Doctor Detroit Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 (edited) Let's start a new one, since the team of 2014 is kinda new too! Offseason moves: In: Ian Kinsler, Joe Nathan, Joba Chamberlain, Rajei Davis, Krol the Conqueror Out: Fat ###, Fister, Benoit, Ramon, Infante, Veras Projected lineup: 2B- Kinsler RF- Hunter 1B - Miggy DH - VMart 3B - Castellanos C - Avila CF - AJAX LF - Dirks/Davis SS - Iglesias SP1 - JV SP2 - Mad Max SP3 - Dirty Sanchez SP4 - Porcello Sp5 - Smyly Bullpen: Nathan, Rondon, Chamberlain, Krol, Coke, Alvarez, etc Edited October 2, 2019 by Doctor Detroit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Detroit Posted January 8, 2014 Author Share Posted January 8, 2014 Jose Iglesias signs a 1 year $1.65 million deal today. He's our shortstop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoknew Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Jose Iglesias signs a 1 year $1.65 million deal today. He's our shortstop. The pitching staff must love him. Porcello must be ecstatic right now looking at the infield this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leroy Hoard Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Let's start a new one, since the team of 2014 is kinda new too!Offseason moves: In: Ian Kinsler, Joe Nathan, Joba Chamberlain, Rajei Davis, Krol the ConquerorOut: Fat ###, Fister, Benoit, Ramon, Infante, VerasProjected lineup:2B- KinslerRF- Hunter1B - MiggyDH - VMart3B - CastellanosC - AvilaCF - AJAXLF - Dirks/DavisSS - IglesiasSP1 - JVSP2 - Mad MaxSP3 - Dirty SanchezSP4 - PorcelloSp5 - SmylyBullpen: Nathan, Rondon, Chamberlain, Krol, Coke, Alvarez, etc Castellanos/Avila will be offensive keys before the back end of the order comes up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocGonzo Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 :sehorn:My favorite part of that lineup might be AJax down at 8. He responded well there in the postseason and it should give some nice punch to the back third of the order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Detroit Posted January 9, 2014 Author Share Posted January 9, 2014 I think Morris and Trammell will both eventually get in via the Veterans Committee. How Blyleven and Larkin are in and those two aren't, is ridiculous. Maybe even more ridiculous is Lou Whitaker not even getting on a second ballot, his numbers compare well with a few HOF 2Bman. I think Trammell has the best case though, that 1987 MVP getting robbed hurt him IMO but all the gold gloves and silver sluggers to go with his career numbers should be enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_mx Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 (edited) I think Morris and Trammell will both eventually get in via the Veterans Committee. How Blyleven and Larkin are in and those two aren't, is ridiculous. Maybe even more ridiculous is Lou Whitaker not even getting on a second ballot, his numbers compare well with a few HOF 2Bman. I think Trammell has the best case though, that 1987 MVP getting robbed hurt him IMO but all the gold gloves and silver sluggers to go with his career numbers should be enough. Whitaker is #6 all-time WAR for second basemen, rated above more than a dozen HOF at 2B. Trammel and Whitaker should go in together as by far the best and most prolific double-play duo of all-time. No other pair comes close to their average of 113 double plays per year and yet alone to their 1200+ over their career together. Edited January 9, 2014 by jon_mx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Detroit Posted January 9, 2014 Author Share Posted January 9, 2014 Justin Verlander underwent successful "core muscle surgery" today and is expected to be ready for Spring Training. WTF did this come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogart Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Justin Verlander underwent successful "core muscle surgery" today and is expected to be ready for Spring Training. WTF did this come from? Sounds like the Romo "mole removal procedure" during last offseason for the Cowboys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Detroit Posted January 9, 2014 Author Share Posted January 9, 2014 Justin Verlander underwent successful "core muscle surgery" today and is expected to be ready for Spring Training. WTF did this come from? Sounds like the Romo "mole removal procedure" during last offseason for the Cowboys.Sounds like a junk enhancement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogart Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Justin Verlander underwent successful "core muscle surgery" today and is expected to be ready for Spring Training. WTF did this come from? Sounds like the Romo "mole removal procedure" during last offseason for the Cowboys.Sounds like a junk enhancement. Maybe he's trying to get Kate back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher State Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 sounds like 6 week rehab for J V but should be full strength for opening day 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooderson Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Big fan of Nathan. I didn't mind seeing him in Texas but Detroit is going to be tough to stomach. You got a good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_mx Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Justin Verlander underwent successful "core muscle surgery" today and is expected to be ready for Spring Training. WTF did this come from? Sounds like the Romo "mole removal procedure" during last offseason for the Cowboys.Sounds like a junk enhancement. Maybe he's trying to get Kate back.Otis says she is fat, so maybe not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Guru Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Looking