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4 minutes ago, steelcityman said:

Texans should trade for melvin gordon.  Get a real RB in there, push all chips in and go for it.  Clowney and a high pick for gordon.   🤷🏻‍♂️

they do have an insane need at RB right now but whats the point of going for Gordon with that trash line

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2 hours ago, ffmail4me said:

They should trade for AP tonight. AP won't be happy losing carries to Guice (who is clearly going to be the guy) and AP would love to come back home. Just makes a lot of sense for both teams. 

AP and his good buddy Silverback Williams

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19 hours ago, joeschmo said:

He'd beat out Crockett, but has no chance against Tubbs.

That's only because Crockett blew his knee out before his junior year.  He scored a 92 yard touchdown with 6 seconds left to beat Alabama and also scored the winning touchdown in the Gator Bowl which netted him the game ball.  He then transferred to the Southeast Asia Conference i.e. Viet Nam.   https://miamivice.fandom.com/wiki/James_"Sonny"_Crockett

 

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Interesting signing...could mean nothing could mean a lot...they lost Bolden so there was an opening but he is more of a special teams guy and Miller is not...Michel is on the PUP with a foot issue and no one has any clue what they think of Harris...the one definite is White and gotta believe Burkhead is safe for another year after restructuring but he is by no means an ironman...the Pats backfield is usually one to avoid and this only gives you another reason to do so.

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Patriots signed RB Lamar Miller, formerly of the Texans, to a one-year contract.

It's insurance for Sony Michel (foot surgery), who remains on the team's PUP/active list while rehabbing ahead of camp. 29-year-old Miller hasn't stepped foot onto the field since tearing his ACL and MCL nearly one year ago to the day, but his veteran presence is suddenly a roadblock for any Damien Harris offseason hype. Rex Burkhead also loses out as a potential deep league flier since Miller is more than capable of playing on 3rd down. All in all, this is telling news for Michel, who is quietly trending towards opening the year on New England's PUP list (and thus missing the team's first six games).

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Damien Harris

, Sony Michel

SOURCE: Adam Schefter on Twitter

Aug 10, 2020, 5:33 PM ET

 

 

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1 hour ago, hispeedthinmint said:

Sony is toast. Burkhead gets cut

I doubt they cut Burkhead since he restructured taking a pay cut to free up cap space for the team. He is the only rb where you aren’t showing your hand. Sony is run. White is a pass. Burkhead does both and runs inside the tackles. I hopin Harris is an all purpose but we haven’t seen him play yet. 

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Not sure whether this says anything about Harris or not. Could strictly be Sony insurance and nothing more.

As a Harris owner, this is a bit of a hit as it may say they don't have confidence in him starting. On the other hand, Miller is coming off injury and may be washed so it could actually be good for Harris that they didn't bring in someone more formidable. 

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41 minutes ago, matuski said:

Can't imagine a lesser (1 year out from ACL/MCL) Lamar being any kind of road block for Harris, unless I am severely overestimating Harris.

I think you are somewhat overestimating Harris for a couple of reasons. One, he literally could not get on the field last year and was mostly a weekly inactive. He was behind Michel, White, Burkhead, and Bolden. The first three are back and now they have Miller instead of Bolden (and they seem to like UDFA J.J. Taylor). Assuming Newton is the QB, Cam will probably take away 100 carries and tons of scoring opportunities from the RB's. Second, over his coaching career, BB usually started his early drafted rookies or they turned into specialists. Maroney and Michel each had roughly 200 touches their rookie years.  Vereen and White each had around 15 touches as rookies.

The exception was Ridley, who went from 90 touches as a rookie to 300 touches his second season in NE. However, starter Green-Ellis left town for more money and there was a definite need and opportunity for more touches. I am not sure how Harris could have gained a lot on the depth chart when they haven't practiced at all yet. Sure, Michel could be more hurt than is being led on . . . but Michel has had some sort of injury or surgery in the off season pretty much every year. The point being, they have a ton of people that can run the football, and IMO, the likelihood that everyone else takes a backseat and Harris emerges as the bell cow this year seems unlikely. Put another way, why have all the other guys on the roster if they plan on feeding the ball to Harris? Harris was not a heavy carry back in college, nor did he catch many passes . . . he averaged 9 carries and 1 reception a game over his college career.

Media people I follow have not jumped on the Michel-is-way-more-banged-up-than-is-being-reported bandwagon. So my gut feeling is that Michel will be healthy enough to stay off the regular season PUP list. He's been rehabbing for weeks, and I would guess he will be back relatively soon (but that is just me taking a stab at it and not from any source). I want to see what Miller signed for to get a better sense of what they might do with him. If he got close to a minimum deal with hardly any guaranteed money, he may be a camp body that might be able to make the team and carve out a spot. If it is for decent money, then they plan on keeping him and using him.

