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*** TJ Yeldon (2015 Draft Eligible) Bandwagon *** (1 Viewer)
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Footballguy
I get your point given relative number of WR vs. RBs, etc, and I'm sure you're right in that the falloff might appear like a large casm but Cooper/White/Parker all look pretty special to me.
To me, it looks like "Do I want Yeldon and Dorsett/Funchess-that type" or "do I want cooper or white or Parker and Ajayi (has fallen to the 2nd in all my drafts),Duke Johnson, David Cobb, David Johnson".
I just think the 2nd option appears better because the Rbs, for once, appear deep enough.
beef
Footballguy
I'll go yeldon, ajayi/duke.
Bob Magaw
Footballguy
Cross-posted from the Robinson thread:
If Yeldon breaks one more long run, I think he is the only RB with 1,000 rushing yards in his first three seasons in Alabama history.
I think he is underrated for a few reasons.
1) He wasn't "the man" at Alabama, but he split time with some talented other RBs, like Eddie Lacy (but Lacy in turn also split time with Yeldon, and turned out OK).
2) Didn't run a a 4.4 (but you could say that about a lot of successful RBs).
3) JAX is perceived as a weak offense destination, but will it always be so (maybe his presence will make it better).
4) Gurley and Gordon stole his thunder, as the only first round RBs since 2012 (if not for them, I think he may have been the highest drafted RB in the past three drafts, which includes some good ones, like Bell, Lacy, Hill and Bernard?).
I'm impressed with him as a runner, especially his smooth, gliding style, and effortless movement skills, COD ability and elusiveness for a RB around 225 lbs. Barring injury, imo he carves out a large role for himself.
If Yeldon breaks one more long run, I think he is the only RB with 1,000 rushing yards in his first three seasons in Alabama history.
I think he is underrated for a few reasons.
1) He wasn't "the man" at Alabama, but he split time with some talented other RBs, like Eddie Lacy (but Lacy in turn also split time with Yeldon, and turned out OK).
2) Didn't run a a 4.4 (but you could say that about a lot of successful RBs).
3) JAX is perceived as a weak offense destination, but will it always be so (maybe his presence will make it better).
4) Gurley and Gordon stole his thunder, as the only first round RBs since 2012 (if not for them, I think he may have been the highest drafted RB in the past three drafts, which includes some good ones, like Bell, Lacy, Hill and Bernard?).
I'm impressed with him as a runner, especially his smooth, gliding style, and effortless movement skills, COD ability and elusiveness for a RB around 225 lbs. Barring injury, imo he carves out a large role for himself.
VarsityBlues123
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The reviews on him are polarizing. Reminds me of Eddie Lacy in that regard. Some people love him, some dont. But he will be given every opportunity. If Jacksonville wasnt a bad team he would be talked about right there with Gordon. But sometimes it takes talent like Yeldon to make teams better. Very very young team with a ton of room to grow.
Bortles
Yeldon Robinson
Robinson Lee Hurns
Thomas
8 years of NFL experience and Thomas accounts for three of them. Thomas is the only one with more than one year experience to be factual. Give them a chance to grow.
Bortles
Yeldon Robinson
Robinson Lee Hurns
Thomas
8 years of NFL experience and Thomas accounts for three of them. Thomas is the only one with more than one year experience to be factual. Give them a chance to grow.
beef
Footballguy
agreed.
if bortles can become just an average to decent nfl starter their offense could be good. rashad greene as a slot guy to add into the mix too. the coaches have a lot of work to do, but i believe things will turn around in jax.
Madden Curse
Footballguy
I like Yeldon but I am slightly worried that this bandwagon might already be getting too much momentum.
beef
Footballguy
Highest I've seen him go was 1.05 which I can understand if the team could really use rb help. Im a huge fan of parker so it would be a tough choice, but i could easily take him over agholar or perriman. I think yeldon would have gone top 3 last year.
ConnSKINS26
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Unless that's a mandatory start-3 RB league, I think that would be an enormous mistake. And I do own Yeldon in one league, though I'm not particularly high on him.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Dead heat with Abdullah for me. I'll likely get neither.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
It comes down to their o-line which was a major part of the problem in the running and passing game last season.
