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So is John Snow going beyond the wall to try and kill Mance Radernation? Why wouldn't he take his sword? Maybe he is going to try and convince them he is still a Wild Thing.

That part makes no sense to me, unless he reunites somehow with Bran and both dogs.

So you think Mance's army would let a crow with a sword get near Mance?

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Can they even use that anchor again? It seemed like they had to break two seals to drop it. How hard is it going to be to reload that thing before the next night considering half the night's watch died. Or are there more of those anchors ready to go.

Sure seems like they exhausted the majority of their defenses already.

They hoisted it back up after they dropped it.

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Can they even use that anchor again? It seemed like they had to break two seals to drop it. How hard is it going to be to reload that thing before the next night considering half the night's watch died. Or are there more of those anchors ready to go.

Sure seems like they exhausted the majority of their defenses already.

Don't see why they couldn't bring that anchor up in rather quick order. Rope, pulleys, a little elbow grease and bam ANCHOR SLICEXPLODE!!1!!!!!111

Dolorous Edd ordered them to crank it back up right after it happened.

Book reader. :rolleyes:

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Can they even use that anchor again? It seemed like they had to break two seals to drop it. How hard is it going to be to reload that thing before the next night considering half the night's watch died. Or are there more of those anchors ready to go.

Sure seems like they exhausted the majority of their defenses already.

Don't see why they couldn't bring that anchor up in rather quick order. Rope, pulleys, a little elbow grease and bam ANCHOR SLICEXPLODE!!1!!!!!111

Dolorous Edd ordered them to crank it back up right after it happened.

Book reader. :rolleyes:

So?

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So is John Snow going beyond the wall to try and kill Mance Radernation? Why wouldn't he take his sword? Maybe he is going to try and convince them he is still a Wild Thing.

That part makes no sense to me, unless he reunites somehow with Bran and both dogs.

So you think Mance's army would let a crow with a sword get near Mance?

Does Mance know that Snow betrayed them?

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So is John Snow going beyond the wall to try and kill Mance Radernation? Why wouldn't he take his sword? Maybe he is going to try and convince them he is still a Wild Thing.

That part makes no sense to me, unless he reunites somehow with Bran and both dogs.

So you think Mance's army would let a crow with a sword get near Mance?

Does Mance know that Snow betrayed them?

good point

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Kind of amusing that the Knight's Watch simply watched that giant take his sweet time to punch through that metal wall and open it up. Like, maybe you guys could drop a rock on him? Something?

I thought about that too. My explanation parallels that justifying the flaming arrows - hard to see one dude 700 feet away in the middle of the night in the heat of battle.

Also didn't know why the team sent to secure the gate against said giant didn't have any ranged weapons to shoot through the bars of the inner gate. That might have helped.

They commented that the giant was shot with 20 arrows already and they had no effect.

Like Mongo, it would have just made him angry.

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So is John Snow going beyond the wall to try and kill Mance Radernation? Why wouldn't he take his sword? Maybe he is going to try and convince them he is still a Wild Thing.

That part makes no sense to me, unless he reunites somehow with Bran and both dogs.

So you think Mance's army would let a crow with a sword get near Mance?

Does Mance know that Snow betrayed them?

good point

Doesn't matter. Even if he pretents to still be one of them, there's no way his lieutenants would let Snow get anywhere near Mance with a weapon. Snow would have to not only convincingly argue how he was able to get through the Black Tower camp (and through the gate), but also why, when he's the most likely to betray Mance (being a former crow), was he the only one of the whole group which got over the wall to come back to Mance. Difficult to even imagine Snow arguing why butter if better than jam.

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So is John Snow going beyond the wall to try and kill Mance Radernation? Why wouldn't he take his sword? Maybe he is going to try and convince them he is still a Wild Thing.

That part makes no sense to me, unless he reunites somehow with Bran and both dogs.

So you think Mance's army would let a crow with a sword get near Mance?

