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The Nick Foles era (2 Viewers)
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babydemon90
Footballguy
After last night, sending available GM's comparison film footage of Goff and Foles in the respective Super Bowl's should be enough..
dhockster
Footballguy
Not with their current salary cap situation. They are already $12 million over the cap and franchising Nick increases that to $17 million over the cap. They only franchise him if they know they can trade him and not have his contract on the books for 2019.
Slider
Footballguy
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
If they franchise him, they would be in a very bad spot. They'd have very little leverage in a trade, as any team would know that they franchised him solely to trade him and they need to get him off the books.
I don't see them doing that, way too risky, imo.
I'm sure they'd love to make sure he doesn't wind up in the NFCE, but really, pretty hard for them to do so.
I don't see them doing that, way too risky, imo.
I'm sure they'd love to make sure he doesn't wind up in the NFCE, but really, pretty hard for them to do so.
dhockster
Footballguy
Incorrect. Only Peters is under contract for next year so the Eagles are $12 million over the cap WITHOUT Graham, Sproles, or Hicks counting against the cap.Slider said:
Peters would save $8 million. Chris Long and Jerrinagen would save another $12.5 if you cut them, but that leaves you only $3.5 million in cap space after you franchise Foles. The Eagles would have to restructure or cut more players to make it work. I just don't know if doing that is going to be worth it just to get a 1st or 2nd rounder in a trade when you will get a 3rd rounder as compensation if he exercises his $2 million option
Insein
Footballguy
Again, if Howie Roseman is doing the franchise option, he's already figured out the cap ramifications. They obviously want to trade him. Duh. If they were worried it wasn't possible, then they'd have just released him. Howie has some team in mind that's indicated interest in trading for Foles. I trust his knowledge of how it works within the cap over anybody else. I'll just sit back and wait to hear what we got and who it is from.
babydemon90
Footballguy
That's true, IF there's only one team interested. If you have more - then the Eagles get the leverage back. I don't know which teams are interested. We'll see.fantasycurse42 said:
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
risky because there might not be more than 1 team interested? That's seems highly unlikely.
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Lionsfan011
Footballguy
I think the Eagles are going to have limited trade partners that fit the criteria of a QB needy team and being a Philly preferred destination (non-NFC East teams).
- Giants - no way Philly trades Foles within the division here with all the offensive weapons the Giants have
- Redskins - can't see Foles being traded within the division here either in addition to the amount of cap space the Redskins's would have tied up in Alex Smith and Foles. Their most reasonably route is to draft a QB and use his cheap rookie contract to pair with Smith.
- Bucs - they seem committed to Winston for 2019
- Dolphins - already on the record saying they won't make any major signings this off-season to naturally bottom out and grab a QB in 2020 with a presumably top 5 pick.
- Jaguars - perfect fit for both Philly and Jacksonville. Jags will have high interest in Foles and Philly is fine with shipping him there.
- Titans - they seem committed to Mariota for 2019
- Raiders - they're fine with Carr
- Broncos - there will be interest here but how much? They can't have both Keenum and Foles on the roster. Keenum saves $11 million if he's cut but also creates $10 million is dead cap. Still doable as the cap hit on the first year of a Foles contract would be around $15 million. Net loss of roughly $5 million but they have about $40 million in cap to work with this off-season. Depends if Elway wants to be tied to Foles or desires to grab a QB high in the draft either this year or next year.
dhockster
Footballguy
Uh, okay? It sounds like you already have the opinion you want, and don't want to let any facts stand in the way of that. Which I am fine with.
babydemon90
Footballguy
For the record, I have no issues trading Foles within the division.
dhockster
Footballguy
Agree with this. A) you probably know his strengths and weaknesses better than anyone else, so you know the best way to play against him and B) Since you know his strengths and weaknesses, you have a good idea whether he will be a good fit with the team he is going to.babydemon90 said:
People thought the Eagles were crazy for trading Donovan McNabb to the Redskins. How did that work out for the Eagles?
Insein
Footballguy
Donovan was done though. He hung on for a few more years but he was cooked by the time he went to Washington. Nick still has some decent years ahead of him.
