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Game of Thrones, tv only, books don't exist, no backstory...NERDS already ruining a series that hasn't started (2 Viewers)

Gr00vus said:
El Floppo said:
KarmaPolice said:
STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
Sabertooth said:
KarmaPolice said:
sdp1226 said:
Jon really seems to attract them red heads.
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The question is why is the Red Priestess after him? I assume she needs him for something besides a good lay.
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Milk of the Poppy.
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Lol.I think she wants Jon to impregnate her so she can release another death dealer.
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She cant just do that with any bloke if that is the case, right?
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doesn't she talk about people having regal lineage or something?
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They need to have King's blood.
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Well he is black of hair..... And we don't know who his parents are

 
Chadstroma said:
Thunderlips said:
Spin said:
Man, I need to go rewatch the sand snakes scene again. I don't remember it being nearly as bad as is being said in here.
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If felt really chopped. They didn't build much of a relationship between them all or the woman, nor were they given any real personalities.
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It felt forced to me. It felt like they needed to introduce the Sand Snakes and that is what they came up with rather than being something that flowed well with the story.
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I don't remember much about it a few days later. I guess that's not good.
 
Spin said:
I had completely forgotten about him even being on the list. I had to google it, but you're right. He killed Syrio. Well, I don't think we actually see him get killed but we've seen Trant since, and I Syrio said something about never running. So it's pretty heavily implied Syrio died there.
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"The greatest swordsman in the world, killed by Meryn Trant!"

 
Chadstroma said:
Thunderlips said:
I'm convinced that L. Finger is a good guy. Sure, he settled a couple of beefs with the Starks over losing out on Cat when he was younger......but in the end, he really seems to be sticking it to the nobles. Finger is the ultimate bootstrap capitalist.
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You must be the only person in the world watching this series convinced that Littlefinger is a good guy.
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Even Littlefinger doesn't think Littlefinger is a good guy.

 
Thunderlips said:
Chadstroma said:
Thunderlips said:
Chadstroma said:
Thunderlips said:
Sabertooth said:
Same reason Littlefinger is hitting the road so quickly. To make sure he keeps his skin.
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I'm convinced that L. Finger is a good guy. Sure, he settled a couple of beefs with the Starks over losing out on Cat when he was younger......but in the end, he really seems to be sticking it to the nobles. Finger is the ultimate bootstrap capitalist.
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You must be the only person in the world watching this series convinced that Littlefinger is a good guy.
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Really? He seems to be the only one who thinks men should stand on the merit of their ability to act instead of their lineage. Nothing wrong with that. To your point though...I think I was also one of the very few who thought Tywin Lannister was in the right as well.....except for his disdain for Tyrion.

I think I'm probably one of the few who doesn't think Robert was a good guy as well.
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Going against the nepotism of the world and making it vs being a good guy are not really things I think have direct relation. You seem to think that it is ok if you are ruthless as long as you have other desirable character traits which apparently is greed/desire for power.

King Robert was sub par as a person. A lot of common negative traits that don't pair well with absolute power. He was, without a doubt, a horrible, horrible, horrible King (which I think he likely would agree with) though a better King than the one before and after him.

Tommen could be a good King if he finds his spine and grows in understanding of the world but likely he will be well dead before that happens.
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Who isn't ruthless in this story though?
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Ned. Cat. Sansa. Rob. Jon. Bran. Rickon. Dany. Blackfish. Tyrion. Tommen. Mycella. Jorah (he was being a slave trader and all but all we have seen of him is not ruthless). Maester Aemon. Samwell. Gilly. Barristan. Syrio. and there is more. But that is a good start.

 
Chadstroma said:
Thunderlips said:
Chadstroma said:
Thunderlips said:
Chadstroma said:
Thunderlips said:
Sabertooth said:
Same reason Littlefinger is hitting the road so quickly. To make sure he keeps his skin.
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I'm convinced that L. Finger is a good guy. Sure, he settled a couple of beefs with the Starks over losing out on Cat when he was younger......but in the end, he really seems to be sticking it to the nobles. Finger is the ultimate bootstrap capitalist.
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You must be the only person in the world watching this series convinced that Littlefinger is a good guy.
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Really? He seems to be the only one who thinks men should stand on the merit of their ability to act instead of their lineage. Nothing wrong with that. To your point though...I think I was also one of the very few who thought Tywin Lannister was in the right as well.....except for his disdain for Tyrion.

