but if I'm Zimmerman, I'm not even making a finger gun after all of this.I do not believe her for a second. That seems like the world's easiest out for her...
I don't want to see him do hard time... but he definitely needs some training on when use of lethal force is justified and the implications of using it, or even threatening to use it, in situations where it is not justified. This was just stupidity, pure and simple.This
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Hope he does hard time for this. Sort of in the vain of the OJ thing.
"Police say Shellie told them that Zimmerman had his hand on his gun and became aggressive, then punched her father. "I don't want to see him do hard time... but he definitely needs some training on when use of lethal force is justified and the implications of using it, or even threatening to use it, in situations where it is not justified. This was just stupidity, pure and simple.This
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Hope he does hard time for this. Sort of in the vain of the OJ thing.
No, no, no... Never take away anyone's guns. Suspend his right to possess them and put him through some more rigorous training, which should also include legal - both criminal and civil - implications of using them. Every cop also carries pepper spray... For a reason. So they have one more less lethal option. This Zimmerman guy, though, from what I heard of this most recent incident, just doesn't "get it" with respect to when use of lethal force is justified. Great way to lose you LTC in MA is to threaten use of lethal force - especially by unconcealing your weapon - in non life-threatening situations. Really. Carry the pepper spray. If some #####, like that "Ball Son Urchin" character, or whatever his name was, comes at you saying he's going to go give you a beating,.. Make no threats, just spray his ###. If that doesn't stop him and he's hell-bent on causing you harm.,. Put one or two in center mass. Be sure to be heard... Yell, "stop!" And so forth before firing because people remember what they heard much better than what they saw. And be prepared to be on TV with Ball Son Urchin's mother telling everyone how Son Urchin is just getting his #### together and would never hurt anyone, etc.So...can we take away his weapon now? He doesn't seem like the type of person that should be allowed to carry.
What out are we thinking she is trying to get? She already stood by him during the trial. I actually think it is a smart move on her and Z's part. If she is divorced she could sell the rights to a book and make a ton of $$ off of it, and it would be exempt from the possible suit from the Martins?I do not believe her for a second. That seems like the world's easiest out for her...
Doesn't really matterJumping to conclusions with very limited info worked our pretty well last time, no reason not to do it again.
"Police say Shellie told them that Zimmerman had his hand on his gun and became aggressive, then punched her father. "I don't want to see him do hard time... but he definitely needs some training on when use of lethal force is justified and the implications of using it, or even threatening to use it, in situations where it is not justified. This was just stupidity, pure and simple.This
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Hope he does hard time for this. Sort of in the vain of the OJ thing.
This doesn't sound like his gun even left its holster.
Not to people who've already tried and convicted him, again, but to others it might.Doesn't really matterJumping to conclusions with very limited info worked our pretty well last time, no reason not to do it again.
"Police say Shellie told them that Zimmerman had his hand on his gun and became aggressive, then punched her father. "I don't want to see him do hard time... but he definitely needs some training on when use of lethal force is justified and the implications of using it, or even threatening to use it, in situations where it is not justified. This was just stupidity, pure and simple.This
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Hope he does hard time for this. Sort of in the vain of the OJ thing.
This doesn't sound like his gun even left its holster.
I think he has played his benefit of the doubt cardInnocent until proven guilty down?
I was thinking something similar. Zimmerman will be like OJ, get off for one thing and get locked up for some other stupid thing.I bet OJ is in prison thinking "wow, that Zimmerman is a real dumb ###".
Right, if we are arguing and I reveal my holstered gun and put my hand on it, that's a pretty serious threat. Certainly more of a threat Trayvon ever presented. Zimmerman is lucky his girl didnt pull a gun and shoot him.Doesn't really matterJumping to conclusions with very limited info worked our pretty well last time, no reason not to do it again.
"Police say Shellie told them that Zimmerman had his hand on his gun and became aggressive, then punched her father. "This doesn't sound like his gun even left its holster.I don't want to see him do hard time... but he definitely needs some training on when use of lethal force is justified and the implications of using it, or even threatening to use it, in situations where it is not justified. This was just stupidity, pure and simple.This
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Hope he does hard time for this. Sort of in the vain of the OJ thing.
Not in his neighborhood!Was only a matter of time. Rumor has it she wanted to go for a walk.
I'm not rushing to his defense as much as reserving judgment until more facts come about. It's generally a pretty sound practice. More people need to try it.Love the guys rushing to his defense in here. I'm sure they grant that kind of benefit of the doubt to all accused persons.
You are presuming there are more relevant facts...and that those facts might justify such a thinly veiled yet significant threat. That might or might not be a reasonable position to take with most people. It's not reasonable here.I'm not rushing to his defense as much as reserving judgment until more facts come about. It's generally a pretty sound practice. More people need to try it.Love the guys rushing to his defense in here. I'm sure they grant that kind of benefit of the doubt to all accused persons.
Ah right, because this is the unreasonable thread. My bad.You are presuming there are more relevant facts...and that those facts might justify such a thinly veiled yet significant threat. That might or might not be a reasonable position to take with most people. It's not reasonable here.I'm not rushing to his defense as much as reserving judgment until more facts come about. It's generally a pretty sound practice. More people need to try it.Love the guys rushing to his defense in here. I'm sure they grant that kind of benefit of the doubt to all accused persons.
everything was fine until she put on her florida gators hoodie when it got cold in the living room. then #### got real.
FYPThat guy really has to learn tocarry pepper spray if he's going to carry a gun. If the bad guy is acting aggressively but not threatening your life... Hit 'em with the pepper spray first. Much easier to justify its use, and it is inherently non-lethal, so that severely restricts your criminal liability exposure. Save the gun for when you truly fear for your own life.fly to China to get some strange IMO.
This isn't a court of law down?Innocent until proven guilty down?
3 people saw this. What facts do you think are going to come out?I'm not rushing to his defense as much as reserving judgment until more facts come about. It's generally a pretty sound practice. More people need to try it.Love the guys rushing to his defense in here. I'm sure they grant that kind of benefit of the doubt to all accused persons.
You mean his soon-to-be-ex-wife, HER DAD and Zimmerman? You're taking her side because divorces are always so amicable and neither side lies? I don't know what or who to believe, but I'm not rushing to her side without some proof. I'm going to need more than her and her dad's word.3 people saw this. What facts do you think are going to come out?I'm not rushing to his defense as much as reserving judgment until more facts come about. It's generally a pretty sound practice. More people need to try it.Love the guys rushing to his defense in here. I'm sure they grant that kind of benefit of the doubt to all accused persons.