IMAX 3D
Footballguy
Because by the time they’re ready to compete in 3-5 years he’ll be hitting free agency
if you can get some high leve prospects for him I think you do it and try to speed up the rebuild
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***Detroit Tigers thread: 1st pick yet again, this is not fun*** (3 Viewers)
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if you can get some high leve prospects for him I think you do it and try to speed up the rebuild
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
Compete? You mean like being 3 games out of first in the central right now? Trading Fulmer would just be perpetual rebuild. ####, it looks like they should have taken a shot on another bat or an Arriata at this rate. Why does it seem like every Tigers fan thinks this is some 5 year project? Even Avila he has stated he’s too damn old for that ####.
MAC_32
Footballguy
We are over achieving, the Indians are under, and we are still behind. It isn't happening this year. Two choices with Fulmer - re sign him below market now or pursue trade options. Both really depend on one factor - health, right now and projecting to the future.
Either way, this isn't a 5 year project. But it's probably 2-3.
IMAX 3D
Footballguy
IMAX 3D
Footballguy
We have 2 MLB quality bats ( Castellanos and Candelario) that will still be here in a few years. Maybe the corpse of Miggy but he’ll be useless
need as many prospects as we can get right now
MAC_32
Footballguy
JaCoby is showing some encouraging growth. He needs to be better than he is now, but he needed to get better than he was first. I think he's done that. He's probably not a second contract consideration, but he can at least get us to the young guys without rushing them.
Epic Problem
Footballguy
Both out of the lineup today. Paxton probably has the best chance at pulling a VanderMeer than anyone's had in the past 50 years.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Right trade him and HOPE to get 1 arm as good as him? hes young and cheap...for now....
Doctor Detroit
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What prospects? Give me some examples.
They control Fulmer through 2022, you just don’t trade him because you think you need “prospects.” There are other avenues to get to that end.
IMAX 3D
Footballguy
I’d take some bats . And he’s not gonna be that cheap once he starts hitting arbitration
Sorry I don’t get that deep into prospect research. I just think we have a guy who we should consider trading if we get a good offer. I don’t think he’s anywhere near untouchable
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Over the years I have gone from having a list of untouchables to thinking everyone has their price. That said, it better be a kings ransom for someone like Fulmer, trading guys just to recycle them is not the way either.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
whoknew
Footballguy
I think at this point, the Tigers have to hope in 2021 they have a killer rotation filled with young guys, a couple guys who are solid regulars (Candy, Cameron, Paredes, Lugo, Stewart) and then sign a couple impact bats as free agents.
Doctor Detroit
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They have the arms, they probably have a top five farm system as far as arms and we’re gonna add another with the #1 pick this year.
Candelario, Stewart, and Paredes probably are the guys who can be above average regulars. All those guys have pretty high ceilings.
But your take is exactly what I was thinking the other day. We’re gonna be a few bats short but you can sign bats.
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IMAX 3D
Footballguy
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
IMAX 3D
Footballguy
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Mine too. Fulmer has the stuff to be a solid #2. If you can get the next Sherzer for him though I am on board.
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Doctor Detroit
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Doctor Detroit
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The Tigers are missing the top 4 guys in their lineup, pitched Mike Fiers...against Carlos Carrasco, and they beat the Indians tonight.
Starting to believe Gardenhire is actually pretty good.
Starting to believe Gardenhire is actually pretty good.
Raging weasel
Footballguy
Yep, didn't think there was any way last night's lineup would be the one to end the 11 game skid vs Cle.
MAC_32
Footballguy
All it takes against the Tribe pen lately is a close game into the late innings, but - yeah, I didn't see this one being close going to the late innings.
Raging weasel
Footballguy
Great inning by the Tigers, 11 guys to the plate and 5 runs to grab the lead. Nice job by Miller walking 3 straight batters. Now just need to close this one out.
Doctor Detroit
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Stumpf is the man. 
Doctor Detroit
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4th straight day for Greene. 
Doctor Detroit
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I’d give this team a solid B for the first quarter of the season, and the exciting comebacks and late inning magic has been fun.
Who cares if they’re ten games out in July? That’s what they’re supposed to be. Enjoy the team playing good baseball, they are actually worth watching.
Who cares if they’re ten games out in July? That’s what they’re supposed to be. Enjoy the team playing good baseball, they are actually worth watching.
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Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
Say whatever you want about this team: they suck, they’re trash, they’re on a 20 year rebuild plan... they don’t give a ####. They’ve fought in every game they’ve played and have more heart than any of the teams in the Brad years.
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Raging weasel
Footballguy
Thought for sure the bad throw and WP was going to cost us the game.4th straight day for Greene.
So far this team has been fun to watch, a bunch of basically 4A guys just playing their butts off with really no expectations from them.
Gopher State
Footballguy
No Miggy and this team continues to play hard. MN should of never let Gardy get away.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
When they predict teams winning or losing 100 games I don't think they count managers and the coaches they bring with them enough in the equation.
Raging weasel
Footballguy
Plus how bad this division is. Det,KC and Chi could all lose 100 games based on their rosters but someone has to be the best of the worst and right now that looks like us.
What's the record for most 100 loss teams in a season? If it's less than 3 I predict the new record is set this year.
Epic Problem
Footballguy
Not sure what the record is, but there are currently 6 teams on pace to top 100 loses, BAL / CHW / CIN / TEX / KC / MIA
SD and LAD on pace for 99ish
Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
I had Miggy on my roster, and was happy with his productive start. But now I am reading that he has no plans to come off the DL anytime soon because he is angry. He is angry at the team for not appreciating when he plays hurt, and he is angry at the media and fans for bringing up his child-support issues. He's just angry, period.
What is the scoop from Tigers homers? Is this an ongoing thing?
What is the scoop from Tigers homers? Is this an ongoing thing?
whoknew
Footballguy
No. It was a crazy thing to say.
Very few athletes are as beloved in their home town as Miggy is in Detroit. Nobody ever says a bad word about him. Everyone loves him. Hell, I don't even think we are really mad at him for this. He's just frustrated, I'm sure. It sucks being hurt all the time. He'll be back.
MrJimiT
Footballguy
I agree with this...in it's current state. But IF quotes like this keep coming out, and are attributed to Miggy actually saying them, I can see the Tiger fandom turning rather quickly. The local radio talking heads this morning have been reading listener text messages - and a good percentage of them feel it's a conspiracy theory so-to-speak. That Miggy is leaking his "apparent" displeasure to the media in the hopes Tiger management will move him. Even IF there was a lick of truth to this, how do the Tigers unload a contract like Miggy has??
whoknew
Footballguy
Yea - as much as I love him, it'd be great to move him. But nobody is taking that contract.
Gopher State
Footballguy
I think the family issues and age is taking a tole on miggy. Not helping himself by saying he won’t play hurt.
Doctor Detroit
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He’s good, just not closer material.
They should have won Friday, that was a meltdown by Farmer and Saupold. Then today Liriano throws 8 innings of one hit ball and Greene blows it.
And I was just saying that night the bullpen has been pretty good. I jinxed the whole thing.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Not to sound clueless, but why is it that nobody ever just drafts a closer early? Why do they always seem to be converted starters?
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Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Gopher State
Footballguy
Gardy returns to Minnesota tonight? Wish him well in his return
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
I'm not sure what the 32 year old Coleman was doing wrong before, but this year for a sidearmer he seems to have gotten pretty straight.
Doctor Detroit
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Fiers kinda stinks but he’s a fine #5 on this team.
Love the 84mph heaters.
Love the 84mph heaters.