I think I'm probably one of the few who doesn't think Robert was a good guy as well.
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Going against the nepotism of the world and making it vs being a good guy are not really things I think have direct relation. You seem to think that it is ok if you are ruthless as long as you have other desirable character traits which apparently is greed/desire for power.

King Robert was sub par as a person. A lot of common negative traits that don't pair well with absolute power. He was, without a doubt, a horrible, horrible, horrible King (which I think he likely would agree with) though a better King than the one before and after him.

Tommen could be a good King if he finds his spine and grows in understanding of the world but likely he will be well dead before that happens.
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Who isn't ruthless in this story though?
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Ned. Cat. Sansa. Rob. Jon. Bran. Rickon. Dany. Blackfish. Tyrion. Tommen. Mycella. Jorah (he was being a slave trader and all but all we have seen of him is not ruthless). Maester Aemon. Samwell. Gilly. Barristan. Syrio. and there is more. But that is a good start.
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You forgot Sir Pounce, Hot Pie (after he became friends with Arya) and Gilly's baby.

One could argue that Jon's "playing" the ginger minge and Mance Ryder was a ruthless endeavor. Sansa seems to be in on L. Finger's game....so I'm not sure how innocent she it.

 
CBusAlex said:
Chadstroma said:
Thunderlips said:
I'm convinced that L. Finger is a good guy. Sure, he settled a couple of beefs with the Starks over losing out on Cat when he was younger......but in the end, he really seems to be sticking it to the nobles. Finger is the ultimate bootstrap capitalist.
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You must be the only person in the world watching this series convinced that Littlefinger is a good guy.
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Even Littlefinger doesn't think Littlefinger is a good guy.
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Don't be bringing book #### in here, guy.

 
Thunderlips said:
Chadstroma said:
Thunderlips said:
Chadstroma said:
Thunderlips said:
Chadstroma said:
Thunderlips said:
Sabertooth said:
Same reason Littlefinger is hitting the road so quickly. To make sure he keeps his skin.
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I'm convinced that L. Finger is a good guy. Sure, he settled a couple of beefs with the Starks over losing out on Cat when he was younger......but in the end, he really seems to be sticking it to the nobles. Finger is the ultimate bootstrap capitalist.
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You must be the only person in the world watching this series convinced that Littlefinger is a good guy.
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Really? He seems to be the only one who thinks men should stand on the merit of their ability to act instead of their lineage. Nothing wrong with that. To your point though...I think I was also one of the very few who thought Tywin Lannister was in the right as well.....except for his disdain for Tyrion.

I think I'm probably one of the few who doesn't think Robert was a good guy as well.
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Going against the nepotism of the world and making it vs being a good guy are not really things I think have direct relation. You seem to think that it is ok if you are ruthless as long as you have other desirable character traits which apparently is greed/desire for power.

King Robert was sub par as a person. A lot of common negative traits that don't pair well with absolute power. He was, without a doubt, a horrible, horrible, horrible King (which I think he likely would agree with) though a better King than the one before and after him.

Tommen could be a good King if he finds his spine and grows in understanding of the world but likely he will be well dead before that happens.
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Who isn't ruthless in this story though?
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Ned. Cat. Sansa. Rob. Jon. Bran. Rickon. Dany. Blackfish. Tyrion. Tommen. Mycella. Jorah (he was being a slave trader and all but all we have seen of him is not ruthless). Maester Aemon. Samwell. Gilly. Barristan. Syrio. and there is more. But that is a good start.
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You forgot Sir Pounce, Hot Pie (after he became friends with Arya) and Gilly's baby.

One could argue that Jon's "playing" the ginger minge and Mance Ryder was a ruthless endeavor. Sansa seems to be in on L. Finger's game....so I'm not sure how innocent she it.
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Ser Pounce?

