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He came up gimpy after a long attempt early...but he was back out there not too long after.he got injured, no?
He came up gimpy after a long attempt early...but he was back out there not too long after.he got injured, no?
Michael Floyd had zero catches on four targets in Sunday's 24-20 win over the Eagles.
Floyd gave owners a brief scare early when Eagles CB Bradley Fletcher landed on his knee, but injury was not the issue here. Floyd was targeted on three deep balls early, narrowly missing on two of them that could have been construed as drops. Frustratingly, the Cardinals did not manufacture any catches for Floyd on more high-percentage throws, instead drawing those up for Larry Fitzgerald (7-160-1 on 10 targets). Floyd's natural ability keeps him on the WR2 radar against Dallas in Week 9, but volume is a concern. He has a total of seven targets in the last two weeks.
boy. did he f me today.....
no consistency from this guy. either bench or drop from now on
Who did you pick up?I cut him. He's a "Boom" or bust guy, but this year the "Boom" has only been 10 to 13 points. That is not enough for me to warrant the zeroes and ones that we get in the bust weeks. Since I finally cut bait, you can pencil in 4-169-2 this week.
Sadly enough, I actually have to pick between starting torrey or floyd as my wr2 this week because of bye week issues--and I find myself going back and forth between the two. As of now--I have floyd in--but my level of comfort is basically zero.Torrey Smith is a good example of comparison. Let's hope it doesn't sink to Travis Taylor.
I think this misses the mark. I think Floyd's numbers are suffering from a few factors.He's had 7 targets over the last two games. He is boom or bust, he is the new Torry Smith, catch a long one or catch nothing
Couldn't agree more! He will have a few nice games down the stretch. I wouldn't want him as my 2, but he's a great flex option. With Palmer at the helm, last week was an aberration not the normIf there ever was a buy low window it is now. I think like many next year will be when we start to see more consistency.
But the problem is that people didn't draft him as a flex. He was supposed to be a #2 with #1 upside.Couldn't agree more! He will have a few nice games down the stretch. I wouldn't want him as my 2, but he's a great flex option. With Palmer at the helm, last week was an aberration not the normIf there ever was a buy low window it is now. I think like many next year will be when we start
to see more consistency.
With Palmer at QB, opposite Fitz, and with a pass catching RB?But the problem is that people didn't draft him as a flex. He was supposed to be a #2 with #1 upside.Couldn't agree more! He will have a few nice games down the stretch. I wouldn't want him as my 2, but he's a great flex option. With Palmerat the helm, last week was an aberration not the normIf there ever was a buy low window it is now. I think like many next year will be when we start
to see more consistency.
I think that was possible until John Brown stepped in and grabbed 6 targets/game.With Palmer at QB, opposite Fitz, and with a pass catching RB?But the problem is that people didn't draft him as a flex. He was supposed to be a #2 with #1 upside.Couldn't agree more! He will have a few nice games down the stretch. I wouldn't want him as my 2, but he's a great flex option. With Palmerat the helm, last week was an aberration not the normIf there ever was a buy low window it is now. I think like many next year will be when we start
to see more consistency.
Yes, yes, and yes. He still could very well end up a #2 with #1 upside.With Palmer at QB, opposite Fitz, and with a pass catching RB?But the problem is that people didn't draft him as a flex. He was supposed to be a #2 with #1 upside.Couldn't agree more! He will have a few nice games down the stretch. I wouldn't want him as my 2, but he's a great flex option. With Palmerat the helm, last week was an aberration not the normIf there ever was a buy low window it is now. I think like many next year will be when we start
to see more consistency.
Fitzgerald hasn't had a thousand yards for 2 years and isn't on pace again this year. They have no TE so that way more than makes up for Ellington. Palmer isn't good but Arians offense should fit him perfectly. Sounding like a lot of excuses going on here. If he's a top 10 wr in the NFL, he should be doing a lot better than this.With Palmer at QB, opposite Fitz, and with a pass catching RB?But the problem is that people didn't draft him as a flex. He was supposed to be a #2 with #1 upside.Couldn't agree more! He will have a few nice games down the stretch. I wouldn't want him as my 2, but he's a great flex option. With Palmerat the helm, last week was an aberration not the normIf there ever was a buy low window it is now. I think like many next year will be when we start
to see more consistency.
