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Anyone own a 4K Television (2 Viewers)
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KarmaPolice
Footballguy
I know - First World problems, but I'd have to say that there might be such a thing as too clear for movies.
Could be my eyes, maybe my settings, but I can't seem to shake that the movies look a bit cheesy. If I am honest, it's chipping away at my enjoyment of movies a tad. Seems like older movies aren't as bad, but I was watching stuff like Pulp Fiction and Jurassic Park and I was distracted by it.
Could be my eyes, maybe my settings, but I can't seem to shake that the movies look a bit cheesy. If I am honest, it's chipping away at my enjoyment of movies a tad. Seems like older movies aren't as bad, but I was watching stuff like Pulp Fiction and Jurassic Park and I was distracted by it.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
I was just reading up on some settings. I thought I did it off when I first got it, but maybe one of the kids reset it or something. I will poke around more tonight.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
The other thing I never seem to get right that distracts are the blacks. If it's a dark scene with a lot of black, they always look cloudy/swirly with motion in that area. Ie a show like GoT looked terrible on the old TV and I have been surprised that it's basically the same thing for me on this one.
dkp993
Footballguy
Your likely experiencing the soap opera effect. Some people notice it others can’t unsee it (I’m in the second group). Turning off any motion management stuff will help. What TV?
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Charlie Harper
Footballguy
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Are you streaming or watching a disc? Streaming, you're likely seeing the effects of compression - and there's not much you can do to get around that.
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KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Mostly streaming. You are saying that wouldn't be an issue if I had the 4K GoT discs?
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
TheFanatic
Footballguy
OK, so here's a twist. Before I pull the trigger on the TV I want (I just dropped the equivalent of multiple TV's on a new website for a new business venture), I'm going to put a TV in the boys room. So I want something cheap, decent, good for gaming. I'm thinking 55 inch.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Definitely sounds like some motion smoothing settings going on. I think the OLED I have does a good job in pricing clear crisp pictures for newer movies and a film like grain for older movies. Every once in awhile there will be some makeup or visual effect that clearly wasn’t built with UHD in mind and it looks cheap but that’s not too often.
dkp993
Footballguy
For sure. Though if I’m honest I’m struggling with the SOE on my Q80t especially when compared to my previous Samsung plasma. If I turn off all the motion settings the picture gets to juddery for me. So I have to turn the motion on low and get some SOE.
I will say I like this TV but don’t love it like I loved my Samsung. But I guess there’s a reason why the Samsung was considered the best plasma ever.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
I did fart around with the settings and I think it looks a bit better. Yes, the motion smoothing was on (thanks for the reminder tip, guys! ). I could have sworn I turned that off and used the settings that Charlie relinked when I first bought the thing, but either the kids reset some things, or I got high one night and did something. 
I watched a few things, and it did look a bit less "fake" than what I was experiencing the last couple months.
I watched a few things, and it did look a bit less "fake" than what I was experiencing the last couple months.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
dkp993
Footballguy
It’s more about fast moving “action” scenes vs streaming. Was watching Captain America Civil War on TNT this weekend, the fight scenes were tough to watch as the juddering bothered me so much. It very fast, not like a freeze frame type judder, but it’s one of those things that once you pick up on it you can’t unsee it when it happens.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Interesting. Haven’t had that issue, action is usually pretty smooth. Thought some stuff on TV doesn’t look perfect when fast moving but I had the same issue with my plasma- just won’t think UVerse is giving true 1080. OLEDs supposedly have a skipping issue that doesn’t haven’t to do with action vs non action but seems to happen when streaming. The TV basically is so far superior to the stream that sometimes you can see missing frames is how I think it works. I had that issue at first but some slight tweaking to the settings and using a firestick instead my 4K player to stream fixed the issue.dkp993 said:
Do you notice this when watching blu rays, 4Ks or playing video games?
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dkp993
Footballguy
Interesting info here. Thanks. What’s funny is the complaints I’ve seen with this TV are around sports and it seeming to skip frames when the action happens (like hiking the ball for example). I’ve seen none of that with mine.
Like you mention I’ve played around a ton with my motion settings. Have found a spot where it seems to be the the best but it’s not gone.
Haven’t watch any blu rays (in years really) or 4K content yet Have played games and had no issue but it has a game mode it switches into which likely helps Unfortunately that mode when watching TV really effects the color balance, brightness and over all picture, To much so to adjust for it in those settings.
I notice a slight skip occasionally on my LG OLED. I stream Xfinity through the LG App. Doesn't seem top happen streaming Netflix, Prime, etc.
Punxsutawney Phil
Footballguy
I think the next big thing for gaming is the HDMI 2.1, which there aren't tons of yet. It's on my radar, but I'm waiting until everyone's stimulus money dries up.
Zegras11
Footballguy
TCL - 75” Class 5 Series QLED 4K UHD Smart Roku TV $999
Samsung - HW-S60T 4.0ch All-in-One Soundbar with Alexa Built-in (2020) - Black
Having this installed next week. Moved to new house six weeks ago and there is a game room and the seller left a nice, slate pool table. Custom ping pong table can sit on pool table also. Really looking forward to getting this room all decked out.
