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I'm in the same type of league. I've been discussing trading my 2nd round pick for Miller since his owner won't be keeping him. Now I'm starting to reconsider...
Yeah, it wouldn't be the first time a RB turned the corner in his third year. Just look at Spiller last year...
He has gotten 9...count them...9 carries.rickyg said:
Good post.
I guess you missed his first two NFL games prior to getting hurt. Hasn't been given a true chance since then. Those are the facts. I love the excuses. Both guys will see carry's. all you Lamar Miller hard-on owners (maybe not you since you are a Dolfan as well) just can't stand it! Lol. Go Fins!
This reminds me of Moreno last year. Didn't show anything of note his first two years - low YPC, ran hesitantly. He got a good shot in pre-season game 4 and finally ran like his job depended on it - it did, I think he was on the bubble and a strong showing kept him on the team.
I'd argue DT is the one to own, simply due to his non-existent ADP and possible value. If this really is a full blown RBBC Miller's ADP may be slightly inflated right now.
It was indeed a good post with good points. But they don't just judge in preseason game performance. Practice performance counts too so my question is why hasn't miller blown thomas away in practice enough for the coaches to be decisive about who their starter is? Is it just a motivational ploy by philbin? Possible .
well, yeah, considering ADP, you are right. I'm comparing the two neglecting ADP. I'm just saying - when there is a time share, you want the faster guy who is involved in the passing game.
That's a bit uncalled for.
No need to get all douchey about it. I drafted Miller back when there was absolutely no talk of a potential RBBC with Thomas -- hindsight is 20/20.
IF your a true die hard Dolphin fan....like me....you want Lamar Miller owning this job. He gives us the best chance to win.
Dolphin homer and big Miller fan/owner, but I have seen no evidence that you can make the above statement.
I have to dig out a direct quote from Sherman who said he likes to have a lead back. He said it point blank a few weeks ago. I read it in the Sun Sentinal.
Neither have really proven anything. The line is like Swiss cheese and Tannehill hasn't made the progress I thought he would have. At the point you can draft these two I prefer Wilson, Bernard, Lacy, Bell
Bell is out for several weeks and hasn't proved anything either, and that line looks bad as well. Wilson/Bernard/Lacy I could see though.
Couldn't have said this any better. And I'll be right there with you eating crow if he bombs as I've been driving this train for a while here.
I'm not a Miller homer as my posts in here prove that, but you can't be serious about Lacy or Bell being BETTER than Miller right now no matter what the situations are like. I would, however, give the nod to Gio and Wilson. Gio will be a super star barring an unforseeable injury and Wilson is simply in a better situation with all the attributes Miller has.
I wonder if people were throwing away 2nd and 3rd round picks on TRich and Martin last year? There were certainly more proven players available around their adp's.
That might be true, but at least Richardson and Martin were highly-touted rookies. Miller is a 2nd year player, who in his first year couldn't even get more touches than the flop that is Daniel Thomas, so you'll have to excuse some of us if we take the "I'll believe it when I see it" approach with Miller instead of just assuming that he is suddenly gonna be a stud this year who can handle full-time touches.
I'm not saying that he will be a stud, at all. I'm saying prior to this week, with all of the data we had to work with, Lamar Miller made sense in the late teens as far as RB's go. Obviously, the Houston game, and the comments coming out of Miami this week have changed that. Prior to this week though, I don't think gambling on Miller in the 3rd was "throwing away" a pick.
Last year miller was the youngest player in the nfl I believe. The dolphins had every intention of bringing him along slowly. He struggled in pass pro which limited his usage. Bush dominated touches and dt gave him a breather BC he was better at pass pro. Wasn't a talent issue.
I have thought this as well. Or maybe they want to install confidence in Thomas. But I find it VERY hard to believe Thomas will be the lead back. He just doesn't have that gear and big play threat Miller does. The NFL is about speed today, and Miller has that, Thomas doesn't.
Ghost.....if Miller did not have that shoulder surgery before the draft I can almost assure you he goes on day one. He was a star at UM and people do not seem to watch the Canes as closely as they used to. He was brought along very slowly last year for the reasons I gave you above. It was not DT in is way either...Reggie Bush was the teams horse.
4th round isn't bad for Miller. Every year we reach into the 4th round to grab guys like Miller so we can get Megatron, Dez and Bush in the first 3 rounds. Sometimes they turn into CJ Spiller and Doug Martin, sometimes they turn into Mark Ingram and Shonn Greene
I own Miller as well, but that quote is from 2 weeks ago. The latest Sherman quote has Miller and Thomas "neck and neck" in the RB competition, which isn't something you want to hear.
I guess my point in my posts with out spelling it out is don't read into that particular quote.
Ok......we will see.
Don't think it is going to take that long.
I like to look back....not week to week beating my chest blah blah blah.
Good to see I'm not the only one who doesn't think DT is complete ####. He truly looked different to me last week, shiftier than I ever remembered. I actually wasn't sure if it was him at first. He definitely doesn't have the same upside as Miller, but well-round is an apt description. Being the superior pass blocker, catcher and being better suited to run in between the tackles doesn't count for nothing. I smell some type of platoon regardless.
Guys Todem knows about the Dolphins. Don't doubt him.