He has 21 targets from Palmer this year. You are ready to make call on that?Fitzgerald hasn't had a thousand yards for 2 years and isn't on pace again this year. They have no TE so that way more than makes up for Ellington. Palmer isn't good but Arians offense should fit him perfectly. Sounding like a lot of excuses going on here. If he's a top 10 wr in the NFL, he should be doing a lot better than this.With Palmer at QB, opposite Fitz, and with a pass catching RB?But the problem is that people didn't draft him as a flex. He was supposed to be a #2 with #1 upside.Couldn't agree more! He will have a few nice games down the stretch. I wouldn't want him as my 2, but he's a great flex option. With Palmerat the helm, last week was an aberration not the normIf there ever was a buy low window it is now. I think like many next year will be when we start
to see more consistency.
in redraft that was a mistake. But, I just picked him up off waivers, so that seems a good buy-low. (had to drop K. Wright)But the problem is that people didn't draft him as a flex. He was supposed to be a #2 with #1 upside.Couldn't agree more! He will have a few nice games down the stretch. I wouldn't want him as my 2, but he's a great flex option. With Palmerat the helm, last week was an aberration not the normIf there ever was a buy low window it is now. I think like many next year will be when we start
to see more consistency.
Just to be clear when I say buy low I am only speaking in dynasty terms.in redraft that was a mistake. But, I just picked him up off waivers, so that seems a good buy-low. (had to drop K. Wright)But the problem is that people didn't draft him as a flex. He was supposed to be a #2 with #1 upside.Couldn't agree more! He will have a few nice games down the stretch. I wouldn't want him as my 2, but he's a great flex option. With Palmerat the helm, last week was an aberration not the normIf there ever was a buy low window it is now. I think like many next year will be when we start
to see more consistency.
Meh, a TD only league boosts the value of Floyd, he has scored in 2 of the 4 games Palmer started. Meanwhile Donnell has scored in 2 of 7 games with Eli.Just traded Floyd for Donnell in a TD only league, as I also have Ellington
Go Giants! lol
You guys sound like Trent Richardson fans from last year, one excuse after another. This is his second year with Palmer. And last year Fitzgerald had a down year as he was nicked up a lot, they had no TE, not much of a wr3 and Floyd had a great opportunity to put up big numbers. He was okay. Now this year, he's been slightly worse.He has 21 targets from Palmer this year. You are ready to make call on that?Fitzgerald hasn't had a thousand yards for 2 years and isn't on pace again this year. They have no TE so that way more than makes up for Ellington. Palmer isn't good but Arians offense should fit him perfectly. Sounding like a lot of excuses going on here. If he's a top 10 wr in the NFL, he should be doing a lot better than this.With Palmer at QB, opposite Fitz, and with a pass catching RB?But the problem is that people didn't draft him as a flex. He was supposed to be a #2 with #1 upside.Couldn't agree more! He will have a few nice games down the stretch. I wouldn't want him as my 2, but he's a great flex option. With Palmerat the helm, last week was an aberration not the normIf there ever was a buy low window it is now. I think like many next year will be when we start
to see more consistency.
I'm perfectly willing to agree that he's not going to be a stud WR this year. I think that has a lot to do with his current situation. His coach has made a conscious decision to equally target Fitz/Floyd/Brown and Ellington in the passing game. Right now targets are sitting at 49/43/43/43 respectively. The only reason Fitz is ahead by six is the fact he got six more targets than Floyd last week. It could just as easily swing back the other way next week.
This isn't a talent issue. This is a coaching decision. HOFer in Fitz on one side. Excellent pass catching back in Ellington. Brown looks like a very good rookie WR. Arians decides to make defenses cover them all, and distributes the ball evenly amongst them. Pisses off FF owners, but he's sitting there at 6-1 and laughing all the way to the bank.
You don't want me to tell you what you sound like.You guys sound like Trent Richardson fans from last year, one excuse after another. This is his second year with Palmer. And last year Fitzgerald had a down year as he was nicked up a lot, they had no TE, not much of a wr3 and Floyd had a great opportunity to put up big numbers. He was okay. Now this year, he's been slightly worse.He has 21 targets from Palmer this year. You are ready to make call on that? I'm perfectly willing to agree that he's not going to be a stud WR this year. I think that has a lot to do with his current situation. His coach has made a conscious decision to equally target Fitz/Floyd/Brown and Ellington in the passing game. Right now targets are sitting at 49/43/43/43 respectively. The only reason Fitz is ahead by six is the fact he got six more targets than Floyd last week. It could just as easily swing back the other way next week.Fitzgerald hasn't had a thousand yards for 2 years and isn't on pace again this year. They have no TE so that way more than makes up for Ellington. Palmer isn't good but Arians offense should fit him perfectly. Sounding like a lot of excuses going on here. If he's a top 10 wr in the NFL, he should be doing a lot better than this.With Palmer at QB, opposite Fitz, and with a pass catching RB?But the problem is that people didn't draft him as a flex. He was supposed to be a #2 with #1 upside.Couldn't agree more! He will have a few nice games down the stretch. I wouldn't want him as my 2, but he's a great flex option. With Palmerat the helm, last week was an aberration not the normIf there ever was a buy low window it is now. I think like many next year will be when we start
to see more consistency.