Hoot&HoLLer
Footballguy
I pick 1.10 and pick 1.08 is on the clock in my 12 team ppr. My mocks have 8 and 9 being either Agholor or Parker (vice-versa). That will leave me a choice between Yeldon or Abdullah or Perriman or DBG. Frankly, I am already stacked at both WR and RB but think you can never have enough 3-down backs. My WR's are AJ Green, Demaryius Thomas, Antonio Brown, Stedman Bailiey, Davante Adams, Josh Gordon, Justin Hunter. My RB's are Jamaal Charles, Arian Foster, LeVeon Bell, Charles Sims, T-Rich, Jonathan Stewart, Devonta Freeman, and B. Powell. If for some odd reason Agholor falls, I am taking him. Otherwise, I think 1.10 is Yeldon for me.
VarsityBlues123
Footballguy
their next project. they already are working on making that defense Seattle south, much like Atlanta is trying to do. they should be a team that at least can compete in that division in the next few years.
VarsityBlues123
Footballguy
He may have a shot at ROY if he is an every down back.
beef
Footballguy
None here. I think Yeldon has a tremendous opportunity and the skill set to go with it to be a legit #1 rb.
Zyphros
Footballguy
Fluff or no fluff, shouldn't really change your opinion on a rookie if you liked them to begin with. It's the dumb part of the year for fantasy that even reading tea leaves is sometimes counter-productive.
kwille
Footballguy
Its Jacksonville ... the beat reporters haven't had a target to heap praise on for awhile. They probably forgot how to do it.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Shutout
Footballguy
I can't wait to see how this shakes out in fantasy. Across several league drafts, I saw and heard a lot of people anguishing over that group of players that included Yeldon, Agholor, Perriman, Dorsett, and a guy here or there and it seems like somewhere in that half a dozen picks or so outside the top 6, this is where the separation of winners and losers in the draft are going to shake out.
I own Yeldon in a league. I passed on him in another. My gut says Jax won't be good enough to make him a consistently reliable fantasy option. There will be good efforts, I'm sure, and he will look good doing it but I think there will also be those 14/52 type of clunkers that will hurt fantasy teams because the perception is to rely on him as a RB2 and, who knows, you may end up with a RB1. But the reality will probably be you get that here or there but have a lot of days where he is a rb3, at best.
I own Yeldon in a league. I passed on him in another. My gut says Jax won't be good enough to make him a consistently reliable fantasy option. There will be good efforts, I'm sure, and he will look good doing it but I think there will also be those 14/52 type of clunkers that will hurt fantasy teams because the perception is to rely on him as a RB2 and, who knows, you may end up with a RB1. But the reality will probably be you get that here or there but have a lot of days where he is a rb3, at best.
Banger
Footballguy
so much of a RBs value is based on game script and playing with the lead/in close games. Teams that get blown out or can't sustain drives are going to have more inconsistent results. The one saving grace is if he's going to be their 3 down back and catch the ball from the backfield.
Warpig
Footballguy
While he certainly COULD be their 3 down back...last I heard was Robinson is still very much in the picture on 3rd downs. Gerhart is a very good receiver too. Still very possible this is a rotational type of thing especially if the Jags struggle again as expected.
As a Jags fan, I was torn in a recent draft I just completed. I had the 1.04 pick and was willing to take Yeldon there. However, Gurley fell to me. I still tried to talk myself out of taking Gurley and go for the homer pick since everything I've heard about Yeldon has been positive. But I just can't trust the Jags to be competitive and also, NOT use a full blown RBBC.
My gut tells me to rank Yeldon a smidge below Abdullah. While I was contemplating taking Yeldon at 1.04, I was also looking into Abdullah pretty aggressively. And to be honest, I think Abdullah has less competition...especially if Bell isn't 100% healthy. And I think Abdullah can be golden in that Detroit offense.
Sweetness_34
Footballguy
I love how rotoworld thinks just because he has a shot at volume, he is a RB2....everyone conveniently forgets that if he is not productive, they will either bench him or go full blown RBBC and reduce the # of rushing attempts....all normal things that happen to bad teams. Last year Gerhart was supposed to be a lock at RB2 just because he had no competition.....how did that turn out? Opportunity is a good thing but the fact that he is not proven is where the risk is
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
"Supposed to be" and "lock" are vast exaggerations here. Gerhart's ADP was in the 5th round last year, whereas supposed "lock" RB2's like Alfred Morris had an ADP at the end of the 2nd/early 3rd round.
