks, by the way.
And, the Eagles are absolute garbage right now, a bottom-5 team on Offense. Their OL can't block.
I doubt Coles survives the game and Barkley is a bottom-3 NFL QB when he comes in.
Lavernous or Bimbo?
Amused to Death
Footballguy
94 yds and a TD to start the game against Oak. Redemption week.
Insein
Footballguy
Amused to Death
Footballguy
3 TDs in 3 drives.
ShaHBucks
Footballguy
Are you watching this one bro?Because I actually watch the games.What makes you think a mediocre defense facing a QB with 101.2 QB rating and no INTs a good play? Just curious...Foles on Bench and starting the OAK DEF
OAK has outscored KC in DEF the past 3 weeks, by the way.
And, the Eagles are absolute garbage right now, a bottom-5 team on Offense. Their OL can't block.
I doubt Coles survives the game and Barkley is a bottom-3 NFL QB when he comes in.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Are you watching this one bro?Because I actually watch the games.What makes you think a mediocre defense facing a QB with 101.2 QB rating and no INTs a good play? Just curious...Foles on Bench and starting the OAK DEF
OAK has outscored KC in DEF the past 3 weeks, by the way.
And, the Eagles are absolute garbage right now, a bottom-5 team on Offense. Their OL can't block.
I doubt Coles survives the game and Barkley is a bottom-3 NFL QB when he comes in.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Ruffrodys05
IBL Representative
I'm impressed so far. Foles looks very solid.
ShaHBucks
Footballguy
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Too bad he can't play against our pathetic "defense" every week.
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