forward to seeing the new look Tigers without the basepaths all clogged up by Shamu. Does Nicky the Greek had good wheels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Detroit Posted January 13, 2014 Author Share Posted January 13, 2014 Looking forward to seeing the new look Tigers without the basepaths all clogged up by Shamu. Does Nicky the Greek had good wheels? Yeah, he'll probably steal a few bases also once he gets baserunning down. He's probably got slightly above average speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leroy Hoard Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Are we sure Nick is Greek? That was my original guess too, but someone told me he's Hispanic (Greek name would end with an ous).wiki: Castellanos was raised by his parents, Michelle and Jorge, in South Florida. His mother's family is based in Michigan. He and his fiancee Vanessa Hernandez had a son in August 2013. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Detroit Posted January 13, 2014 Author Share Posted January 13, 2014 Are we sure Nick is Greek? That was my original guess too, but someone told me he's Hispanic (Greek name would end with an ous).wiki: Castellanos was raised by his parents, Michelle and Jorge, in South Florida. His mother's family is based in Michigan. He and his fiancee Vanessa Hernandez had a son in August 2013.Pretty sure Castellanos is Hispanic. Let's call him Greek for now though, close enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicycle_seat_sniffer Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Are we sure Nick is Greek? That was my original guess too, but someone told me he's Hispanic (Greek name would end with an ous).wiki: Castellanos was raised by his parents, Michelle and Jorge, in South Florida. His mother's family is based in Michigan. He and his fiancee Vanessa Hernandez had a son in August 2013.Pretty sure Castellanos is Hispanic. Let's call him Greek for now though, close enough. Nick is a greek name, has to be greek, latins dont name their kids nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Guru Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Are we sure Nick is Greek? That was my original guess too, but someone told me he's Hispanic (Greek name would end with an ous).wiki: Castellanos was raised by his parents, Michelle and Jorge, in South Florida. His mother's family is based in Michigan. He and his fiancee Vanessa Hernandez had a son in August 2013.Pretty sure Castellanos is Hispanic. Let's call him Greek for now though, close enough. Nick is a greek name, has to be greek, latins dont name their kids nick.A buddy of mine saw him at The New Parthenon last year. A Nick in Greektown? Has to be greek. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Guru Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Max gets 15.5 to avoid arbitration. Remember the good ole days... When 15.5 would be for a 5 year deal and be dam good money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Detroit Posted January 17, 2014 Author Share Posted January 17, 2014 AJAX, Dirks, Porcello and Al Al also agree to one year deals. I like that the Tigers agree with players instead of going to arbitration, other teams fight for every nickel which seems exhausting for both sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC_32 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Justin Verlander underwent successful "core muscle surgery" today and is expected to be ready for Spring Training. WTF did this come from? didn't he injure this after the near no hitter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogart Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 AJAX, Dirks, Porcello and Al Al also agree to one year deals. I like that the Tigers agree with players instead of going to arbitration, other teams fight for every nickel which seems exhausting for both sides. Agreed. It's better for everyone to agree pre-arbitration. Nothing like going into a room and hearing your boss talk about how you are only worth this much money to them.Texas has gone 14 years now without going to arbitration with any player. JD publicly has stated that's something he is proud of. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Guru Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Any word on how Miggy and Verlanders groins are doing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicycle_seat_sniffer Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Any word on how Miggy and Verlanders groins are doing?JVs is somewhere near Kate Uptons, Im sure hes fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_mx Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Any word on how Miggy and Verlanders groins are doing?JVs is somewhere near Kate Uptons, Im sure hes fineIf Justin can't throw a complete game, I'll relieve him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Detroit Posted January 26, 2014 Author Share Posted January 26, 2014 Tigers seem to be in the market for another reliever, hopefully they sign another vet this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicycle_seat_sniffer Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Nelson Cruz rumors have any weight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igbomb Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 :dot: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eephus Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Wockenfuss 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Detroit Posted January 28, 2014 Author Share Posted January 28, 2014 WockenfussSo awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leroy Hoard Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Nelson Cruz rumors have any weight?If he batted left maybe but