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Official Johnny Manziel Thread (3 Viewers)

Rotoworld:

ESPN's Ed Werder stated on SportsCenter Thursday that he expects Texas A&M QB Johnny Manziel to be drafted within the top-seven picks.
"He's not expected to be on the board past the No. 7 pick, which belongs to Tampa Bay," said Werder. It's worth noting several national reporters were adamant at this time last year that Ryan Nassib would go No. 8 to Buffalo. So we strongly encourage you to keep things in perspective and insert grains of salt. But all signs point to Tampa Bay maintaining strong interest in Manziel.

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Rotoworld:

ESPN's Todd McShay stated on SportsCenter Thursday that Johnny Manziel is the No. 1 player on the Cowboys' draft board.
"I'm told by two different people that he's the No. 1 player on their board," were McShay's exact words. The Cowboys draft at No. 16 overall. We don't anticipate Manziel lasting that long, but suppose it's possible Dallas would pull the trigger in the unlikely event "JFF" were available, purely from a best-player-available standpoint. Meanwhile, noted Johnny Football skeptic Ron Jaworski predicted early Thursday that Manziel won't be drafted in the first round at all.

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Grahamburn said:
Faust said:
Rotoworld:

NFL executives tell draft insider Tony Pauline that if Texas A&M QB Johnny Manziel is selected in the first eight picks on Thursday, it will be by "decree of the owner rather than the scouting department or general manager."
"One insider told me the feeling amongst the 32 general managers is the hope Manziel is gone before they are called to the clock so there’s no discussion or distraction of selecting the signal caller," Pauline wrote. "I’m told nowhere is this more apparent than Tampa Bay where owners are pushing for Manziel but wish of head coach Lovie Smith is defensive tackle Aaron Donald." NFL decision makers with a selection near the top of Thursday's first round prefer to wait until the second wave of QB prospects go off the board at the beginning of Day 2, but the only decision maker that matters, in the end, is the dude writing the checks. Get your popcorn ready.

Source: TFY Draft Insider
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The Glazers promised Lovie complete control over player personnel when he was hired. Overruling him on the first draft pick he ever makes wouldn't be a good start to his tenure as Head Coach.
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Yea...can't imagine that story above happening...or Lovie would already be looking for a way out.

 
Andy Dufresne said:
Dr. Octopus said:
Andy Dufresne said:
pantherclub said:
who the hell is asking Brady Quinn for his effing opinion?
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I can't agree with much that you've typed in here...but I had the exact same reaction to this.

Why does Brady Quinn know a good QB when he sees one?
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Being a bad NFL QB doesn't necessarily mean the guy can't be a good evaluator of talent. Hell, it doesn't even mean that the guy doesn't know everything there is to know about how to play QB - it just means he wasn't physically capable or mentally strong enough on the field.

Everyone respects Mike Mayock'e evaluations, but the guy wasn't exactly a Hall of Fame caliber DB.
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Of course not. But it was just so random. And the article was so definite about it "Brady Quinn sure knows his QBs". There's no proof of that.

Mayock has shown to be a decent-to-good evaluator of talent.
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I saw Quinn discussing QB prospects on an NFL Network Path to the Draft show (perhaps realizing that an inevitable forced retirement was coming soon).

I'm not sure if he is a good evaluator, but he seemed credible and knowledgeable, and unlike some former athletes, he seemed a natural in front of the camera.

 
Faust said:
Rotoworld:

ESPN's Todd McShay stated on SportsCenter Thursday that Johnny Manziel is the No. 1 player on the Cowboys' draft board.
"I'm told by two different people that he's the No. 1 player on their board," were McShay's exact words. The Cowboys draft at No. 16 overall. We don't anticipate Manziel lasting that long, but suppose it's possible Dallas would pull the trigger in the unlikely event "JFF" were available, purely from a best-player-available standpoint. Meanwhile, noted Johnny Football skeptic Ron Jaworski predicted early Thursday that Manziel won't be drafted in the first round at all.

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The world would explode in awesomeness if this happened. Thus, it cannot happen.

