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I need to listen to you guys more.  Many of you were talking about Apple.  I was 100% invested heading into the day, but I certainly could have trimmed something to buy some this morning.  

 
Fiddlesticks!

Closed +26% on the week.

10.15 to 12.82

My timeline prediction was a little accelerated but we are still headed to the same place or better.  

Double digits gains on the horizon for next week as well, can hardly wait to spend the weekend hitting refresh on the btc ticker a zillion times...
I bought some of this on your recommendation early this week.

Thank you sir.

 
Baseball news couldn’t hit during market hours. Guess NBA and NHL will be fine but NFL seems highly at risk unless they invoke a bubble. Sports betting stocks go down. 

 
Today I was gobbling up graystone's ethereum trust (ethe) at anything less than $100.

I want as far away from the dollar as possible for at least the next 18 months.
Closing in on a double on the ETH I’m holding on robinhood. The ETH held on Uphold, on the other hand, probably only down like 60%. 

 
Closing in on a double on the ETH I’m holding on robinhood. The ETH held on Uphold, on the other hand, probably only down like 60%. 
We're in luck....stonks always go up!

I have a mountain to learn about eth, but it does seem to be the future of "contracts".......holding straight eth is a way better idea than what I'm doing currently with ethe.  I'm just limited to my current tax advantaged accounts.

 
Baseball news couldn’t hit during market hours. Guess NBA and NHL will be fine but NFL seems highly at risk unless they invoke a bubble. Sports betting stocks go down. 
Man I thought the same thing when I saw the news. PENN was already getting crushed because of the other positive tests but if baseball gets canceled they will plummet. 

 
You may want to check out the CYDY thread. 
Mostly likely you are trying to spare me some humiliation, but please allow me to be aloof a moment more:

If there's one market segment I've always lost money on, it's biotech.

Maybe I'm a bit too optimistic for my own good when it comes to "the next best thing."

 
Mostly likely you are trying to spare me some humiliation, but please allow me to be aloof a moment more:

If there's one market segment I've always lost money on, it's biotech.

Maybe I'm a bit too optimistic for my own good when it comes to "the next best thing."
Are you better with hooters?

 
Today I was gobbling up graystone's ethereum trust (ethe) at anything less than $100.

I want as far away from the dollar as possible for at least the next 18 months.
Oh wow.  I'm very optimistic about Monday morning at this rate for ETHE.  Immediate double digit  % gains?

The money flowing into crypto derivative markets right now is mind boggling.  I wish I was smart enough to play in those sandboxes, but sadly I'm not.

Buy a crypto, any crypto...gift wrap it to yourself and put a sell order in before Christmas......because this year has been tough and you deserve to end it out on some good news.

 
Mostly likely you are trying to spare me some humiliation, but please allow me to be aloof a moment more:

If there's one market segment I've always lost money on, it's biotech.

Maybe I'm a bit too optimistic for my own good when it comes to "the next best thing."
I'm not entirely sure how we're defining biotech, but SBIO (medical breakthroughs) has done alright. Not apple / Tesla / Sea limited by any stretch but it hasn't lost money for me. 

In this industry I'm taking the ETF over individual companies.

 
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My (very small) brokerage account is 45% AAPL. Today was a good day. :)  
I have an old brokerage account through someone that’s ended up over 50% AAPL.....why rebalance selling this rocket ship when it’s the others in that portfolio that’s sputtered? I’m adding more that I won’t plan to sell for decades, leave it for my kids. 

 
Man I thought the same thing when I saw the news. PENN was already getting crushed because of the other positive tests but if baseball gets canceled they will plummet. 
I'll wait till the first wave of bad news about football (hopefully college), or start picking it up as it gets closer to 25....  But Penn's app is supposed to debut this fall and is gonna have some big momentum.  The brick and mortar casinos managed to pull in over a billion domestic q1 so they are way ahead of draftkings there.  When it happened I didn't imagine the barstool deal would seem cheap but it certainly was.  Current prices value Penn just over 4.5 billion while draftkings is sitting closer to 10 billion market cap.  I can't help but think that this race gets closer in the next 3 years and even if it doesn't, I still think you'll be happy with your horse.

 
I'll wait till the first wave of bad news about football (hopefully college), or start picking it up as it gets closer to 25....  But Penn's app is supposed to debut this fall and is gonna have some big momentum.  The brick and mortar casinos managed to pull in over a billion domestic q1 so they are way ahead of draftkings there.  When it happened I didn't imagine the barstool deal would seem cheap but it certainly was.  Current prices value Penn just over 4.5 billion while draftkings is sitting closer to 10 billion market cap.  I can't help but think that this race gets closer in the next 3 years and even if it doesn't, I still think you'll be happy with your horse.
@sporthenry and I have talked about PENN a lot in here. They’re a mess. Tons of debt and very expensive leases on a lot of their properties. There is also a TON of competition in this space. Why DKNG or PENN over FanDuel, MGM, William Hill, etc? Every casino company is going to have an app. 
 

I am also hoping for a drop to 25-26 but for different reasons lol. 