they already signed the speedier Davis to platoon with Dirks. Cruz would return some power to the lineup but i'm not sure that's the direction they are looking to go. Also they let the very popular Jhonny go and Cruz is yet another juicer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Guru Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 (edited) WockenfussSo awesome Enos Cabell Is it me or do all the players from that era look skinny? Edited February 2, 2014 by Da Guru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher State Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I saw some pitchers on line of JV with Kate Upton at some superbowl parties in NY. I wonder if Kate will being showing up for the games, HOT HOT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leroy Hoard Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 WockenfussSo awesome Enos Cabell Is it me or do all the players from that era look skinny?Greenies instead of PEDs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Guru Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Let's start a new one, since the team of 2014 is kinda new too!Offseason moves: In: Ian Kinsler, Joe Nathan, Joba Chamberlain, Rajei Davis, Krol the ConquerorOut: Fat ###, Fister, Benoit, Ramon, Infante, VerasProjected lineup:2B- KinslerRF- Hunter1B - MiggyDH - VMart3B - CastellanosC - AvilaCF - AJAXLF - Dirks/DavisSS - IglesiasSP1 - JVSP2 - Mad MaxSP3 - Dirty SanchezSP4 - PorcelloSp5 - SmylyBullpen: Nathan, Rondon, Chamberlain, Krol, Coke, Alvarez, etc So is the roster set? This is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leroy Hoard Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Let's start a new one, since the team of 2014 is kinda new too!Offseason moves: In: Ian Kinsler, Joe Nathan, Joba Chamberlain, Rajei Davis, Krol the ConquerorOut: Fat ###, Fister, Benoit, Ramon, Infante, VerasProjected lineup:2B- KinslerRF- Hunter1B - MiggyDH - VMart3B - CastellanosC - AvilaCF - AJAXLF - Dirks/DavisSS - IglesiasSP1 - JVSP2 - Mad MaxSP3 - Dirty SanchezSP4 - PorcelloSp5 - SmylyBullpen: Nathan, Rondon, Chamberlain, Krol, Coke, Alvarez, etc So is the roster set? This is it?I wouldn't call it set this early but I think there are at most 1 or 2 changes based on last minute trades/FAs/promotions due to spring training goodness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocGonzo Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Verlander is back to throwing off the mound and looks to be on pace for the start of the season. Threw 20 pitches today. Sounds like he's feeling pretty good. Looks like the injury was something that was going to need fixing at some point so they might be lucky he got hurt when he did.http://www.mlive.com/tigers/index.ssf/2014/02/justin_verlander_says_recovery.html#incart_river Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Guru Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Let's start a new one, since the team of 2014 is kinda new too!Offseason moves: In: Ian Kinsler, Joe Nathan, Joba Chamberlain, Rajei Davis, Krol the ConquerorOut: Fat ###, Fister, Benoit, Ramon, Infante, VerasProjected lineup:2B- KinslerRF- Hunter1B - MiggyDH - VMart3B - CastellanosC - AvilaCF - AJAXLF - Dirks/DavisSS - IglesiasSP1 - JVSP2 - Mad MaxSP3 - Dirty SanchezSP4 - PorcelloSp5 - SmylyBullpen: Nathan, Rondon, Chamberlain, Krol, Coke, Alvarez, etc So is the roster set? This is it?I wouldn't call it set this early but I think there are at most 1 or 2 changes based on last minute trades/FAs/promotions due to spring training goodness.Leroy..I had a PM for you. No messages? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Guru Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 In a poll of MLB GMs the best trade of the year goes to...........The Washington Nationals by a wide margin. Although they spoke or respect for DD it was said that the Nats gave up next to nothing to get a pitcher who could be a top 10 starter in the NL. Lobardozzis are a dime a dozen, Kroll is considered a run of the mill RP, and that DD must see something in Roberts that nobody else does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyLayne Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 WockenfussSo awesome Watching on my phone I couldn't see his hands; was it the top hand he used to flutter all four fingers during the pitchers windup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Detroit Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 In a poll of MLB GMs the best trade of the year goes to...........The Washington Nationals by a wide margin. Although they spoke or respect for DD it was said that the Nats gave up next to nothing to get a pitcher who could be a top 10 starter in the NL. Lobardozzis are a dime a dozen, Kroll is considered a run of the mill RP, and that DD must see something in Roberts that nobody else does.Way to see how the trade works out over time. Krol is a very capable late inning lefty reliever and Lombardozzi is a solid utility guy who plays 2B, 3B and the outfield. Those are two things the Tigers lacked last year. No? