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PFF has some sick ratings for Baldwin; albeit he has limited targets compared to other "elite" WR's. It would be interesting to see what Kearse could do with more wonderboy WIlson time. However, Seattle ranks 31st in total passing attempts per game. While WIlson is highly efficient and makes others around him better, the limited passing attempts in Seattle may cap what anyone does in Seattle, including Harvin.
I've been quietly trying to corner the market on the cheap Seattle receivers all year in various dynasty leagues. Harvin is obviously still pretty pricy, but I've scooped up Rice, Tate, Baldwin, and Kearse in different places over the last year or so at prices varying from waiver claim to throw in / 3rd round rookie pick levels. When the dust clears next year, someone there is going to see a nice value bump. And Russell Wilson is really, really good -- good enough that eventually the team will have no choice but to unleash the passing attack (might be a few years, when they start having to pay guys and don't have such a ridiculous D and ground game, but it'll happen IMO).
Agree all the way around -- but it's going to be pretty hard IMO for SF and Seattle to keep their teams entirely intact when they have to start paying out 2nd contracts to those QBs and young stud defensive players. FA and the salary cap are designed to distribute talent around the league -- it's pretty inevitable. It happened in NE and in Pittsburgh with Brady and Roethlisberger -- and those might be the two best run franchises in professional football the last decade plus. It's all well and good to play conservative offense when you have the two best deep young defenses in the NFL -- but long term it's gonna be tough to keep that going, particularly when Wilson and Kaep need to be re-upped at give or take $20 million per. I'm pretty confident that Wilson will prove capable of carrying the Seahawks on his back if / when he needs to. Out of all the young guys, he's clearly the best IMO (with Luck in that conversation too).PFF has some sick ratings for Baldwin; albeit he has limited targets compared to other "elite" WR's. It would be interesting to see what Kearse could do with more wonderboy WIlson time. However, Seattle ranks 31st in total passing attempts per game. While WIlson is highly efficient and makes others around him better, the limited passing attempts in Seattle may cap what anyone does in Seattle, including Harvin.If Baldwin moves on I'd expect more targets but perhaps less efficiency.
Also in the case of Philly as we've discussed, it makes you wonder how "good" people are compared to what system they're running. WIlson's astronomical passer rating would probably fall were he to sling it 40 times a game trying to make plays like a Romo or Matt Ryan.
The younger stud QB's have great passer ratings but I have no clue whether they'd have the skills to carry an offense on their back ala a Peyton, Brees, or Brady and be a pass-based offense.
Lastly, as long as Carroll, Harbaugh, and Kelly are winning running the football, I don't think they'll change to make our "fantasy QB's" more productive. They're getting real life NFL wins.
While someone may get a small bump, they'll start passing when they get some NFL quality players at wr and te. I guess if you have huge rosters it's okay but a waste of roster spots otherwise.
I've been quietly trying to corner the market on the cheap Seattle receivers all year in various dynasty leagues. Harvin is obviously still pretty pricy, but I've scooped up Rice, Tate, Baldwin, and Kearse in different places over the last year or so at prices varying from waiver claim to throw in / 3rd round rookie pick levels. When the dust clears next year, someone there is going to see a nice value bump. And Russell Wilson is really, really good -- good enough that eventually the team will have no choice but to unleash the passing attack (might be a few years, when they start having to pay guys and don't have such a ridiculous D and ground game, but it'll happen IMO).
Tate is WR36 and Baldwin is WR38 this year -- I'd be highly interested in learning about a dynasty setup where those players aren't worth rostering. Most of us aren't in 6 team short bench leagues.While someone may get a small bump, they'll start passing when they get some NFL quality players at wr and te. I guess if you have huge rosters it's okay but a waste of roster spots otherwise.
How often do you see Belichick hug a guy at the end of a game and lavish crazy amounts of praise on them at the post game presser? If you're a Belichick guy, you've got a chance.
Some of us are looking for guys with actual NFL talent who have some upside. I play to win though, not to keep from embarassing myself. You wouldn't understand.Tate is WR36 and Baldwin is WR38 this year -- I'd be highly interested in learning about a dynasty setup where those players aren't worth rostering. Most of us aren't in 6 team short bench leagues.While someone may get a small bump, they'll start passing when they get some NFL quality players at wr and te. I guess if you have huge rosters it's okay but a waste of roster spots otherwise.
The deeper lineups and rosters go, the more skill is involved. You're right, though, I'm not super interested in understanding a league format in which WR36 is unrosterable. I'm sure you'll get it someday, guy.Some of us are looking for guys with actual NFL talent who have some upside. I play to win though, not to keep from embarassing myself. You wouldn't understand.Tate is WR36 and Baldwin is WR38 this year -- I'd be highly interested in learning about a dynasty setup where those players aren't worth rostering. Most of us aren't in 6 team short bench leagues.While someone may get a small bump, they'll start passing when they get some NFL quality players at wr and te. I guess if you have huge rosters it's okay but a waste of roster spots otherwise.
Ingram is talented, no doubt. As long as he's in NO he will never be reliable in fantasy unfortunately.
Agreed.
He's a UFA. Will be interesting to see what they do, hard to imagine they don't try to get him back.
2014 draft class is very deep at WR. This will keep teams from throwing major dollars at free agent WRs.
Some things to ponder when considering Seattle WRs.
Nobody is looking for an average WR. They want to hit a grandslam with a middle to late fantasy draft pick. They want a guy that has potential to explode for a huge season crushing their ADP. I'm not saying that's the best way to win your fantasy league, but I understand the mentality.
No clue. I purposefully avoided adding him into the conversation. I've been attempting to follow his situation very closely, but I'm at the point where I don't have the foggiest as to what's really going on there. He practiced on Thursday and Friday. Participated in all drills except red-zone and 2-minute drills. If healthy I think he's a lock to be the WR1 in Seattle next year decreasing the value of all other Seattle WRs even further. Harvin is explosive like no other Seattle WR.
Ballard will likely be back. Bradshaw may as well, though probably not (he was on a one-year deal). But I agree that, based on his performance over the second half, it should be Brown's job to lose.
I'm not sure about that. As a whole, the other WRs as a group will lower in value, however I can see either Tate or Baldwin (or whoever's left) becoming more valuable than currently as Percy draws coverage away from them. As it is, teams don't need to gameplan for any one WR so it's easy for them to get lost in the shuffle in regular schemes. Add a dynamic threat that has to be accounted for and guys will have a chance to shine.Hooper31 said:
I like the Patterson call, but I think Justin Hunter is right up there too.
