they do have an insane need at RB right now but whats the point of going for Gordon with that trash lineTexans should trade for melvin gordon. Get a real RB in there, push all chips in and go for it. Clowney and a high pick for gordon.
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ShamrockPride
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nittanylion
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madviking10
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Buddy Howell had a huge week last week and saw no touches tonight. I think the Lamar Miller injury is why that happen. I don't see them trading for an old back either.
Don Hutson
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That's only because Crockett blew his knee out before his junior year. He scored a 92 yard touchdown with 6 seconds left to beat Alabama and also scored the winning touchdown in the Gator Bowl which netted him the game ball. He then transferred to the Southeast Asia Conference i.e. Viet Nam. https://miamivice.fandom.com/wiki/James_"Sonny"_Crockett
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KellysHeroes
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Maybe Hou can make a play for Gordon?
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
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Just signed with the Patriots.
A little surprising I guess. They must be worried about Harris' talent, and/or Michel's health.
Is Miller off an ACL tear better than Burkhead?
Boston
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Interesting signing...could mean nothing could mean a lot...they lost Bolden so there was an opening but he is more of a special teams guy and Miller is not...Michel is on the PUP with a foot issue and no one has any clue what they think of Harris...the one definite is White and gotta believe Burkhead is safe for another year after restructuring but he is by no means an ironman...the Pats backfield is usually one to avoid and this only gives you another reason to do so.
I doubt they cut Burkhead since he restructured taking a pay cut to free up cap space for the team. He is the only rb where you aren’t showing your hand. Sony is run. White is a pass. Burkhead does both and runs inside the tackles. I hopin Harris is an all purpose but we haven’t seen him play yet.
Not sure whether this says anything about Harris or not. Could strictly be Sony insurance and nothing more.
As a Harris owner, this is a bit of a hit as it may say they don't have confidence in him starting. On the other hand, Miller is coming off injury and may be washed so it could actually be good for Harris that they didn't bring in someone more formidable.
As a Harris owner, this is a bit of a hit as it may say they don't have confidence in him starting. On the other hand, Miller is coming off injury and may be washed so it could actually be good for Harris that they didn't bring in someone more formidable.
Dr. Octopus
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Bill loves Burkhead and he's a better all around back than a washed up Miller anyway.
Anarchy99
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I think you are somewhat overestimating Harris for a couple of reasons. One, he literally could not get on the field last year and was mostly a weekly inactive. He was behind Michel, White, Burkhead, and Bolden. The first three are back and now they have Miller instead of Bolden (and they seem to like UDFA J.J. Taylor). Assuming Newton is the QB, Cam will probably take away 100 carries and tons of scoring opportunities from the RB's. Second, over his coaching career, BB usually started his early drafted rookies or they turned into specialists. Maroney and Michel each had roughly 200 touches their rookie years. Vereen and White each had around 15 touches as rookies.
The exception was Ridley, who went from 90 touches as a rookie to 300 touches his second season in NE. However, starter Green-Ellis left town for more money and there was a definite need and opportunity for more touches. I am not sure how Harris could have gained a lot on the depth chart when they haven't practiced at all yet. Sure, Michel could be more hurt than is being led on . . . but Michel has had some sort of injury or surgery in the off season pretty much every year. The point being, they have a ton of people that can run the football, and IMO, the likelihood that everyone else takes a backseat and Harris emerges as the bell cow this year seems unlikely. Put another way, why have all the other guys on the roster if they plan on feeding the ball to Harris? Harris was not a heavy carry back in college, nor did he catch many passes . . . he averaged 9 carries and 1 reception a game over his college career.
Media people I follow have not jumped on the Michel-is-way-more-banged-up-than-is-being-reported bandwagon. So my gut feeling is that Michel will be healthy enough to stay off the regular season PUP list. He's been rehabbing for weeks, and I would guess he will be back relatively soon (but that is just me taking a stab at it and not from any source). I want to see what Miller signed for to get a better sense of what they might do with him. If he got close to a minimum deal with hardly any guaranteed money, he may be a camp body that might be able to make the team and carve out a spot. If it is for decent money, then they plan on keeping him and using him.
I have heard some people connecting the dots and concluding that this could spell the end for Burkhead, but he took a pay cut to free up cap money recently, so I doubt they now say JUST KIDDING . . . EMPTY YOUR LOCKER. No matter how you slice it, I don't think anyone will confuse the New England offense for the Kansas City offense, so I think fantasy points will be hard to come by in New England this season.
I still think NE's plan is to save as much cap money as possible this year and offload it to next year, so they won't be making a splash to bring in a lot of O-line help this year. I also think they will probably try to go back to the early 2000's era for NE teams and go ground and pound, play solid defense, limit possessions for the other team, play conservative and not turn the ball over, and win games 16-10. I personally don't see a great path for Harris to being a regular fantasy contributor, but I would be interesting in taking him as a really late redraft pick out of curiosity to see if maybe he can do something (and thus be easy to move on from if better fantasy options are on the wire or present themselves).
rockaction
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Damien Harris has two speeds. Slow. And then slower.
But really, this is due diligence on the part of the Pats. They need the bodies to start the year to round out their RB room. Bolden is opting out, so that leaves at least one quick spot open and for the taking. Why not Miller at a cheap rate, assuming he comes cheaply?
wgoldsph
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Because my fantasy team needs Harris to at least get into the rbbc in ne and he can't do that if Lamar Miller decides to make a come back.
rockaction
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wgoldsph
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Ditka Butkus
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Anarchy99
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I mentioned Harris' performance in one of the Patriots related thread. He was used sparingly in college . . . 9 carries and 1 reception per game. I am not sure why so many people think he will turn into a regular contributor in NE. As for being slow and slower, he did have a 6.4 ypc over his college career. Some of that has to be attributed to playing at Alabama, but that still is a pretty decent number. In his senior season, he had a 5.8 ypc. Najee Harris was at 6.7 and Joshua Jacobs was at 5.3.
Jacobs averaged 100 YFS for the Raiders last year. I don't know what that means for Harris, but the Tide opted to use Harris more than Jacobs. The NE backfield looks to be mostly one to avoid this season (more so than other seasons).
Anarchy99
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Details on Miller's contract. Since he was on IR last year, just like with Cam Newton, the Pats opted for the incentive route. His contract contains a lot of not likely to be earned incentives and weekly roster bonuses. (That basically give NE more cap flexibility.) He signed for the veteran minimum ($1.05). With incentives, he could make $2.5 million this season. Only $200,000 guaranteed.
This makes it really easy for the Pats to release him with very little damage to their cap. NE still has $32.3 million in cap space this year, and the most likely outcome is they don't spend much of it and roll it over to 2021.
This makes it really easy for the Pats to release him with very little damage to their cap. NE still has $32.3 million in cap space this year, and the most likely outcome is they don't spend much of it and roll it over to 2021.
Anarchy99
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Miller said NE has had him run more this week than any team has in the past. It sounds like they are trying to see how in shape he is, if his knee is better, and to try to get his sea legs back. If they think he is healed up and can contribute, I don’t think they would cut him. They’ve carried 5 RB in the past.
Drunken Cowboy
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I have picked him up in one league. I think he has something left. He should be able to get at least some third down work.
Biabreakable
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Is that what they call the position? I have heard web back pony back and so on but two down sloth? Thats a new one.
Helaire-ious
Footballguy
Maybe Miller really does not have anything left...
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