I have heard some people connecting the dots and concluding that this could spell the end for Burkhead, but he took a pay cut to free up cap money recently, so I doubt they now say JUST KIDDING . . . EMPTY YOUR LOCKER. No matter how you slice it, I don't think anyone will confuse the New England offense for the Kansas City offense, so I think fantasy points will be hard to come by in New England this season.

I still think NE's plan is to save as much cap money as possible this year and offload it to next year, so they won't be making a splash to bring in a lot of O-line help this year. I also think they will probably try to go back to the early 2000's era for NE teams and go ground and pound, play solid defense, limit possessions for the other team, play conservative and not turn the ball over, and win games 16-10. I personally don't see a great path for Harris to being a regular fantasy contributor, but I would be interesting in taking him as a really late redraft pick out of curiosity to see if maybe he can do something (and thus be easy to move on from if better fantasy options are on the wire or present themselves).

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Patriots officially signed RB Lamar Miller to a one-year deal and placed him on the PUP list. 

Miller, 29, hasn't seen NFL action since tearing his ACL and MCL last August. When healthy, he's a three-down back who could be New England's RB1 come September while Sony Michel recovers from foot surgery. 

SOURCE: Aaron Wilson on Twitter 

Aug 13, 2020, 5:28 PM ET

 

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1 minute ago, wgoldsph said:

This makes me wonder how bad is Damien Harris.

Damien Harris has two speeds. Slow. And then slower.

But really, this is due diligence on the part of the Pats. They need the bodies to start the year to round out their RB room. Bolden is opting out, so that leaves at least one quick spot open and for the taking. Why not Miller at a cheap rate, assuming he comes cheaply?

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1 minute ago, rockaction said:

Damien Harris has two speeds. Slow. And then slower.

But really, this is due diligence on the part of the Pats. They need the bodies to start the year to round out their RB room. Bolden is opting out, so that leaves at least one quick spot open and for the taking. Why not Miller at a cheap rate, assuming he comes cheaply?

Because my fantasy team needs Harris to at least get into the rbbc in ne and he can't do that if Lamar Miller decides to make a come back.

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1 hour ago, rockaction said:

Damien Harris has two speeds. Slow. And then slower.

But really, this is due diligence on the part of the Pats. They need the bodies to start the year to round out their RB room. Bolden is opting out, so that leaves at least one quick spot open and for the taking. Why not Miller at a cheap rate, assuming he comes cheaply?

Emmitt Smith  was a speed demon

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1 hour ago, rockaction said:

Damien Harris has two speeds. Slow. And then slower.

But really, this is due diligence on the part of the Pats. They need the bodies to start the year to round out their RB room. Bolden is opting out, so that leaves at least one quick spot open and for the taking. Why not Miller at a cheap rate, assuming he comes cheaply?

I mentioned Harris' performance in one of the Patriots related thread. He was used sparingly in college . . . 9 carries and 1 reception per game. I am not sure why so many people think he will turn into a regular contributor in NE. As for being slow and slower, he did have a 6.4 ypc over his college career. Some of that has to be attributed to playing at Alabama, but that still is a pretty decent number. In his senior season, he had a 5.8 ypc. Najee Harris was at 6.7 and Joshua Jacobs was at 5.3.

Jacobs averaged 100 YFS for the Raiders last year. I don't know what that means for Harris, but the Tide opted to use Harris more than Jacobs. The NE backfield looks to be mostly one to avoid this season (more so than other seasons).

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Details on Miller's contract. Since he was on IR last year, just like with Cam Newton, the Pats opted for the incentive route. His contract contains a lot of not likely to be earned incentives and weekly roster bonuses. (That basically give NE more cap flexibility.) He signed for the veteran minimum ($1.05). With incentives, he could make $2.5 million this season. Only $200,000 guaranteed.

This makes it really easy for the Pats to release him with very little damage to their cap. NE still has $32.3 million in cap space this year, and the most likely outcome is they don't spend much of it and roll it over to 2021.

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Lamar Miller (knee, active/PUP) could be cleared to practice soon.

The Patriots have been giving Damien Harris an extended look in training camp with Sony Michel sidelined. That could change with Miller potentially cutting into his reps when he gets on the field. Miller averaged 4.6 YPC and played 57 percent of snaps with the Texans before missing all last year to ACL surgery. He's a wildcard in the Patriots' backfield.

SOURCE: Boston Sports Journal

Aug 21, 2020, 6:46 PM ET

 

 

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Patriots activated RB Lamar Miller (knee) from the active/PUP list. 

Signed three weeks ago, Miller now has 13 days to get conditioned for Week 1. Miller's activation comes five days after Sony Michel's (foot). That likely leaves Damien Harris as the favorite for Week 1 carries, but as usual, coach Bill Belichick's backfield plans are a bit of a black box. James White could perhaps take on a bigger early-down load, while coaching staff favorite Rex Burkhead remains on the roster. If forced to select a Patriots back, the Rotoworld staff is usually ending up with Harris. It's far from a guarantee Miller makes the 53-man roster. 