The crazy thing is that his last season in Philly was age 33. He only played 2 more years (19 games).
dhockster
Footballguy
True. And I am not advocating trading within the division. I just don't think it is something to automatically be afraid to do. Like you trusting Howie with the salary cap and franchise tag for Nick, I trust that if the Eagles do trade within the division it is because they know enough about the situation that they think they will come out on the better end of the trade.
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babydemon90
Footballguy
Jay Gruden and Pat Shurmur Don’t exactly strike fear into defensive hearts. It’ll be fine. I’d be far more worried if they got Wentz
Deamon
Footballguy
tkrull
Footballguy
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
The logic makes sense, but I think if Foles ends up in Jacksonville he's going to be miserable. It seems like a total non-fit culture/attitude wise.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
kittenmittens
Footballguy
If I owned Fournette I would be trading him so fast assuming others think this is enough of a value bump.
The Jaguars should be using their high pick on a QB even if they sign Foles. Fan pitchforks will be going crazy if Foles doesn't work out and after they pass up both Watson and Mahomes in 2017 and then don't learn from that in 2019...
Foles also isn't that good... Good luck with him succeeding in what the Jaguars seem to think is a modern offense.
The Jaguars should be using their high pick on a QB even if they sign Foles. Fan pitchforks will be going crazy if Foles doesn't work out and after they pass up both Watson and Mahomes in 2017 and then don't learn from that in 2019...
Foles also isn't that good... Good luck with him succeeding in what the Jaguars seem to think is a modern offense.
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bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Murray and haskins will be gone by their pick....so they will have to invest alot of capital to move up....
If they bring in foles...i hope they let diflillipo run his offense...if not jax will be gettin rams style foles....
Jax should trade forunette...i dont think he lasts in the league
kittenmittens
Footballguy
Rams style Foles in this offense, that's exactly what I'm worried about.
I agree that they should trade Fournette if they can get anything in return.
With Murray surging after the combine it might be too expensive to get one of the top two. Their roster is solid enough though that they should be fine giving up a mid round pick or two to get a top QB, assuming it's not more expensive than that.
I agree that they should trade Fournette if they can get anything in return.
With Murray surging after the combine it might be too expensive to get one of the top two. Their roster is solid enough though that they should be fine giving up a mid round pick or two to get a top QB, assuming it's not more expensive than that.
dhockster
Footballguy
Foles can be very good....in the right style of offense. I agree that Jacksonville does not seem to have the offense in place that is optimal for Foles.
GoBirds
Footballguy
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/kobe-bryant-eagles-fan-recalls-hilarious-interaction-with-nick-foles-140553786.html
One more reason to love this guy.
One more reason to love this guy.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
draft TJ Hock for him....oh and for god sakes get a WR in round2 and some Oline help....
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Fair amount of speculation that this is about his wife, and is serious.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Schefter was on Philly sports radio this morning. No one will tell him what's going on. He said when he asked people who would be in the know, he was told to "don't ask".
Amused to Death
Footballguy
To expand on this a little, the Jaguars organization is respecting Nick's privacy. No one will talk about it, so they basically told Schefter to stop asking about it. Nick will speak when necessary.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
A+ work by the Jags here.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Excerpt from Tori Foles' Instagram post:
As several of you knew, we were about 15 weeks pregnant with our 2nd baby. Early Sunday morning after a rough couple days fighting a “virus” of some sort, I went into sudden labor and knew something was wrong. Not long after we learned we had miscarried our baby boy. To fully labor and deliver and even see our baby boy was a pretty devastating process. Come to find that I had contracted an infection of pneumonia in the blood. The emotions go back and forth from immense and overwhelming sadness, confusion and anger to a firm belief that God has this fully in his hands and will use this for good. We cannot always understand or explain, but we know that is true.
As several of you knew, we were about 15 weeks pregnant with our 2nd baby. Early Sunday morning after a rough couple days fighting a “virus” of some sort, I went into sudden labor and knew something was wrong. Not long after we learned we had miscarried our baby boy. To fully labor and deliver and even see our baby boy was a pretty devastating process. Come to find that I had contracted an infection of pneumonia in the blood. The emotions go back and forth from immense and overwhelming sadness, confusion and anger to a firm belief that God has this fully in his hands and will use this for good. We cannot always understand or explain, but we know that is true.
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