 
Chadstroma said:
Thunderlips said:
Chadstroma said:
Thunderlips said:
Chadstroma said:
Thunderlips said:
Chadstroma said:
Thunderlips said:
Sabertooth said:
Same reason Littlefinger is hitting the road so quickly. To make sure he keeps his skin.
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I'm convinced that L. Finger is a good guy. Sure, he settled a couple of beefs with the Starks over losing out on Cat when he was younger......but in the end, he really seems to be sticking it to the nobles. Finger is the ultimate bootstrap capitalist.
Click to expand...
You must be the only person in the world watching this series convinced that Littlefinger is a good guy.
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Really? He seems to be the only one who thinks men should stand on the merit of their ability to act instead of their lineage. Nothing wrong with that. To your point though...I think I was also one of the very few who thought Tywin Lannister was in the right as well.....except for his disdain for Tyrion.

I think I'm probably one of the few who doesn't think Robert was a good guy as well.
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Going against the nepotism of the world and making it vs being a good guy are not really things I think have direct relation. You seem to think that it is ok if you are ruthless as long as you have other desirable character traits which apparently is greed/desire for power.

King Robert was sub par as a person. A lot of common negative traits that don't pair well with absolute power. He was, without a doubt, a horrible, horrible, horrible King (which I think he likely would agree with) though a better King than the one before and after him.

Tommen could be a good King if he finds his spine and grows in understanding of the world but likely he will be well dead before that happens.
Click to expand...
Who isn't ruthless in this story though?
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Ned. Cat. Sansa. Rob. Jon. Bran. Rickon. Dany. Blackfish. Tyrion. Tommen. Mycella. Jorah (he was being a slave trader and all but all we have seen of him is not ruthless). Maester Aemon. Samwell. Gilly. Barristan. Syrio. and there is more. But that is a good start.
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You forgot Sir Pounce, Hot Pie (after he became friends with Arya) and Gilly's baby.

One could argue that Jon's "playing" the ginger minge and Mance Ryder was a ruthless endeavor. Sansa seems to be in on L. Finger's game....so I'm not sure how innocent she it.
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Ser Pounce?
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Tommen's cat.

 
Thunderlips said:
Chadstroma said:
Thunderlips said:
Chadstroma said:
Thunderlips said:
Chadstroma said:
Thunderlips said:
Chadstroma said:
Thunderlips said:
Sabertooth said:
Same reason Littlefinger is hitting the road so quickly. To make sure he keeps his skin.
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I'm convinced that L. Finger is a good guy. Sure, he settled a couple of beefs with the Starks over losing out on Cat when he was younger......but in the end, he really seems to be sticking it to the nobles. Finger is the ultimate bootstrap capitalist.
Click to expand...
You must be the only person in the world watching this series convinced that Littlefinger is a good guy.
Click to expand...
Really? He seems to be the only one who thinks men should stand on the merit of their ability to act instead of their lineage. Nothing wrong with that. To your point though...I think I was also one of the very few who thought Tywin Lannister was in the right as well.....except for his disdain for Tyrion.

I think I'm probably one of the few who doesn't think Robert was a good guy as well.
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Going against the nepotism of the world and making it vs being a good guy are not really things I think have direct relation. You seem to think that it is ok if you are ruthless as long as you have other desirable character traits which apparently is greed/desire for power.King Robert was sub par as a person. A lot of common negative traits that don't pair well with absolute power. He was, without a doubt, a horrible, horrible, horrible King (which I think he likely would agree with) though a better King than the one before and after him.

Tommen could be a good King if he finds his spine and grows in understanding of the world but likely he will be well dead before that happens.
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Who isn't ruthless in this story though?
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Ned. Cat. Sansa. Rob. Jon. Bran. Rickon. Dany. Blackfish. Tyrion. Tommen. Mycella. Jorah (he was being a slave trader and all but all we have seen of him is not ruthless). Maester Aemon. Samwell. Gilly. Barristan. Syrio. and there is more. But that is a good start.
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You forgot Sir Pounce, Hot Pie (after he became friends with Arya) and Gilly's baby. One could argue that Jon's "playing" the ginger minge and Mance Ryder was a ruthless endeavor. Sansa seems to be in on L. Finger's game....so I'm not sure how innocent she it.
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Ser Pounce?
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Tommen's cat.
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STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
You guys are not alone in the theory about the truth about Jon Snow's parents.
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There are no others. Just us guys and gals that watch a TV show.

The more I think about, the more I am convinced that Job is Rhaegar and Lyanna's child. The only thing that gives me pause is as someone else brought up.... why not tell Cat?