Samsung - HW-S60T 4.0ch All-in-One Soundbar with Alexa Built-in (2020) - Black
Having this installed next week. Moved to new house six weeks ago and there is a game room and the seller left a nice, slate pool table. Custom ping pong table can sit on pool table also. Really looking forward to getting this room all decked out.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
HDMI ARC related...
Sony did some sort of update to my 900h that made the HDMI ARC connection to the soundbar misbehave terribly. I was having to reboot the soundbar-which includes unplugging the unit, clearing cache out of the app, etc. A real hassle. It had some it occasionally but now it was a daily thing.
So I decided to run a digital optical cable instead. No more problems.
Plus, and it might be psychological, but I think the sound is better. It seems better balanced and more enveloping. Only downside is having to control volume through my phone.
Maybe HDMI isn't all that?
HDMI is convenience and less cables. But the sound should be the same. Digital is digital. There isn't good DTS and bad DTS. If it's DTS it's the same whether it came through optical or HDMI.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Yes, I know. But I can't help think that the connection issues were symptomatic of a larger problem. Maybe it's a faulty HDMI port.
Hawks64
Footballguy
HDMI eARC just plain sucks. I turn it off on everything. For places where I have a soundbar I can use the cable remote to control power/volume of the TV/Soundbar/Cable. For my main just use my craptastic Harmony.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
TheFanatic
Footballguy
Best Buy has the same deal right now. I am very intrigued by this. Or will I be wondering if I had gone with the Samsung?TheFanatic said:
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
The X90CJ is just Costco's version of the X900J, which in turn is just the next model after the X900H (with I bought and like).
I don't know about the Samsung but here's the difference between the Sonys.
I don't know about the Samsung but here's the difference between the Sonys.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
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Hawks64
Footballguy
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
I will finally breaking down and calling Geek Squad. we have such crap luck with electronics.
Tv for some reason is not detecting internet on any app but Netflix, freezes up, the Google search pops up at random times, and pops out of apps a lot before the trouble with internet.
Tv for some reason is not detecting internet on any app but Netflix, freezes up, the Google search pops up at random times, and pops out of apps a lot before the trouble with internet.
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Charlie Harper
Footballguy
How far is the TV from the router?KarmaPolice said:
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
I have a wi fi amplifier 2 feet from the tv.
streaming apps work fine on bedroom TV and on this TV through the xbox
TheFanatic
Footballguy
nightmare
Footballguy
Cracked the wallet open and bought The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly on 4K for $32.
Also Interstellar for $22 and Hell or High water for $12.
Interstellar I won't watch that often but when I do its going big sound and screen.
I usually buy used for $20 and under but I wasn't going to wait for the price drop.
Also Interstellar for $22 and Hell or High water for $12.
Interstellar I won't watch that often but when I do its going big sound and screen.
I usually buy used for $20 and under but I wasn't going to wait for the price drop.
nightmare
Footballguy
Watching The Good...the Ugly with Oppo 4k player and Sony projector and the difference
with 2k and 4k is the shadows. 4K wasn't brighter but had a little more detail. Sound quality
seemed the same. This is the only movie I've done this with.
It would be nice to see more older movies Bullitt) on 4K.
Heat 4K is only a on Amazon Prime.
with 2k and 4k is the shadows. 4K wasn't brighter but had a little more detail. Sound quality
seemed the same. This is the only movie I've done this with.
It would be nice to see more older movies Bullitt) on 4K.
Heat 4K is only a on Amazon Prime.
gianmarco
Footballguy
jb1020
Footballguy
That seems like a good deal! I've still been watching that 77 In OLED at Costco. Its at $2999, down from about $3500 this summer.
But I start looking again and now QNED is a thing? Haven't seen one in person yet, but looking at black Friday deals on BestBuy and they're everywhere.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I finally got up the ambition to connect an actual 4k streaming device (Roku Stick+) to my TV and...wow does it make a difference.
If you're using your TVs internal apps to stream content, I would suggest you stop and get an external unit.
If you're using your TVs internal apps to stream content, I would suggest you stop and get an external unit.
Orange&Blue
Footballguy
Thoughts on this? Price seems to be an all time low. Looking to replace our main TV (50" Panasonic plasma).
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08WG4HKKY/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_dl_KMEABR7S9S7FXTF808BQ
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08WG4HKKY/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_dl_KMEABR7S9S7FXTF808BQ
Ignoratio Elenchi
Footballguy
Orange&Blue said:
I had been looking at the same one to replace a 12 year old Samsung plasma, thanks for the heads up. Was curious if the price would drop for Black Friday or something but this seems good enough for me to pull the trigger now.
I have the C9 version of this TV from a couple of years ago. I'd be happy buying the same TV now that I bought in 2019. And I paid significantly more than the current generation is going for. Unless this thing dies I don't expect to replace it for at least 10 years. It's worth the money and the picture quality and features are state of the art. I get that it's expensive but if you can afford it I'd recommend it. You won't regret it IMO.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
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