Like Gerhart, Yeldon has the opportunity to be a solid RBs, and enough opportunity to even exceed that if he's actually a good player. Obviously he still has to take hold of that volume opportunity, but getting that opportunity in the first place gives him a nice head start.
It's not like people are talking about taking him over Eddie Lacy. The guys coming in just behind Yeldon in redraft ADP are guys like Ellington, Coleman, and Crowell who not only have their own questions about talent, but have far more questions about opportunity as well.
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ILUVBEER99
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yep, saying Yeldon is a RB2 isn't saying much. Most of the guys in that 15-25 range are all wildcards, Yeldons odds are as good or better than most of them.
15 RB Frank Gore, IND
16 RB Mark Ingram, NO
17 RB Melvin Gordon, SD
18 RB Carlos Hyde,
19 RB Jonathan Stewart, CAR
20 RB Todd Gurley, STL
21 RB T.J. Yeldon, JAX
22 RB Latavius Murray, OAK
23 RB Andre Ellington, ARI
24 RB C.J. Spiller, NO
25 RB Giovani Bernard, CIN
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Footballguy
Sure they do. All players have an off day. But it is easy to get my point. He's going to be drafted high enough to indicate people are expecting more and I consider him a risk due to the abilities of the Jaguars. That is all.
Shutout
Footballguy
I think one of the other things we see a lot and don't put much thought into is, to a degree, all rookies coming into the league that are expected to play early always get the kind of buzz we are hearing. We really haven't heard (and haven't seen anything yet). We hear that RBs are "capable of being a 3 down back". We hear that Wrs are "lining up all over the formations". We hear that Qbs "are making all the throws". Its just what teams do and say to kick the tires on players and see what they might actually be able to contribute but it doesn't always translate.Warpig said:
werdnoynek
Footballguy
I just don't see how Jacksonville would stay the same stagnant offense as last year. They're a young, up and coming team. They have a young and talented QB (who should improve), a solid receiving core, and a revamped (though still somewhat questionable) OL, and Yeldon. Joeckel should only get better and they brought in Parnell to fill the void that was the RT last season... he was more than capable for Dallas when Free when down last year. Coupled with the defense that was pretty solid last season, I can see them being much more competitive and able this season to stay in games.
I find it funny that people expect teams to be the same as they were in the season before or in the past. The NFL is fluid and ever-changing. Bad teams don't stay bad forever. It takes some longer than others to get out of the mud but they usual do. Caldwell is an intelligent GM. He's been building a solid core for this team and they can only get better.
I've said all I have to say on Yeldon. I love the situation and love his talent. I'm excited to see what this season brings, but even more excited for the future. In dynasty I'm all over him. Redraft, I'll take him late, but certainly not reaching.
I find it funny that people expect teams to be the same as they were in the season before or in the past. The NFL is fluid and ever-changing. Bad teams don't stay bad forever. It takes some longer than others to get out of the mud but they usual do. Caldwell is an intelligent GM. He's been building a solid core for this team and they can only get better.
I've said all I have to say on Yeldon. I love the situation and love his talent. I'm excited to see what this season brings, but even more excited for the future. In dynasty I'm all over him. Redraft, I'll take him late, but certainly not reaching.
Mr. Brownstone
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Chaka
Footballguy
Different isn't necessarily better. Greg Olson is the new Jags offensive coordinator.
Shutout
Footballguy
Even as a Yeldon owner, I just don't see it. Yes, the NFL is a fluid and ever-changing league but there are certain teams that are well-known to have not had any fluid for a decade and JAX is just one of those teams. Picking at the top of the draft each and every year doesn't guarantee anything and young, talented players don't always work out. You listed about 6-7 "should happens" and we rarely see every star line up, even for good teams.
Yes the Jags can change but the other 31 teams are changing too and when you are the Jags and Brown and Rams and Raiders, etc, you can make waves, but there are differences between making waves and becoming the fantasy friendly supporting teams we are used to. For Yeldon to be what some people are saying, the Jags will have to be good enough to dictate games, consistently, week in and week out and I just don't think they are there yet. Just one guy's opinion.
Mortimer Ichabod
Footballguy
I want to see some reports that he looks good running the ball. While being a great blocker will keep him on the field for more downs, it doesn't really matter if he can't run it. He's a player I'm really looking forward to seeing in games. FWIW, the fans who are in training camp seem to think he is clearly the best RB on the team.