 
Holy cow when did you buy? How’s retirement treating you?
Bought in 2008, I think, at $100 at the time.  It went down to $80 and I balked at doubling down.  :bag: They have now split 14-1 going back to that point (so actually maybe $7 a share now).  It's a decent pile at this point but, sadly, not nearly enough.

 
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Bought in 2008, I think, at $100 at the time.  It went down to $80 and I balked at doubling down.  :bag: They have now split 14-1 going back to that point (so actually maybe $7 a share now).  It's a decent pile at this point but, sadly, not nearly enough.
Damn. 

 
I'm not entirely sure how we're defining biotech, but SBIO (medical breakthroughs) has done alright. Not apple / Tesla / Sea limited by any stretch but it hasn't lost money for me. 

In this industry I'm taking the ETF over individual companies.
I think if ever there was a time to be in individual biotech companies it's right now.  Not necessarily for the long term hold, but wait for any of them to drop some news then sell on the rip.

I'm long a few thousand shares of $VSTM right now.  Only a buck thirty five a share right now after bad earnings.  Meanwhile they just filed on their COVID phase 2 study a few days ago but unlike our other favorite 4-letter stock these guys don't care about pumping at all so they didn't even release a PR around it and the stock price hasn't moved at all yet.  All it takes is some company picking up that news or heaven forbid a shred of good news out of the trial and it could easily be the next bio 7-10 bagger in a day.  I'd put the max risk at about 50% loss on the investment.

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04487886

 
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@sporthenry and I have talked about PENN a lot in here. They’re a mess. Tons of debt and very expensive leases on a lot of their properties. There is also a TON of competition in this space. Why DKNG or PENN over FanDuel, MGM, William Hill, etc? Every casino company is going to have an app. 
 

I am also hoping for a drop to 25-26 but for different reasons lol. 
I don't see anyone catching up with draftking's momentum anytime soon and that margin could increase dramatically with their new pga partnership.  Golf bettors have the largest avg bet size in sports and people will stay where they already are unless given a heck of a good reason to leave.  It's not that unrealistic to think that professional golf is the highest bet sport as early as 2021 with plenty of external help.  

For me, logging on to draftkings kind of feels similar to poker stars back in the day.

And with Penn, the disposable income that follows barstool will always be underestimated.  Young men with disposable income worship the brand.

 
I don't see anyone catching up with draftking's momentum anytime soon and that margin could increase dramatically with their new pga partnership.  Golf bettors have the largest avg bet size in sports and people will stay where they already are unless given a heck of a good reason to leave.  It's not that unrealistic to think that professional golf is the highest bet sport as early as 2021 with plenty of external help.  

For me, logging on to draftkings kind of feels similar to poker stars back in the day.

And with Penn, the disposable income that follows barstool will always be underestimated.  Young men with disposable income worship the brand.
You don’t think there’s crossover among customers of Draft Kings, Barstool, MGM, William Hill, etc?

Again, PENN may have finally done something smart with buying Barstool but their debt and physical casino leases are going to be a drag on their books. 
 

Plus, as we saw during the poker boom, more competition is going to push profits down. 

 
You don’t think there’s crossover among customers of Draft Kings, Barstool, MGM, William Hill, etc?

Again, PENN may have finally done something smart with buying Barstool but their debt and physical casino leases are going to be a drag on their books. 
 

Plus, as we saw during the poker boom, more competition is going to push profits down. 
Fair technical analysis, I just think everyone's fundamentals are whack.

And I 100% disagree that the poker boom brought profits down for the top of the food pyramid.  People are going to gravitate towards the largest player pools and those pools are going to grow faster as players get comfortable and start to refer their friends.

It's the ol' 80/20 rule in business.  The the top 20% are going to control 80% of the market and I see draftkings and Penn controlling a majority of that 20% when the dust settles.  Partly from product and presentation and partly from being the first boots on the ground.

 
Fair technical analysis, I just think everyone's fundamentals are whack.

And I 100% disagree that the poker boom brought profits down for the top of the food pyramid.  People are going to gravitate towards the largest player pools and those pools are going to grow faster as players get comfortable and start to refer their friends.

It's the ol' 80/20 rule in business.  The the top 20% are going to control 80% of the market and I see draftkings and Penn controlling a majority of that 20% when the dust settles.  Partly from product and presentation and partly from being the first boots on the ground.
But that’s the thing, PENN doesn’t even have an app yet. They are WAY behind their competition. 
 

And yes, profits certainly dropped for online poker rooms as they started offering deposit bonuses and rakeback to attract players. 
 

I am bullish on sports betting and the casino industry as a whole, just not PENN (or MGM).

 
How do you plan to play this bullishness?
Well long term in the casino industry I like Wynn. On the sports betting side I'm not entirely sure of a specific company so I'd probably look to buy an ETF like BETZ. Deciding when to start averaging in is going to be the hard part though...

 
If I want to put $5,000 in AAPL, is it better to buy now now or after the split?