Does Mance know that Snow betrayed them?

Pretty sure the dude spying on the Night Watchmen, via the owl, would have seen Jon Snow ...

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Kind of amusing that the Knight's Watch simply watched that giant take his sweet time to punch through that metal wall and open it up. Like, maybe you guys could drop a rock on him? Something?

I thought about that too. My explanation parallels that justifying the flaming arrows - hard to see one dude 700 feet away in the middle of the night in the heat of battle.

Also didn't know why the team sent to secure the gate against said giant didn't have any ranged weapons to shoot through the bars of the inner gate. That might have helped.

They commented that the giant was shot with 20 arrows already and they had no effect.

Like Mongo, it would have just made him angry.

Mongo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GoT giant!

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So is John Snow going beyond the wall to try and kill Mance Radernation? Why wouldn't he take his sword? Maybe he is going to try and convince them he is still a Wild Thing.

That part makes no sense to me, unless he reunites somehow with Bran and both dogs.

So you think Mance's army would let a crow with a sword get near Mance?

Does Mance know that Snow betrayed them?

Pretty sure the dude spying on the Night Watchmen, via the owl, would have seen Jon Snow ...

That dude is dead.

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Pretty sure the dude spying on the Night Watchmen, via the owl, would have seen Jon Snow ...

In a world where multiple people can see through the eyes of animals they really should kill every bird that just happens to be looking over their battle organization before a big invasion.

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So is John Snow going beyond the wall to try and kill Mance Radernation? Why wouldn't he take his sword? Maybe he is going to try and convince them he is still a Wild Thing.

That part makes no sense to me, unless he reunites somehow with Bran and both dogs.

So you think Mance's army would let a crow with a sword get near Mance?

Does Mance know that Snow betrayed them?

Pretty sure the dude spying on the Night Watchmen, via the owl, would have seen Jon Snow ...

That dude is dead.

That dude told Mance it was time to go...

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So is John Snow going beyond the wall to try and kill Mance Radernation? Why wouldn't he take his sword? Maybe he is going to try and convince them he is still a Wild Thing.

That part makes no sense to me, unless he reunites somehow with Bran and both dogs.

So you think Mance's army would let a crow with a sword get near Mance?

Does Mance know that Snow betrayed them?

Pretty sure the dude spying on the Night Watchmen, via the owl, would have seen Jon Snow ...

That dude is dead.

That dude told Mance it was time to go...

Was Mance in last night's show?

I thought that dude was in the raiding party with ginger minge.

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So is John Snow going beyond the wall to try and kill Mance Radernation? Why wouldn't he take his sword? Maybe he is going to try and convince them he is still a Wild Thing.

That part makes no sense to me, unless he reunites somehow with Bran and both dogs.

So you think Mance's army would let a crow with a sword get near Mance?

Does Mance know that Snow betrayed them?

Pretty sure the dude spying on the Night Watchmen, via the owl, would have seen Jon Snow ...

That dude is dead.

That dude told Mance it was time to go...

No, he was with the group south of the wall. They're all dead.

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Why the #### would there be a gate through the wall? If there's something bad enough that you need to built a wall that big to keep out then don't build a ####ing gate through it.

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Why the #### would there be a gate through the wall? If there's something bad enough that you need to built a wall that big to keep out then don't build a ####ing gate through it.

also, so they can ride out and beat up on any wildings attempting to dig under the wall, ect.

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So is John Snow going beyond the wall to try and kill Mance Radernation? Why wouldn't he take his sword? Maybe he is going to try and convince them he is still a Wild Thing.

That part makes no sense to me, unless he reunites somehow with Bran and both dogs.

So you think Mance's army would let a crow with a sword get near Mance?

Does Mance know that Snow betrayed them?

Pretty sure the dude spying on the Night Watchmen, via the owl, would have seen Jon Snow ...

That dude is dead.

+1 Pretty sure I saw him running around the field with a flaming arrow up his ####.