The easy explanation to that though it to protect her, his nephew and to keep appearances up. Remember, Jon's life was at stake. Further, another thought is why Ned would have been so willing to go against killing Dany than just his honor. It was also, in a way, protecting his nephew.

 
Thunderlips said:
Chadstroma said:
Thunderlips said:
Chadstroma said:
Thunderlips said:
Chadstroma said:
Thunderlips said:
Chadstroma said:
Thunderlips said:
Sabertooth said:
Same reason Littlefinger is hitting the road so quickly. To make sure he keeps his skin.
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I'm convinced that L. Finger is a good guy. Sure, he settled a couple of beefs with the Starks over losing out on Cat when he was younger......but in the end, he really seems to be sticking it to the nobles. Finger is the ultimate bootstrap capitalist.
Click to expand...
You must be the only person in the world watching this series convinced that Littlefinger is a good guy.
Click to expand...
Really? He seems to be the only one who thinks men should stand on the merit of their ability to act instead of their lineage. Nothing wrong with that. To your point though...I think I was also one of the very few who thought Tywin Lannister was in the right as well.....except for his disdain for Tyrion.

I think I'm probably one of the few who doesn't think Robert was a good guy as well.
Click to expand...
Going against the nepotism of the world and making it vs being a good guy are not really things I think have direct relation. You seem to think that it is ok if you are ruthless as long as you have other desirable character traits which apparently is greed/desire for power.

King Robert was sub par as a person. A lot of common negative traits that don't pair well with absolute power. He was, without a doubt, a horrible, horrible, horrible King (which I think he likely would agree with) though a better King than the one before and after him.

Tommen could be a good King if he finds his spine and grows in understanding of the world but likely he will be well dead before that happens.
Click to expand...
Who isn't ruthless in this story though?
Click to expand...
Ned. Cat. Sansa. Rob. Jon. Bran. Rickon. Dany. Blackfish. Tyrion. Tommen. Mycella. Jorah (he was being a slave trader and all but all we have seen of him is not ruthless). Maester Aemon. Samwell. Gilly. Barristan. Syrio. and there is more. But that is a good start.
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You forgot Sir Pounce, Hot Pie (after he became friends with Arya) and Gilly's baby.

One could argue that Jon's "playing" the ginger minge and Mance Ryder was a ruthless endeavor. Sansa seems to be in on L. Finger's game....so I'm not sure how innocent she it.
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Ser Pounce?
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Tommen's cat.
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:rant:

 
I don't mean the "people of the book". I did a quick google search and there are a lot of people speculating as we are in here. I did not go in further as I want to avoid all spoilers.

I'm just confirming that you/we're not crazy thinking who Jons parents are.

 
STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
I don't mean the "people of the book". I did a quick google search and there are a lot of people speculating as we are in here. I did not go in further as I want to avoid all spoilers.

I'm just confirming that you/we're not crazy thinking who Jons parents are.
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We need a new thread for internet readers.

 
bigmarc27 said:
STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
I don't mean the "people of the book". I did a quick google search and there are a lot of people speculating as we are in here. I did not go in further as I want to avoid all spoilers.

I'm just confirming that you/we're not crazy thinking who Jons parents are.
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We need a new thread for internet readers.
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:thumbup:

I think we would be run out of Footballguystown if we started another thread on GOT. :no:

 
LAUNCH said:
joey said:
Mile High said:
Chadstroma said:
Thunderlips said:
Spin said:
Man, I need to go rewatch the sand snakes scene again. I don't remember it being nearly as bad as is being said in here.
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If felt really chopped. They didn't build much of a relationship between them all or the woman, nor were they given any real personalities.
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It felt forced to me. It felt like they needed to introduce the Sand Snakes and that is what they came up with rather than being something that flowed well with the story.
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They messed up all the way around on the Sand Snakes. Cut out the most important one.
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I've stated clearly in this thread that I stink with names, so maybe I've forgotten it already in only one day, but did the tv show actually use the name "Sand Snakes" and I just missed it, or does their name come from knowledge outside of what we've seen already in the tv show?

(Not complaining in a "tv vs. books" way, just wondering how horrible my attention to detail has really gotten these days)
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Ellaria (Oberon's girl) mentioned them to Doran (the guy in the wheel chair overlooking the Water Garden. Sand (******* children from Dorne) - Snake (Oberon was the Red Viper)
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Thanks. Knew I must've missed something there. -

And, not to pile on, but I totally agree that that scene with the Sand Snakes was a total eye-roller. Right down to the spear-throw-through-the-head exclamation point instead of just saying, "yeah, sure. I'll avenge his death".

