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Trying to time bottoms is very hard. If you believe in the company long term I feel this price is a very strong entry point long term. Set it and forget for a while. When it doubles....take your

I will make a wager. If this stock hits $420.69 before this earnings call on March 31st, I will pass out 100 FBG subscriptions to the gents in the stock thread.

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10 minutes ago, Pigskin Fanatic said:

i think it was @cosjobs constantly mentioning it so picked up a few during the bottom last week. thank you both. is this a hodl? or trade?

It's a lottery ticket with a some very unsavory characteristics, such as losing a lot of money in a hurry for its investors.  But, hope springs eternal and something was definitely afoot at the Circle K today in this thing....

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9 minutes ago, FreeBaGeL said:

That's my fault I last got out around $500 and finally decided to get back in about a week ago.

Next time tell us so we can sell.  

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39 minutes ago, beef said:

Am I the only one that has been big on banks and oil?  Some of my best days seem to be downers here.  Feels lonely... 

I'm not with you on the banks but my wife has a healthy amount of oil in her Roth that I got in August that just unreal dividends compared to what they cost me. A lot of it is BP and Shell which are committed to transitioning to more green tech so I'm hanging on to them. 

ETA: Vanguard says I bought them in September and October actually. Their memory is probably better than mine lol. 

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On 2/19/2021 at 11:50 AM, rick6668 said:
On 2/17/2021 at 10:00 AM, JAA said:

AGTC seems to be a winner. I would encourage you to take a look. 

Any reason to keep holding this?  I'm down 18% in a few days.

All that I have read is that its a winner.  I dont have any special knowledge except that I like the stock.  If you were looking for a quick win, feel free to drop.  Im holding long.

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20 hours ago, drunken slob said:

Yes, I'm sloshed, but here's a question.

Caught a summary of the Congressional bill for CV-19 relief. Saw that several million will be available to venue operators that had been shut down. 

$AMC would fall under this category. Closed Friday @ $5.70

AMC up20% 

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10 minutes ago, McBokonon said:

7.5% here in my accounts. Schwab is jacked so I can’t see my girlfriend’s but it wasn’t nearly as bad.

Pissing me off, trying to move some money around. Wtf is wrong with them. 

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53 minutes ago, General Malaise said:

It's a lottery ticket with a some very unsavory characteristics, such as losing a lot of money in a hurry for its investors.  But, hope springs eternal and something was definitely afoot at the Circle K today in this thing....

Soooooo....... a lottery ticket 

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2 hours ago, General Malaise said:

Anyone?  

Is it better to be a miner than a holder?  God, I feel like my grandfather when I tried to explain email to him.

Just the way the small cap crypto mining related stocks play. I thought dmggf has been grossly undervalued for awhile now.

 

Hutmf was another mining stock that was up today.

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2 hours ago, beef said:

Am I the only one that has been big on banks and oil?  Some of my best days seem to be downers here.  Feels lonely... 

Boring!

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2 hours ago, beef said:

Am I the only one that has been big on banks and oil?  Some of my best days seem to be downers here.  Feels lonely... 

Bought a chunk of WFC after drop a few weeks back. Fell further from $32.50 to $30. Stared at the screen and tried to talk myself into more. Moment passed and we're at $37+ today. I'm buying into the turnaround. Heard a report extolling the strong leadership and the Feds are likely to lift the punitive asset cap soon. I'm optimistic.

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4 minutes ago, DEADHEAD said:

Bought a chunk of WFC after drop a few weeks back. Fell further from $32.50 to $30. Stared at the screen and tried to talk myself into more. Moment passed and we're at $37+ today. I'm buying into the turnaround. Heard a report extolling the strong leadership and the Feds are likely to lift the punitive asset cap soon. I'm optimistic.

Oh and BAC is hitting 52 week highs.

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17 minutes ago, TripItUp said:

CCIV up to 25% down after announcement.   :lmao:

 

I bought a lot more at 46.   :shark:

This is why:

The transaction includes an approximately $2.1 billion cash contribution by CCIV and a $2.5 billion, fully committed PIPE with an investor lock-up provision that binds holders well beyond closing. The PIPE is priced at $15.00 per share (a 50% premium to CCIV's net asset value) with an implied pro forma equity value of $24 billion.

At $60, the implied equity value is $72B. The merger was done for a third of that.

17% of the company was sold at $10 a share and 15% of the company was sold at $15 a share and all the shareholders right now probably paid an average of $50 a share. Hard to HODL when you see 15% of the company go for $15 a share. It will be interesting to see where it goes from here.

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4 minutes ago, stbugs said:

This is why:

The transaction includes an approximately $2.1 billion cash contribution by CCIV and a $2.5 billion, fully committed PIPE with an investor lock-up provision that binds holders well beyond closing. The PIPE is priced at $15.00 per share (a 50% premium to CCIV's net asset value) with an implied pro forma equity value of $24 billion.