This isn't a talent issue. This is a coaching decision. HOFer in Fitz on one side. Excellent pass catching back in Ellington. Brown looks like a very good rookie WR. Arians decides to make defenses cover them all, and distributes the ball evenly amongst them. Pisses off FF owners, but he's sitting there at 6-1 and laughing all the way to the bank.
Yes, talent is issue. If he was an elite level wr like a lot of people say he is, he should be doing a lot better than this. Wake up call, if Floyd was an elite player, he'd get more targets than a rookie 3rd round draft pick. Great players end up with more targets because they are simply open more, make more plays on the ball and earn the trust of the qb. I think Floyd is a good deep threat but he does seem like a one-trick pony. That's fine and he can be a solid low wr2 or high wr3 but he's being sold a lot higher than that.
Teetering toward doing so too but unfortunately passed up some good replacements while holding on.Dropped him last week after his goose egg and it feels great.
:XVery torn BW this turd and Jordan Reed. In a .5 ppr.
I just know if I sit floyd today he will have 100 and a touch
I'm guilty of that, overvalued Floyd..Don't own Floyd anywhere. This guy was being WAY OVERVALUED. I'm not saying he isn't a decent prospect. But many had him ahead of Fitzgerald. He is not a stud and does not belong in the conversation. He is serviceable. It is what it is. Guess we have to accept it.
Bennett and Forte have put up huge numbers this year. Jeffery and Marshall have been nicked up and Cutler has been awful. Look up the numbers these players put up last year when they were healthy and the qb play was better. Also look up the Denver offense, Colts, etc, etc. Laughable. I'm going to repeat this, I'm not saying Floyd is a bad player, but he's not elite. Elite players will always force more targets and get theirs in the end. Of course they have down games but not down years for no reason (injury, awful qb play, etc). Unless he improves quite a bit, he's not in the conversation to be an elite wr.You don't want me to tell you what you sound like.You guys sound like Trent Richardson fans from last year, one excuse after another. This is his second year with Palmer. And last year Fitzgerald had a down year as he was nicked up a lot, they had no TE, not much of a wr3 and Floyd had a great opportunity to put up big numbers. He was okay. Now this year, he's been slightly worse.He has 21 targets from Palmer this year. You are ready to make call on that? I'm perfectly willing to agree that he's not going to be a stud WR this year. I think that has a lot to do with his current situation. His coach has made a conscious decision to equally target Fitz/Floyd/Brown and Ellington in the passing game. Right now targets are sitting at 49/43/43/43 respectively. The only reason Fitz is ahead by six is the fact he got six more targets than Floyd last week. It could just as easily swing back the other way next week.Fitzgerald hasn't had a thousand yards for 2 years and isn't on pace again this year. They have no TE so that way more than makes up for Ellington. Palmer isn't good but Arians offense should fit him perfectly. Sounding like a lot of excuses going on here. If he's a top 10 wr in the NFL, he should be doing a lot better than this.With Palmer at QB, opposite Fitz, and with a pass catching RB?But the problem is that people didn't draft him as a flex. He was supposed to be a #2 with #1 upside.Couldn't agree more! He will have a few nice games down the stretch. I wouldn't want him as my 2, but he's a great flex option. With Palmerat the helm, last week was an aberration not the normIf there ever was a buy low window it is now. I think like many next year will be when we start
to see more consistency.
This isn't a talent issue. This is a coaching decision. HOFer in Fitz on one side. Excellent pass catching back in Ellington. Brown looks like a very good rookie WR. Arians decides to make defenses cover them all, and distributes the ball evenly amongst them. Pisses off FF owners, but he's sitting there at 6-1 and laughing all the way to the bank.
Yes, talent is issue. If he was an elite level wr like a lot of people say he is, he should be doing a lot better than this. Wake up call, if Floyd was an elite player, he'd get more targets than a rookie 3rd round draft pick. Great players end up with more targets because they are simply open more, make more plays on the ball and earn the trust of the qb. I think Floyd is a good deep threat but he does seem like a one-trick pony. That's fine and he can be a solid low wr2 or high wr3 but he's being sold a lot higher than that.
So can you explain to me then why Forte, Marshall, Jeffery and Bennett are essentially splitting targets evenly? Are none of them elite?