Besides that, that episode was killer. Feels like some major #### is gonna hit the fan in Winterfell before the season is through.

 
Chadstroma said:
STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
You guys are not alone in the theory about the truth about Jon Snow's parents.
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There are no others. Just us guys and gals that watch a TV show.

The more I think about, the more I am convinced that Job is Rhaegar and Lyanna's child. The only thing that gives me pause is as someone else brought up.... why not tell Cat?

The easy explanation to that though it to protect her, his nephew and to keep appearances up. Remember, Jon's life was at stake. Further, another thought is why Ned would have been so willing to go against killing Dany than just his honor. It was also, in a way, protecting his nephew.
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Rewatch the first episode where Robert talks about killing all the Targaryans to Ned.....there's more than a couple of weird looks that are thrown about.

 
KarmaPolice said:
Whomper said:
Cat was always angered and disgusted by the sight of Jon Snow. Don't you think Ned would have at least told Cat that Jon wasn't his biological child if that were the case ? We may need to call in Lord Maury Povich to settle this dilemma
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Ned was noble to a fault. If he promised to keep a secret, i can see him keeping it even from Cat. Especially if it is one of the magnitude that we are talking. It did seem like he had the intention of telling Jon soon, maybe when he was old enough to make a decision about what to do with whatever knowledge Ned was going to drop on him.
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All Targaryens that did not escape were slaughtered. If Robert had found out that Jon has Targaryen blood, he too would have been killed. Ned had to keep it a secret.

 
Mile High said:
Chadstroma said:
Thunderlips said:
Spin said:
Man, I need to go rewatch the sand snakes scene again. I don't remember it being nearly as bad as is being said in here.
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If felt really chopped. They didn't build much of a relationship between them all or the woman, nor were they given any real personalities.
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It felt forced to me. It felt like they needed to introduce the Sand Snakes and that is what they came up with rather than being something that flowed well with the story.
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They messed up all the way around on the Sand Snakes. Cut out the most important one.
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:confused:

 
Watching it again with the wife (she has not seen it)

I knew this would be a good one right away from the first moment of the first scene - when the boatsman is knocked cold by Jorah. Exactly like punching someone out in a third person "shooter" - hell, was wolfensteinian.

 
bigmarc27 said:
STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
I don't mean the "people of the book". I did a quick google search and there are a lot of people speculating as we are in here. I did not go in further as I want to avoid all spoilers.

I'm just confirming that you/we're not crazy thinking who Jons parents are.
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We need a new thread for internet readers.
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I didn't even click the links, was just too curious to see if others had come to this revelation as well.

I won't rock the boat.

 
CBusAlex said:
Spin said:
I had completely forgotten about him even being on the list. I had to google it, but you're right. He killed Syrio. Well, I don't think we actually see him get killed but we've seen Trant since, and I Syrio said something about never running. So it's pretty heavily implied Syrio died there.
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"The greatest swordsman in the world, killed by Meryn Trant!"
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Great line. :lmao:
 
CBusAlex said:
Chadstroma said:
Thunderlips said:
I'm convinced that L. Finger is a good guy. Sure, he settled a couple of beefs with the Starks over losing out on Cat when he was younger......but in the end, he really seems to be sticking it to the nobles. Finger is the ultimate bootstrap capitalist.
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You must be the only person in the world watching this series convinced that Littlefinger is a good guy.
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Even Littlefinger doesn't think Littlefinger is a good guy.
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For real
 
Chadstroma said:
STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
You guys are not alone in the theory about the truth about Jon Snow's parents.
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There are no others. Just us guys and gals that watch a TV show.The more I think about, the more I am convinced that Job is Rhaegar and Lyanna's child. The only thing that gives me pause is as someone else brought up.... why not tell Cat?

