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"Black Quarterback" ... hard to believe it ever mattered (1 Viewer)
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Of course I meant Taylor. I was just reacting to something I read maybe a month ago, I defer to the Bills fan in all ways on that. And he was the best season by a Bills QB since..... is it fair to say Kelly?
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
One could argue that Drew Bledsoe had a better season, but Tyrod actually set several franchise QB records this year.
FootballOutsiders have him as #1 in QBR under pressure for 2015.
RGIII obviously showed that 1 season doesn't necessarily tell us a whole lot, but Tyrod's year reminded me a lot of Russell Wilson's rookie year. A guy that nobody expected to win the job heading into camp. A guy that everyone had low expectations for once he won the job. A QB mainly tasked to be a game manager, but was crazy efficient when actually throwing the ball. Good leadership skills. Good under pressure. Nice deep ball.
The question for Taylor is whether he can be consistent, show growth, and show that he can keep that level of efficiency with an increase in passing opportunities (if the Bills would ever consider that).
dschuler
Footballguy
World internet crisis scenario: Redskins cut RG III. Browns cut Johnny Football. Cowboys sign RG III and Manziel. Internet breaks.
trogg78
Footballguy
Pretty sure I've heard Taylor will be getting a new contract as a starting QB.
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
Another banner year for the black man. 3 black QBs in the NFC playoffs, who only were able to be defeated by another black QB. It's at the point now when you have to question whether or not being white is a detriment at the QB position.
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Black QBs matter!
Jesse Jackson played quarterback. One of the reasons he transferred from Illinois to North Carolina A&T was that Illinois, apparently, wanted him to play another position instead.
Higgs
Footballguy
Randall was spectacular. Very underrated.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Just a little ahead of his time.
I often wonder what a QB who could punt could do to the game.
Willie Neslon
Footballguy
Crap thread bump. Den won because they had an all-time D and had 2 weeks to prepare.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
Panthers offense was atrocious until they had to call on Derek Anderson!BusterTBronco said:
MaxThreshold
Footballguy
Yeah, the HOT girlfriend half. Shame really. All that hotness wasted on a bitter, hateful and angry ideology.
squistion
Footballguy
He hasn't sat for the anthem after the first game that the press noticed it. He has been kneeling since that time, at the suggestion of an ex-Green Beret he is friends with.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
I believe the proper way to say that is "Gifted athlete quarterbacks are .500 this week, student of the game quarterbacks are .500 this week"
rockaction
Footballguy
Still hard to believe this ever, ever mattered. An embarrassment at the highest level.
Warren Moon, here's your HoF pass from me.
Warren Moon, here's your HoF pass from me.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
God, if I could wear a bigger bag over my head, I would.
Thank God.
Thank God.
BowieMercs
Footballguy
Still have the Superbowl Wheaties box with Doug Williams on it.
I hate Dan Snyder.
I hate Dan Snyder.
You'll be happy to know that fatness would like to send Cousins to SF so that he can draft some other guy at #2 overall and begin a long string of bottom feeding in the tough NFC East because you would once again have no franchise QB.
rockaction
Footballguy
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BowieMercs
Footballguy
otb_lifer
Footballguy
'91 Rypien Indigenous Peoples are the most underrated juggernaut of all time - i take 'em over all comers
DallasDMac
Footballguy
You seem to have a problem dealing with someone having an opinion differing from yours. Hopefully it doesn't make you clench as much as it sounds as if it does.
Ditka Butkus
Footballguy
Who are in the championship games this weekend?...I'll tell you who... pocket passers..
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Warren Moon is currently the only black QB in the NFL Hall of Fame.
The interesting question is, who will be the second? I would probably say Russell Wilson, as I think he is on that trajectory, but some will always dismiss the one ring he has, giving the D and Lynch all of the credit, but I have never bough into that. Wilson, by my eyes, just looks like a HoF QB.
Having said all of that, while he shouldn't get in, I could see the media voting McNabb in, to avoid the cries of racial bias if he doesn't get in (which would be inevitable).
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
Binky The Doormat
Footballguy
As big, if not bigger - black head coaches.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
General Malaise
Footballguy
Cam could get there if he wins a ring or two.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
I don't believe he should, but I won't be surprised if voters let him in eventually.
He has a long way to get there. With the exception of 2015, his play has never consistently been HoF-worthy.
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[scooter]
Footballguy
Nah. I think the liberal media elite will go out of their way to shun McNabb just to prove Rush Limbaugh wrong.
General Malaise
Footballguy
1. Making the NFL HOF is frigging hard. Voters aren't letting anybody in unless they feel it is deserved. Search out some of the processes the voters go through from the words of Peter King. He does a great job painting the picture of how difficult it is for players to get voted in. The cut down from 15 to 5 is excruciating.
2. You forget just how good Cam was his rookie year. He took the league by storm. Back to back 400 yard games to start, rushing record for TDs by a QB, instantly improved his team by himself. I get that his petulance hurts him, but he's been a terrific QB.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
I had Cam on my fantasy team when he was a rookie, so I definitely did not forget.
That said, a terrific QB? Let's get real. I get that he is hard to judge like other QBs because his rushing numbers for a QB are so gaudy, but that doesn't erase the he has always, except for 2015, been an inconsistent QB, his YPA is rarely great (despite his big arm), his completion percentage stinks most of the time, and both his QBR and passer rating have never been anything special. For as great as he was Monday night, would he anybody be surprised if he came out in week 12 and threw up a stinker? I doubt it. That is what Cam Newton is: Mr Inconsistent. When he's good, he's damn great, but when he's bad, he really stinks. The greats do not have as many ups and downs as he does.
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bucksoh
Footballguy
There's never going to be another HOF black player in my lifetime (43 years old). The only reason Warren Moon made it cause he spent his 1st five years in Canada learning how to pass. History suggests that if he first came to the NFL he might have had a few good years then, then he would have flamed out just like every black QB does when there talent fades. Until there is a NFL Europe or another way to get these QBs better there is never going to be another black QB in the HOF. No black QB playing now has a chance cause they all rely on their talent. Heck even the white QBs suck now a days, which is why the NFL better develop a farm system.
Binky The Doormat
Footballguy
Super King
Footballguy
Vanilla Guerrilla
Footballguy
I was thinking McNair. But I looked on Wikipedia and his numbers were never elite.