At $60, the implied equity value is $72B. The merger was done for a third of that.

17% of the company was sold at $10 a share and 10% of the company was sold at $15 a share and all the shareholders right now probably paid an average of $50 a share. Hard to HODL when you see 10% of the company go for $15 a share. It will be interesting to see where it goes from here.

And that's why I'm going to just start selling on the pop. Only ACTC has maintained value for me and even that has dropped a bit. 

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29 minutes ago, hooter311 said:

Just the way the small cap crypto mining related stocks play. I thought dmggf has been grossly undervalued for awhile now.

 

Hutmf was another mining stock that was up today.

See any mining stocks that haven't quite popped yet? I've been kicking myself for not pulling the trigger on a few (HSSHF, HVBTF, and ARBKF (Sold too soon)

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On 2/19/2021 at 11:25 AM, Sand said:

No such thing.  Most days aren't headline driven and are essentially Brownian noise on top of a line with a slight upward slope.

I'm sure everyone here is more advanced than me, but there is such a thing and I just found it.

Marketwatch Snapshot

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17 minutes ago, stbugs said:

 

17% of the company was sold at $10 a share and 15% of the company was sold at $15 a share and all the shareholders right now probably paid an average of $50 a share. Hard to HODL when you see 15% of the company go for $15 a share. It will be interesting to see where it goes from here.

This is pretty standard for pipe deals(investors wouldn't invest otherwise) and those prices are never available to retail investors.  I guess we have to see what the lockup is.

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16 minutes ago, EYLive said:

I'm sure everyone here is more advanced than me, but there is such a thing and I just found it.

Marketwatch Snapshot

They fill in the blanks as to why stocks went down or up.  Most of the time it's just noise.  Today it's inflation fears, tomorrow it will be China.   Noise.

The days that the market tanks because Lehman just went bankrupt, signaling a possible lockup of the monetary system - yeah, that's headline driven.  

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44 minutes ago, DEADHEAD said:

Bought a chunk of WFC after drop a few weeks back. Fell further from $32.50 to $30. Stared at the screen and tried to talk myself into more. Moment passed and we're at $37+ today. I'm buying into the turnaround. Heard a report extolling the strong leadership and the Feds are likely to lift the punitive asset cap soon. I'm optimistic.

I bought some 2 weeks ago, do we add more or ride it out with what we got?

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34 minutes ago, John Kreese said:

See any mining stocks that haven't quite popped yet? I've been kicking myself for not pulling the trigger on a few (HSSHF, HVBTF, and ARBKF (Sold too soon)

I was gonna convert some of my Mara to more hutmf at open and then the bloodbath happened.  I like hvbtf of the ones you mentioned. 

Ethereum miner.

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1 hour ago, stbugs said:

This is why:

The transaction includes an approximately $2.1 billion cash contribution by CCIV and a $2.5 billion, fully committed PIPE with an investor lock-up provision that binds holders well beyond closing. The PIPE is priced at $15.00 per share (a 50% premium to CCIV's net asset value) with an implied pro forma equity value of $24 billion.

At $60, the implied equity value is $72B. The merger was done for a third of that.

17% of the company was sold at $10 a share and 15% of the company was sold at $15 a share and all the shareholders right now probably paid an average of $50 a share. Hard to HODL when you see 15% of the company go for $15 a share. It will be interesting to see where it goes from here.

Yup, but if you're in it, you hold at this point, no?  I mean even if it drops to the low 40s tomorrow, I'm still easily in the green. 

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40 minutes ago, GoBirds said:

I bought some 2 weeks ago, do we add more or ride it out with what we got?

I'm spreading some $ across PLTR and EXC and maybe some SFTW. I've got 2,000 shares of WFC in my non-retirement account. Not sure I want more than that but...???

I need to put in a stop limit.

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1 hour ago, stbugs said:

This is why:

The transaction includes an approximately $2.1 billion cash contribution by CCIV and a $2.5 billion, fully committed PIPE with an investor lock-up provision that binds holders well beyond closing. The PIPE is priced at $15.00 per share (a 50% premium to CCIV's net asset value) with an implied pro forma equity value of $24 billion.

At $60, the implied equity value is $72B. The merger was done for a third of that.

17% of the company was sold at $10 a share and 15% of the company was sold at $15 a share and all the shareholders right now probably paid an average of $50 a share. Hard to HODL when you see 15% of the company go for $15 a share. It will be interesting to see where it goes from here.

I guess Lucid announced some production delays to boot. All happened during the 6-8 pm timeframe when Robinhood users are locked out of AH trading. Brutal.

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37 minutes ago, DEADHEAD said:

I'm spreading some $ across PLTR and EXC and maybe some SFTW. I've got 2,000 shares of WFC in my non-retirement account. Not sure I want more than that but...???

I need to put in a stop limit.