The easy explanation to that though it to protect her, his nephew and to keep appearances up. Remember, Jon's life was at stake. Further, another thought is why Ned would have been so willing to go against killing Dany than just his honor. It was also, in a way, protecting his nephew.
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That is definitely coming from the books. No way to know all of that unless someone has been reading the books and has more of the back story.
 
flapgreen said:
Chadstroma said:
STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
You guys are not alone in the theory about the truth about Jon Snow's parents.
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There are no others. Just us guys and gals that watch a TV show.The more I think about, the more I am convinced that Job is Rhaegar and Lyanna's child. The only thing that gives me pause is as someone else brought up.... why not tell Cat?

The easy explanation to that though it to protect her, his nephew and to keep appearances up. Remember, Jon's life was at stake. Further, another thought is why Ned would have been so willing to go against killing Dany than just his honor. It was also, in a way, protecting his nephew.
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That is definitely coming from the books. No way to know all of that unless someone has been reading the books and has more of the back story.
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To be fair, if you watch the "previously on....."......they kind of hit you over the head with what you should be paying attention to in the current week's show. With the conversation about Lyanna in the crypt, the conversation about what a good person Rhaegar was and Melisandre's interest in Jon Snow (with IIRC, a veiled comment about Stark's lineage)..is it that much of a stretch to think someone would start to think something might be up?

 
So Lyanna gets kidnapped for long enough to have a baby. Which started a war.

How did she die again?

 
flapgreen said:
Chadstroma said:
STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
You guys are not alone in the theory about the truth about Jon Snow's parents.
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There are no others. Just us guys and gals that watch a TV show.The more I think about, the more I am convinced that Job is Rhaegar and Lyanna's child. The only thing that gives me pause is as someone else brought up.... why not tell Cat?

The easy explanation to that though it to protect her, his nephew and to keep appearances up. Remember, Jon's life was at stake. Further, another thought is why Ned would have been so willing to go against killing Dany than just his honor. It was also, in a way, protecting his nephew.
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That is definitely coming from the books. No way to know all of that unless someone has been reading the books and has more of the back story.
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Never picked up a book.

I did poke around the Wiki a bit too much before but after coming across things like Cat dieing, the Red Wedding and Littlefinger ascension in the Veil before it came up in the show.... I stopped poking around there.

Never came across anything about Jon though. Only one piece of backstory that I came across that could possibly be tied to this (which is some back story of Ned trying to save Lyanna during the war) but nothing that links the two.

So, all of this is thinking through the show.

 
Also- I would not say that I "know it". It is speculation. I am more convinced thinking through the clues that speculation is right on the money but I have no idea to be sure.

 
Wow. That's a great theory about Jon Snow's true lineage. If Martin didn't write that he should have. Of course if true and he hooks up with Dany before he finds out she's his aunt...well I guess that is the Targaryen way...

 
joey said:
LAUNCH said:
joey said:
Mile High said:
Chadstroma said:
Thunderlips said:
Spin said:
Man, I need to go rewatch the sand snakes scene again. I don't remember it being nearly as bad as is being said in here.
Click to expand...
If felt really chopped. They didn't build much of a relationship between them all or the woman, nor were they given any real personalities.
Click to expand...
It felt forced to me. It felt like they needed to introduce the Sand Snakes and that is what they came up with rather than being something that flowed well with the story.
Click to expand...
They messed up all the way around on the Sand Snakes. Cut out the most important one.
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I've stated clearly in this thread that I stink with names, so maybe I've forgotten it already in only one day, but did the tv show actually use the name "Sand Snakes" and I just missed it, or does their name come from knowledge outside of what we've seen already in the tv show?(Not complaining in a "tv vs. books" way, just wondering how horrible my attention to detail has really gotten these days)
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Ellaria (Oberon's girl) mentioned them to Doran (the guy in the wheel chair overlooking the Water Garden. Sand (******* children from Dorne) - Snake (Oberon was the Red Viper)
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Thanks. Knew I must've missed something there. -And, not to pile on, but I totally agree that that scene with the Sand Snakes was a total eye-roller. Right down to the spear-throw-through-the-head exclamation point instead of just saying, "yeah, sure. I'll avenge his death".