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Kind of amusing that the Knight's Watch simply watched that giant take his sweet time to punch through that metal wall and open it up. Like, maybe you guys could drop a rock on him? Something?

I thought about that too. My explanation parallels that justifying the flaming arrows - hard to see one dude 700 feet away in the middle of the night in the heat of battle.

Also didn't know why the team sent to secure the gate against said giant didn't have any ranged weapons to shoot through the bars of the inner gate. That might have helped.

They commented that the giant was shot with 20 arrows already and they had no effect.

yet 5 dudes with swords that amount to toothpicks to the giant were able to take him down.

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Why the #### would there be a gate through the wall? If there's something bad enough that you need to built a wall that big to keep out then don't build a ####ing gate through it.

This. I realize we need to suspend disbelief for a story that has giants and dragons. But if you're going to somehow build an ice wall that's over 700 ft. tall and over 300 miles long, it sort of defeats the entire purpose if you also include a ground level door for it. The tunnel should be higher up the wall and have an elevator, just like they do inside the wall.

It's also makes no sense for the enemy to send any troops up the wall instead of attacking the tunnel with everything they've got.

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Why the #### would there be a gate through the wall? If there's something bad enough that you need to built a wall that big to keep out then don't build a ####ing gate through it.

This. I realize we need to suspend disbelief for a story that has giants and dragons. But if you're going to somehow build an ice wall that's over 700 ft. tall and over 300 miles long, it sort of defeats the entire purpose if you also include a ground level door for it. The tunnel should be higher up the wall and have an elevator, just like they do inside the wall.

It's also makes no sense for the enemy to send any troops up the wall instead of attacking the tunnel with everything they've got.

There are a few problems with attempting to open the gate and attack through there.

First, the Crows could just continue to drop the bombs on anyone who attempted to open the gate. Eventually you may be able to break the gate, but at what cost. 5,000 men. 10,000 men. More? The wildlings aren't some close knit group. They could break at any time. Losing that many men to open a gate would be devastating.

Second, didn't you see 300? If you attack in that tunnel, your numbers mean nothing because the tunnels are narrow. Because the wildlings have no idea how many crows there are guarding the gate, you probably don't want to take that chance.

Third, because Manse was a former Crow, he had to suspect the possibility of them freezing the tunnel (as Jon Snow suggested). So you lose, a ton of men trying to open the outer gate only to find solid ice waiting behind.

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Pretty sure the dude spying on the Night Watchmen, via the owl, would have seen Jon Snow ...

In a world where multiple people can see through the eyes of animals they really should kill every bird that just happens to be looking over their battle organization before a big invasion.

I said this exact same thing while watching it. Why arn't they just killing every owl/bird that lands close to the wall?

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Can they even use that anchor again? It seemed like they had to break two seals to drop it. How hard is it going to be to reload that thing before the next night considering half the night's watch died. Or are there more of those anchors ready to go.

Sure seems like they exhausted the majority of their defenses already.

They said something like "Hoist it back up!" which implied to me they could use it again. It was encased in ice but there seemed to be a trigger mechanism that had to be release once the ice was gone.

Missed that part, thanks.

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Kind of amusing that the Knight's Watch simply watched that giant take his sweet time to punch through that metal wall and open it up. Like, maybe you guys could drop a rock on him? Something?

I thought about that too. My explanation parallels that justifying the flaming arrows - hard to see one dude 700 feet away in the middle of the night in the heat of battle.

Also didn't know why the team sent to secure the gate against said giant didn't have any ranged weapons to shoot through the bars of the inner gate. That might have helped.

They commented that the giant was shot with 20 arrows already and they had no effect.

yet 5 dudes with swords that amount to toothpicks to the giant were able to take him down.
everyone knows you have to be at least level 40 with level 50 two handed to beat a giant.
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Pretty sure the dude spying on the Night Watchmen, via the owl, would have seen Jon Snow ...