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Damien Harris

, Sony Michel

SOURCE: Aaron Wilson on Twitter 

Aug 31, 2020, 4:40 PM ET

 

 

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The Athletic's Jeff Howe confirms Lamar Miller is on the Patriots' "cut line."

Howe is simply confirming the obvious. Signed 22 days ago, Miller just came off the active/PUP list on Monday. That leaves him less than two weeks to make an impression before the Patriots' opener. Even with the Pats' backfield in its usual flux, Miller isn't a compelling flier behind Damien Harris, Sony Michel, James White and Rex Burkhead. 

SOURCE: The Athletic 

Sep 1, 2020, 1:14 PM ET

 

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Ah Rotoworld ... that article they link on The Athletic literally says:

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Miller is another tough one to predict because he was activated Monday from the physically unable to perform list.  Because the Patriots could have kept him on the PUP list and not burned a roster spot, my read is they want him on the field to contribute right away.  But if I'm misreading it, maybe they're using this week to evaluate his potential in the offense since they already have an abundance of running backs.  If this is merely a one-week tryout for Miller, they could release him for Copeland or Bryant.

 

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Miller said NE has had him run more this week than any team has in the past. It sounds like they are trying to see how in shape he is, if his knee is better, and to try to get his sea legs back. If they think he is healed up and can contribute, I don’t think they would cut him. They’ve carried 5 RB in the past. 

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Mark Daniels @MarkDanielsPJ

Ivan Fears on Lamar Miller: We threw him in the fire pretty fast just because we’re running out of time where you can be very physical in practice.. He’s done a great job. I really expect Lamar to bounce back and be the guy he was. But I’m sure that’s going to take a little time

https://twitter.com/markdanielspj/status/1301180071567396864?s=21

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Free agent Lamar Miller is visiting with the Bills. 

Miller, released by New England on Saturday, wouldn't pose an immediate threat to the workloads of either Devin Singletary or rookie Zack Moss. Coming off a torn ACL and MCL, Miller is a long shot to be anything more than a committee back. He can be left on the waiver wire if he signs with Buffalo. 

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Zack Moss

, Devin Singletary

SOURCE: Adam Schefter on Twitter 

Sep 7, 2020, 9:16 AM ET

 

 

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Free agent Lamar Miller is visiting with the Colts.

Indianapolis also hosted free agent RBs Darius Jackson and Benny LeMay. Miller, coming off a torn ACL and MCL, failed to make New England's roster out of camp and isn't a threat to either Jonathan Taylor or Nyheim Hines if signed off the streets. It is clear the Colts are looking for added help at that position.

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SOURCE: Tom Pelissero on Twitter

Sep 14, 2020, 4:54 PM ET

 

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Bears signed RB Lamar Miller to the practice squad.

Coming off a torn ACL and MCL, Chicago will likely observe Miller's progress before even considering him on the team's active roster. The veteran running back will replace Artavis Pierce, who was promoted for depth following the loss of Tarik Cohen (torn ACL) in Week 3. 29-year-old Miller isn't a threat to David Montgomery's workload moving forward.

SOURCE: Tom Pelissero on Twitter

Oct 2, 2020, 5:09 PM ET

 

 

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Bears promoted Lamar Miller to the active roster.

Ryan Nall, Cordarrelle Patterson, Artavis Pierce and Miller are all expected to be active for the Bears on Monday night. Miller hasn't handled a single carry since tearing his ACL and MCL with the Texans last preseason but is still expected to rotate in as a two-down sloth for David Montgomery (concussion). With no receiving upside to speak of, Miller is best deployed as a one-game DFS flier at the stone-minimum rather than being rostered as a re-draft asset.

SOURCE: Chicago Bears on Twitter

Nov 16, 2020, 4:52 PM ET

 

 

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2 hours ago, Faust said:

Bears promoted Lamar Miller to the active roster.

Ryan Nall, Cordarrelle Patterson, Artavis Pierce and Miller are all expected to be active for the Bears on Monday night. Miller hasn't handled a single carry since tearing his ACL and MCL with the Texans last preseason but is still expected to rotate in as a two-down sloth for David Montgomery (concussion). With no receiving upside to speak of, Miller is best deployed as a one-game DFS flier at the stone-minimum rather than being rostered as a re-draft asset.

SOURCE: Chicago Bears on Twitter

Nov 16, 2020, 4:52 PM ET

🤣 Is that what they call the position? 

I have heard web back pony back and so on but two down sloth? Thats a new one.

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Washington signed RB Lamar Miller.

Miller was added off Chicago's practice squad. It's a sign Washington doesn't expect Antonio Gibson to return this week. Miller have to go through COVID protocols before he's eligible to play.

Dec 16, 2020, 5:30 PM ET

 

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