 
Faust said:
Rotoworld:

ESPN's Todd McShay stated on SportsCenter Thursday that Johnny Manziel is the No. 1 player on the Cowboys' draft board.
"I'm told by two different people that he's the No. 1 player on their board," were McShay's exact words. The Cowboys draft at No. 16 overall. We don't anticipate Manziel lasting that long, but suppose it's possible Dallas would pull the trigger in the unlikely event "JFF" were available, purely from a best-player-available standpoint. Meanwhile, noted Johnny Football skeptic Ron Jaworski predicted early Thursday that Manziel won't be drafted in the first round at all.

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I like Jaws, but that's just stupid to say he won't get drafted in the 1st round. Saying, "he shouldn't get drafted in the 1st round," is not the same as, "he won't get drafted in the 1st round."

 
Rotoworld:

ESPN's Ed Werder tweeted Thursday that he isn't buying the report of Dallas having Johnny Manziel at No. 1 on its draft board.
In an instance of ESPN-on-ESPN crime, Werder is disputing the report of Todd McShay, who stated on SportsCenter early Thursday he was "told by two different people that (Johnny Football) is the No. 1 player on (the Cowboys') board." Werder conceded owner Jerry Jones "undeniably loves" Manziel. We still have a very hard time buying defense-needy Dallas would draft Manziel, even if he slipped to 16. Tony Romo's cap-killing contract makes it almost unjustifiable.

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Source: Ed Werder on Twitter
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FOX's Jay Glazer says the Bucs will not use the No. 7 overall pick on Texas A&M QB Johnny Manziel.
The final days and hours before the draft starts are annually full of false rumors. But this one carries weight because Glazer is almost never off in his reporting. He also previously said that the Browns wouldn't use the No. 4 pick on Manziel, and the Raiders would pass on him at 5 also. Perhaps it's worth noting that Glazer hasn't ruled out the Jags, who are desperate for both a quarterback and ticket sales. They hold the No. 3 overall pick.

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Source: Jay Glazer on Twitter
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A person with "knowledge of the team's draft philosophy" told NJ.com the Giants would "seriously consider" Johnny Manziel if he slipped to No. 12.
Giants GM Jerry Reese is an ardent believer in best-player-available strategy. Reporter Jordan Raanan admits, however, that the Giants "could be feigning interest" in Johnny Football "to coax a trade from a team that wants to move up to No. 12 for Manziel." The takeaway from this report is essentially that we know little about NFL teams' draft plans. We doubt Manziel will be a Giant.

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Source: Newark Star-Ledger
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A person with "knowledge of the team's draft philosophy" told NJ.com the Giants would "seriously consider" Johnny Manziel if he slipped to No. 12.
Giants GM Jerry Reese is an ardent believer in best-player-available strategy. Reporter Jordan Raanan admits, however, that the Giants "could be feigning interest" in Johnny Football "to coax a trade from a team that wants to move up to No. 12 for Manziel." The takeaway from this report is essentially that we know little about NFL teams' draft plans. We doubt Manziel will be a Giant.

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Translation: If he's available at 12, please get on the phone to give us your best offer so we can trade back. There is no way the Giants pick Manziel.
 
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Rotoworld:

According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, the "widespread feeling" around the league is that Johnny Manziel will come off the board between No. 3 and No. 13.
Schefter lists the Jaguars at No. 3, the Bucs at No. 7, the Vikings at No. 8 and the Rams at No. 13 as Manziel's most likely suitors. According to ESPN's Ed Werder, "some people in the league" who know Texans coach Bill O'Brien "well" believe he wants to take Manziel at No. 1 overall, but "can't justify doing so" with Jadeveon Clowney and Khalil Mack on the board. Werder hinted Manziel could be a possibility for the Texans in a trade down. Browns coach Mike Pettine has said Manziel is "in the discussion" at No. 4.

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Manziel to St. Louis w/pick 2. Thus spake Greg Cosell. Seemed pretty sure it was the right move. Pound the rock and make things happen on third down ala Seattle and SF. Maybe that's the "Behemoth" thing people were talking about in another thread...

Pretty cool for an old guy like me if the league went back to being a running game.

 
Faust said:
Johnny Manziel-to-Cowboys talk heating up prior to NFL draft
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If he falls to Dallas, I predict Jerry takes him remembering what happened when he didn't take Moss over a decade ago.