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igbomb Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 In a poll of MLB GMs the best trade of the year goes to...........The Washington Nationals by a wide margin. Although they spoke or respect for DD it was said that the Nats gave up next to nothing to get a pitcher who could be a top 10 starter in the NL. Lobardozzis are a dime a dozen, Kroll is considered a run of the mill RP, and that DD must see something in Roberts that nobody else does.Way to see how the trade works out over time. Krol is a very capable late inning lefty reliever and Lombardozzi is a solid utility guy who plays 2B, 3B and the outfield. Those are two things the Tigers lacked last year. No? DD, you're nuts on Lombardozzi. The guy hits about as good as Kelly and is a sub-standard defender all over the diamond.Maybe he is ready to make some leap, but if he is simply expected to be what he has thus far, he is simply another Kelly. Which means we now have two versatile yet good at nothing players holding down the bench. Ugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Detroit Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 In a poll of MLB GMs the best trade of the year goes to...........The Washington Nationals by a wide margin. Although they spoke or respect for DD it was said that the Nats gave up next to nothing to get a pitcher who could be a top 10 starter in the NL. Lobardozzis are a dime a dozen, Kroll is considered a run of the mill RP, and that DD must see something in Roberts that nobody else does.Way to see how the trade works out over time. Krol is a very capable late inning lefty reliever and Lombardozzi is a solid utility guy who plays 2B, 3B and the outfield. Those are two things the Tigers lacked last year. No? DD, you're nuts on Lombardozzi. The guy hits about as good as Kelly and is a sub-standard defender all over the diamond.Maybe he is ready to make some leap, but if he is simply expected to be what he has thus far, he is simply another Kelly. Which means we now have two versatile yet good at nothing players holding down the bench. Ugh.His standard and advanced fielding numbers indicate he's solid at 2B, ok at third and usable in LF. He's a switch hitter, is ten years younger than Ramon Santiago, and costs $500k a year. He's going to get a lot of ABs IMO, so I hope he's not as bad as you think he is. I wish we would have gotten Danny Espinosa back instead, he's a premium fielder with pop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_mx Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 In a poll of MLB GMs the best trade of the year goes to...........The Washington Nationals by a wide margin. Although they spoke or respect for DD it was said that the Nats gave up next to nothing to get a pitcher who could be a top 10 starter in the NL. Lobardozzis are a dime a dozen, Kroll is considered a run of the mill RP, and that DD must see something in Roberts that nobody else does.Way to see how the trade works out over time. Krol is a very capable late inning lefty reliever and Lombardozzi is a solid utility guy who plays 2B, 3B and the outfield. Those are two things the Tigers lacked last year. No? I hope the trade works out well, but Fister has been money for Detroit and good starting pitching is at a premium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Detroit Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 Are you guys going to harp on this all year? Dombrowski got Fister for almost nothing, and he flipped him for two solid depth guys and a pitcher he thinks will eventually be a #3 pitcher. How many trades has Dombrowski made that ended up being lopsided in the other teams favor? People wouldn't stop with the Jair Jurrjens/Renteria trade until Jurrjens hit a wall and was released, proving DD saw something there that fans don't understand. Carlos Guillen, Miggy, Fister, Scherzer, and AJAX have all come back in trades with those players being superior talents to those traded away in most cases. I think the worst trade he's made was probably dealing away Turner and Brantley for Infante, but we got 1.5 years of great baseball out of Infante when we needed it most. There is a reason he made the deal, let's talk about how it worked out in 2016 when Ray should be in the rotation. He knows more about baseball than any of us here, he even knows more than those morons on Detroit Sportstalk radio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Guru Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 (edited) Are you guys going to harp on this all year? Dombrowski got Fister for almost nothing, and he flipped him for two solid depth guys and a pitcher he thinks will eventually be a #3 pitcher. How many trades has Dombrowski made that ended up being lopsided in the other teams favor? People wouldn't stop with the Jair Jurrjens/Renteria trade until Jurrjens hit a wall and was released, proving DD saw something there that fans don't understand. Carlos Guillen, Miggy, Fister, Scherzer, and AJAX have all come back in trades with those players being superior talents to those traded away in most cases. I think the worst trade he's made was probably dealing away Turner and Brantley for Infante, but we got 1.5 years of great baseball out of Infante when we needed it most. There is a reason he made the deal, let's talk about how it worked out in 2016 when Ray should be in the rotation. He knows more about baseball than any of us here, he even knows more than those morons on Detroit Sportstalk radio. It will be let go if Lombardoozi hits .300+ and plays gold glove caliber defense at 6 positions, Kroll has a WHIP below 1 and is KOing a batter an inning with 20 straight holds, and Ray is the Minor League pitcher of the year and top rated prospect in all of MLB..not a day sooner. Edited February 18, 2014 by Da Guru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Detroit Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 You forgot the part where Smyly pitches as well or better out the #4 spot as Fister would have, which is probably the most important development for 2014. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leroy Hoard Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 (edited) Fister was good, not great. His era & whip went up each year he was here, not a real solid trend. Edited February 18, 2014 by Leroy Hoard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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