Besides that, that episode was killer. Feels like some major #### is gonna hit the fan in Winterfell before the season is through.
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Just finished watching again. Yeah, that scene was terrible. The fight scene on the beach didn't look different than any other to me, though. As far as the final battle with the clown faces, Barristan and Worm did take out a lot more guys than I first thought. Those guys were everywhere. As was also mentioned earlier, I don't know why Grey Worm was patrolling the streets. He's supposed to be the leader. No reason for him to be down there. The ending made it look like Barristan died but Worm might live. Hard to say. That pisses me of because I liked Barristan, too.

 
flapgreen said:
joey said:
LAUNCH said:
joey said:
Mile High said:
Chadstroma said:
Thunderlips said:
Spin said:
Man, I need to go rewatch the sand snakes scene again. I don't remember it being nearly as bad as is being said in here.
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If felt really chopped. They didn't build much of a relationship between them all or the woman, nor were they given any real personalities.
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It felt forced to me. It felt like they needed to introduce the Sand Snakes and that is what they came up with rather than being something that flowed well with the story.
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They messed up all the way around on the Sand Snakes. Cut out the most important one.
Click to expand...
I've stated clearly in this thread that I stink with names, so maybe I've forgotten it already in only one day, but did the tv show actually use the name "Sand Snakes" and I just missed it, or does their name come from knowledge outside of what we've seen already in the tv show?(Not complaining in a "tv vs. books" way, just wondering how horrible my attention to detail has really gotten these days)
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Ellaria (Oberon's girl) mentioned them to Doran (the guy in the wheel chair overlooking the Water Garden. Sand (******* children from Dorne) - Snake (Oberon was the Red Viper)
Click to expand...
Thanks. Knew I must've missed something there. -And, not to pile on, but I totally agree that that scene with the Sand Snakes was a total eye-roller. Right down to the spear-throw-through-the-head exclamation point instead of just saying, "yeah, sure. I'll avenge his death".

Besides that, that episode was killer. Feels like some major #### is gonna hit the fan in Winterfell before the season is through.
Click to expand...
Just finished watching again. Yeah, that scene was terrible. The fight scene on the beach didn't look different than any other to me, though. As far as the final battle with the clown faces, Barristan and Worm did take out a lot more guys than I first thought. Those guys were everywhere. As was also mentioned earlier, I don't know why Grey Worm was patrolling the streets. He's supposed to be the leader. No reason for him to be down there. The ending made it look like Barristan died but Worm might live. Hard to say. That pisses me of because I liked Barristan, too.
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Jorah will come back and take his place.

 
flapgreen said:
joey said:
LAUNCH said:
joey said:
Mile High said:
Chadstroma said:
Thunderlips said:
Spin said:
Man, I need to go rewatch the sand snakes scene again. I don't remember it being nearly as bad as is being said in here.
Click to expand...
If felt really chopped. They didn't build much of a relationship between them all or the woman, nor were they given any real personalities.
Click to expand...
It felt forced to me. It felt like they needed to introduce the Sand Snakes and that is what they came up with rather than being something that flowed well with the story.
Click to expand...
They messed up all the way around on the Sand Snakes. Cut out the most important one.
Click to expand...
I've stated clearly in this thread that I stink with names, so maybe I've forgotten it already in only one day, but did the tv show actually use the name "Sand Snakes" and I just missed it, or does their name come from knowledge outside of what we've seen already in the tv show?(Not complaining in a "tv vs. books" way, just wondering how horrible my attention to detail has really gotten these days)
Click to expand...
Ellaria (Oberon's girl) mentioned them to Doran (the guy in the wheel chair overlooking the Water Garden. Sand (******* children from Dorne) - Snake (Oberon was the Red Viper)
Click to expand...
Thanks. Knew I must've missed something there. -And, not to pile on, but I totally agree that that scene with the Sand Snakes was a total eye-roller. Right down to the spear-throw-through-the-head exclamation point instead of just saying, "yeah, sure. I'll avenge his death".

Besides that, that episode was killer. Feels like some major #### is gonna hit the fan in Winterfell before the season is through.
Click to expand...
Just finished watching again. Yeah, that scene was terrible. The fight scene on the beach didn't look different than any other to me, though.As far as the final battle with the clown faces, Barristan and Worm did take out a lot more guys than I first thought. Those guys were everywhere. As was also mentioned earlier, I don't know why Grey Worm was patrolling the streets. He's supposed to be the leader. No reason for him to be down there. The ending made it look like Barristan died but Worm might live. Hard to say. That pisses me of because I liked Barristan, too.
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I just watched the episode again- Barristan killed 12 not counting the one or two he killed before taking on the crowd.

 
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