If you're building a long-term position, don't time it. Just buy it. Maybe split it up by thirds or whatever. Check back the last few pages.
I agree with McBokonon after costing my self a couple percentage points waiting for a pull back on Friday.  I was waiting for a pull back and then ultimately purchased shares ~2% higher than I could have had I just bought immediately.  @caustic said waiting for AAPL to pull back has rarely worked for him and that proved to be true on Friday.  Based on my (limited) experience with AAPL I would DCA into the position with either 2 or 3 lots over the next week or so.

 
Well long term in the casino industry I like Wynn. On the sports betting side I'm not entirely sure of a specific company so I'd probably look to buy an ETF like BETZ. Deciding when to start averaging in is going to be the hard part though...
But why would anyone need or want to go to Vegas anymore?  I've already been going up to my room to sit and bet on my phone for half a decade.

Not saying you're wrong or even claiming that I'm right.....Winn just seems 10x riskier than draftkings from my perspective.  I don't want to be counting on our normal returning in a parabolic shift.

Draftking's is the best at what they do.  They have singlehandedly created 10s of thousands of golf fans alone the last few years and night might end up being counted on almost single handedly if all our home season leagues go up in smoke or half the league gets shut down or whatever.  Draftkings is making millionaires daily but I would be very surprised if most guys that do win big actually manage to get a majority of the money off the site.

The online industry alone in this country we are talking close to a $100 billion annual untapped market up for grabs if were to go nationwide.

Gambling and recreational marijuana are going to be the only avenues states have to getting back in the green. 

We literally printed enough $100 bills last month alone to stack them standing up from coast to coast.  

I'm terrified for the us $ over the next 18 months...

 
JAMF ipo'd last week.  They are a local company and I personally know and admire some of the brains behind the scenes from my college days.  They do a lot of security applications for apple products and currently have all 10 of largest us banks, the feds, and some of the larger non-profits on board as customers.

I'm not like through the roof bullish on it, but I do think they are 100% solid and here to stay.  If my crypto idea goes to Hades in a hand basket that's gonna be one of the first places I look to preserve my wealth.

 
But why would anyone need or want to go to Vegas anymore?  I've already been going up to my room to sit and bet on my phone for half a decade.

Not saying you're wrong or even claiming that I'm right.....Winn just seems 10x riskier than draftkings from my perspective.  I don't want to be counting on our normal returning in a parabolic shift.

Draftking's is the best at what they do.  They have singlehandedly created 10s of thousands of golf fans alone the last few years and night might end up being counted on almost single handedly if all our home season leagues go up in smoke or half the league gets shut down or whatever.  Draftkings is making millionaires daily but I would be very surprised if most guys that do win big actually manage to get a majority of the money off the site.

The online industry alone in this country we are talking close to a $100 billion annual untapped market up for grabs if were to go nationwide.

Gambling and recreational marijuana are going to be the only avenues states have to getting back in the green. 

We literally printed enough $100 bills last month alone to stack them standing up from coast to coast.  

I'm terrified for the us $ over the next 18 months...
I'm not bullish on Wynn for the sports betting, it's for the casino industry as a whole. They have a great reputation, are handling covid better than anyone else and are diversified across Vegas, Boston and Macau. I also like LVS but they are so dependant on the convention industry in Vegas. Big fan of Boyd too but worried about the unemployment rate in Vegas crushing their local clientele over the next couple of years. 

I like DraftKings but still wouldn't bet on just one sports betting company, I'd prefer BETZ which also gives exposure to esports, other markets and the companies providing the software to a lot of players in the industry. Same reason why most of my 401k is in the S&P fund and not just Amazon. Diversification baby!

 
Speaking of losing money...do you guys think all the strippers moved to Texas too?

Or are they all finishing their degrees finally?

 
Sorry for maybe a redundant question on dividends, but let's look at T for a specific example.  

How and when do you know if you get the dividend?  If you own for 2 weeks do you get the entire dividend for the quarter(or however they pay it out)?  Or do you get a percentage based on how long you owned the stock?  

 
Sorry for maybe a redundant question on dividends, but let's look at T for a specific example.  

How and when do you know if you get the dividend?  If you own for 2 weeks do you get the entire dividend for the quarter(or however they pay it out)?  Or do you get a percentage based on how long you owned the stock?  
They declare an Ex-dividend date. If you're a shareholder of record that date, then you will receive the dividend the day it is paid. If you sell the day before, even if you held the entire remainder of the quarter, you get no dividend.

 
Sorry for maybe a redundant question on dividends, but let's look at T for a specific example.  

How and when do you know if you get the dividend?  If you own for 2 weeks do you get the entire dividend for the quarter(or however they pay it out)?  Or do you get a percentage based on how long you owned the stock?  
What Bob said and it doesn't matter how long you owned it

 
What date?  The date they announce it or the date they pay out the dividend?  
The Ex-dividend date. I believe for V right now that is 8-13-20.

ETA: Sorry, you said T. Not V. Looks like T was July 9. Pretty soon they should announce a new ex-div date for next quarter's payment.

 
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