Whoa, you got me by 1,850 shares. :lmao:

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1 hour ago, TripItUp said:

This is pretty standard for pipe deals(investors wouldn't invest otherwise) and those prices are never available to retail investors.  I guess we have to see what the lockup is.

The difference is that before the last month or so, the premium pre-merger was 10-15% then it became 30-50%. CCIV’s premium pre-merger was 500%. That’s ludicrous speed.

Just to put the current price into perspective. Tesla did not reach the market cap implied by CCIV’s market cap at $60 ($72B) until December 2019. That’s right, 7 years after they started delivering cars, Tesla was finally worth what Lucid is worth without delivering a single car. I know that “things have changed” but that market cap is very large for a company that hasn’t even begun to have any types of issues. I know he’s an ex-Tesla guy so they’ll get everything right from the start but there’s a #### ton of competition as well. That’s why they implied market cap of the merger was far less than the stock price implied. Tesla didn’t hit over 100k deliveries in a year as the only EV around until it had the Model 3. It doesn’t look like Lucid will have a sub $77k car until years from now. There will be a lot more competition by then who have a lot more manufacturing experience.

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32 minutes ago, caustic said:

I guess Lucid announced some production delays to boot. All happened during the 6-8 pm timeframe when Robinhood users are locked out of AH trading. Brutal.

Ugh, that’s a big issue. There’s a lot of that “perfection” built into a lot these SPAC projections. Production delays with 0 cars actually being delivered is scary when there is a huge gold rush going on right now to catch Tesla by a bunch of companies with better supply chains and manufacturing capabilities.

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9 minutes ago, stbugs said:

The difference is that before the last month or so, the premium pre-merger was 10-15% then it became 30-50%. CCIV’s premium pre-merger was 500%. That’s ludicrous speed.

Lucid being owned by the Saudis and the massive rumors for a long time also played into this. Pre-DA SPACs are always speculative in nature and you really have to be careful about paying significantly more than NAV. Each SPAC is different and a successful DA/merger will dilute you.

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10 minutes ago, Swaymoney said:

Okay, so what does this all mean for CCIV longterm?  Is this a stock that will eventually take off or just drop from here?

The deal has them valued around $25B right near XPEV (a holding of mine). Here is a good compare to think about.

Every time I look at that automaker market cap chart I feel like GM and F are being undervalued. But I never invest in them. :shrug:

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1 minute ago, 2Squirrels1Nut said:

My kids play this and always the they were saying road blocks.  I deduced it was a driving game where players threw up road blocks. 

:bag:

Surprised you didnt say they have been asking for ROBUCKS to play with.  spoke with a few parents and they have to buy ROBUCKS for their kids fairly often I guess.

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4 minutes ago, KGB said:

Surprised you didnt say they have been asking for ROBUCKS to play with.  spoke with a few parents and they have to buy ROBUCKS for their kids fairly often I guess.

Have to avoid going down that road. I'll be looking to buy in on some Roblox.

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3 minutes ago, Swaymoney said:

Have to avoid going down that road. I'll be looking to buy in on some Roblox.

Im thinking 25% of what I want on IPO day and see from there.

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12 minutes ago, KGB said:

Im thinking 25% of what I want on IPO day and see from there.

Wonder what the cost per share will be?

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14 hours ago, Capella said:

So what’s the latest on Hgen, @wyatt  - I’ve accumulated a fair share in the past month. May sell some cydy today and buy more. 

#not selling / #long and strong / 🤣

I’m still very optimistic. Despite all the hot takes, there is and will be an unmet medical need for hospitalized Covid patients for the foreseeable future. Pending trial success, results due in March, US gov. will buy in the order of $1 billion over the next year making Lenz one of the most successful launches in pharma history. Ex-US will add to this. Trial success provides proof of concept for the drug’s original indication, calming cytokine storm seen in cancer therapy. Im quite sure Hgen will eventually be bought out at a massive premium to today’s price.

Non-revenue biotech investing will test your mettle, maybe we all should just buy Bitcoin instead.

Have I mentioned I might have some insight on potential Covid treatments?

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46 minutes ago, Whyatt said:

#not selling / #long and strong / 🤣

I’m still very optimistic. Despite all the hot takes, there is and will be an unmet medical need for hospitalized Covid patients for the foreseeable future. Pending trial success, results due in March, US gov. will buy in the order of $1 billion over the next year making Lenz one of the most successful launches in pharma history. Ex-US will add to this. Trial success provides proof of concept for the drug’s original indication, calming cytokine storm seen in cancer therapy. Im quite sure Hgen will eventually be bought out at a massive premium to today’s price.

Non-revenue biotech investing will test your mettle, maybe we all should just buy Bitcoin instead.

Have I mentioned I might have some insight on potential Covid treatments?

Sounds good. So what’s your share price if/when they get that 1 bullion order and then when they get bought out? 
 

 

 

I have a big Bitcoin order when this money moves over. :scared: 

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