Andy Dufresne said:
Faust said:
Casserly: Manziel by far the most overrated player in the draft
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"Please acknowledge my relevance!"
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Casserly is a moron of epic proportions. The fact that this guy was even a GM shows that it doesn't take a lot of brains to be one. It takes a lot of burying your face in the owners ###.

 
Rotoworld:

NFL.com's Ian Rapoport reports Johnny Manziel is in play for the Vikings at No. 8, and that owner Zygi Wilf's brain trust is flying in for a Thursday afternoon meeting where the "call will be made."
It's notable because it suggests Wilf might overrule his football people. There have been signs the Vikes are leaning defense at No. 8, but ESPN's Adam Schefter has also listed them as a possibility for Manziel. We'd be far from surprised if Wilf took the unwise step of inserting himself in the draft process.

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ESPN's Adam Schefter reported Thursday the Jaguars are "absolutely intrigued" by Johnny Manziel, and "will consider him" at No. 3 overall.
Jacksonville is one of the toughest teams to peg in the top five. Some believe they'll take Sammy Watkins, others Khalil Mack. We certainly wouldn't rule out a quarterback pick, as it's a clearly-deficient position on the Jaguars, who are building in Seattle's likeness. Manziel could be Jacksonville's Russell Wilson, complemented by an improving defense and Toby Gerhart as the workhorse.

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lod01 said:
Faust said:
Johnny Manziel-to-Cowboys talk heating up prior to NFL draft
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If he falls to Dallas, I predict Jerry takes him remembering what happened when he didn't take Moss over a decade ago.

Andy Dufresne said:
Faust said:
Casserly: Manziel by far the most overrated player in the draft
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"Please acknowledge my relevance!"
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Casserly is a moron of epic proportions. The fact that this guy was even a GM shows that it doesn't take a lot of brains to be one. It takes a lot of burying your face in the owners ###.
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Wrong forum

 
Rotoworld:

FOX Sports' Jay Glazer's "best guess" for Johnny Manziel's landing spot is the Cardinals at No. 20.
Glazer did not elaborate, but even when he guesses, it's worth listening. ESPN's Adam Schefter has reported Manziel is unlikely to fall past No. 13, so this is just further indication of how little anyone really knows about what is going to happen Thursday evening. We're set for our most wide-open draft in ages.

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Sabertooth said:
lod01 said:
Faust said:
Johnny Manziel-to-Cowboys talk heating up prior to NFL draft
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If he falls to Dallas, I predict Jerry takes him remembering what happened when he didn't take Moss over a decade ago.

Andy Dufresne said:
Faust said:
Casserly: Manziel by far the most overrated player in the draft
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"Please acknowledge my relevance!"
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Casserly is a moron of epic proportions. The fact that this guy was even a GM shows that it doesn't take a lot of brains to be one. It takes a lot of burying your face in the owners ###.
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Wrong forum
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If you are in the wrong forum, then don't tell us just go there.

 
With the NFL's history of QB-needy teams reaching for QBs, I'll be very surprised if Manziel doesn't go top ten.

 
Rotoworld:

ESPN's Adam Schefter reported Thursday evening the Vikings are a "team to watch" for Texas A&M QB Johnny Manziel.
Per Schefter, Manziel "would be an attractive pick to the Minnesota Vikings." The Vikes have a big quarterback need, but new OC Norv Turner's history is almost strictly with pocket passers as opposed to dual threats like Johnny Football, and it's believed Minnesota will ultimately draft a defender at No. 8.

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Faust said:
Rotoworld:

ESPN's Adam Schefter reported Thursday evening the Vikings are a "team to watch" for Texas A&M QB Johnny Manziel.

Per Schefter, Manziel "would be an attractive pick to the Minnesota Vikings." The Vikes have a big quarterback need, but new OC Norv Turner's history is almost strictly with pocket passers as opposed to dual threats like Johnny Football, and it's believed Minnesota will ultimately draft a defender at No. 8.

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Albert Breer ‏@AlbertBreer 9m

Point raised to me on Norv/Manziel fit for Vikes back in March: Turner made his offense work for Doug Flutie, Alex Smith. Can work for JFF

 
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