In a world where multiple people can see through the eyes of animals they really should kill every bird that just happens to be looking over their battle organization before a big invasion.

I said this exact same thing while watching it. Why arn't they just killing every owl/bird that lands close to the wall?

I think most people don't believe wargs exist.

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Pretty sure the dude spying on the Night Watchmen, via the owl, would have seen Jon Snow ...

In a world where multiple people can see through the eyes of animals they really should kill every bird that just happens to be looking over their battle organization before a big invasion.

I said this exact same thing while watching it. Why arn't they just killing every owl/bird that lands close to the wall?

I think most people don't believe wargs exist.

what about banks?
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Last night was probably the first time I felt myself thinking "jeez...is this thing almost over?" while watching GoT.

Good episode but an entire hour of LoTR-like fighting is too much.

Maybe you should stick to repeats of West Wing.

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Last night was probably the first time I felt myself thinking "jeez...is this thing almost over?" while watching GoT.

Good episode but an entire hour of LoTR-like fighting is too much.

i think an episode of Real Housewives may be on next week.
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Why the #### would there be a gate through the wall? If there's something bad enough that you need to built a wall that big to keep out then don't build a ####ing gate through it.

This. I realize we need to suspend disbelief for a story that has giants and dragons. But if you're going to somehow build an ice wall that's over 700 ft. tall and over 300 miles long, it sort of defeats the entire purpose if you also include a ground level door for it. The tunnel should be higher up the wall and have an elevator, just like they do inside the wall.

It's also makes no sense for the enemy to send any troops up the wall instead of attacking the tunnel with everything they've got.

There are a few problems with attempting to open the gate and attack through there.

First, the Crows could just continue to drop the bombs on anyone who attempted to open the gate. Eventually you may be able to break the gate, but at what cost. 5,000 men. 10,000 men. More? The wildlings aren't some close knit group. They could break at any time. Losing that many men to open a gate would be devastating.

Second, didn't you see 300? If you attack in that tunnel, your numbers mean nothing because the tunnels are narrow. Because the wildlings have no idea how many crows there are guarding the gate, you probably don't want to take that chance.

Third, because Manse was a former Crow, he had to suspect the possibility of them freezing the tunnel (as Jon Snow suggested). So you lose, a ton of men trying to open the outer gate only to find solid ice waiting behind.

Maybe Mance is pulling the old rope-a-dope and is actually riding around the Wall in an affort to pull an ol' number 6 on Castle Black?

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What I just don't understand, when you have a hot, bad ###, horny queen with dragons and you don't show her as much as possible. :shrug:

Because the show isn't watched exclusively by 13 year olds?

You wouldn't know it from reading this thread.

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Anyone else think Jon should've just stayed in that cave with his hot wilding woman?

I'd be all up in there right now, making little ginger babies and living off the land instead of making an unarmed death march towards an army of bad guys.

After a few long hot nights her tough guy routine would start to get really old. She was really annoying, I was glad to see her go.

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The only scene that left me flat was the candlelight chat with Maester Aemon. I didn't really get the point of that one, kinda similar to beetle chat last week. Usually when he's on screen we get some insight into important stuff, so it was a bit of a letdown when all he did was wax nostalgic about some chick. I guess I didn't really need presaging of the whole love lost thing because I knew what was coming, so maybe it did more for the pure show viewers?

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Good action but didnt feel like a game of thrones episode. Good guys won, not much was resolved, nobody we cared about died, and jon snow is heading back out again.

Ygritte killed one of the hapless crows we liked, then the kid killed her, and the crow that held the gate was one of the more likable ones. In typical GoT fashion, sir Janos slynt made it through. None of these dead guys are major players, but they had likable traits.

i don't know what it is, but i think i'm the only person who really liked the head of the Thens. Just seemed like a badass, was a shame he died.

also a little whacky that he slammed jon snow's head against that blacksmith anvil and he was fine like nothing happened, but i'm nit-picking, just pissy the giants and leader of the Thens died

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