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Went to Detroit over the weekend, beautiful park you guys have there. We moved around a bit and the site lines are pretty great all the way around. Coming from Fenway anything is better but yours were

Mike Illitch. RIP.  Great, great owner. 

May seem like a homer or shtick or whatever, but that looked like a future Ace playing with a really bad  team around him.   I know Goodrum is a fill at SS for 2020, but he probably cost Mize a

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3 hours ago, whoknew said:

Rough start for young Skrubal. Better days ahead. 

It was (Soto's appearance too), but it was comforting to at least want to tune into a game. I don't remember the last time I had that feeling. Looking forward to Mize tonight.

Is there any hope of buying some bats this winter? Good pitching drives me to a game, but functional offense is what keeps me engaged.

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May seem like a homer or shtick or whatever, but that looked like a future Ace playing with a really bad  team around him.
 

I know Goodrum is a fill at SS for 2020, but he probably cost Mize a win. I like Goodrum as an almost every day utilityman, but he’s being asked to do too much right now. 
 

That was the most important game the Tigers have played in several years, I really wanted that win. 
 

The splitter and four seam are ++ and + pitchers. I thought those 90mph things at the top of the zone were cutters, I guess they were sliders that didn’t slide. Curveball looked good at 86. 
 

I mean, I’m impressed. He basically gave up a homer and a double and the team behind him helped CWS score 1.5 runs. Can’t wait until he pitches again. 

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7 hours ago, FishTacoTuesday said:

May seem like a homer or shtick or whatever, but that looked like a future Ace playing with a really bad  team around him.
 

I know Goodrum is a fill at SS for 2020, but he probably cost Mize a win. I like Goodrum as an almost every day utilityman, but he’s being asked to do too much right now. 
 

That was the most important game the Tigers have played in several years, I really wanted that win. 
 

The splitter and four seam are ++ and + pitchers. I thought those 90mph things at the top of the zone were cutters, I guess they were sliders that didn’t slide. Curveball looked good at 86. 
 

I mean, I’m impressed. He basically gave up a homer and a double and the team behind him helped CWS score 1.5 runs. Can’t wait until he pitches again. 

:goodposting:

also looks like Candelario might actually belong in the majors 

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8 hours ago, FishTacoTuesday said:

May seem like a homer or shtick or whatever, but that looked like a future Ace playing with a really bad  team around him.
 

I know Goodrum is a fill at SS for 2020, but he probably cost Mize a win. I like Goodrum as an almost every day utilityman, but he’s being asked to do too much right now. 
 

That was the most important game the Tigers have played in several years, I really wanted that win. 
 

The splitter and four seam are ++ and + pitchers. I thought those 90mph things at the top of the zone were cutters, I guess they were sliders that didn’t slide. Curveball looked good at 86. 
 

I mean, I’m impressed. He basically gave up a homer and a double and the team behind him helped CWS score 1.5 runs. Can’t wait until he pitches again. 

 

I was impressed too. The amount of movement on his pitches is terrific. And the splitter is just filthy. 

Like you, I have high hopes for him.

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8 hours ago, FishTacoTuesday said:

May seem like a homer or shtick or whatever, but that looked like a future Ace playing with a really bad  team around him.
 

I know Goodrum is a fill at SS for 2020, but he probably cost Mize a win. I like Goodrum as an almost every day utilityman, but he’s being asked to do too much right now. 
 

That was the most important game the Tigers have played in several years, I really wanted that win. 
 

The splitter and four seam are ++ and + pitchers. I thought those 90mph things at the top of the zone were cutters, I guess they were sliders that didn’t slide. Curveball looked good at 86. 
 

I mean, I’m impressed. He basically gave up a homer and a double and the team behind him helped CWS score 1.5 runs. Can’t wait until he pitches again. 

Other than some pitching prospects look at their lineup the Tigers are a very bad team.  Miggy is and has been a shell of a player for 3 years now. Only 3 years left on his contract.   No other supporting cast of hitters.

Nico a 1-2 start a week guy in a long season,  a Don Kelly type of player.  

Nice first start for Mize against a good hitting team.

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On 8/20/2020 at 12:30 AM, FishTacoTuesday said:

May seem like a homer or shtick or whatever, but that looked like a future Ace playing with a really bad  team around him.
 

I know Goodrum is a fill at SS for 2020, but he probably cost Mize a win. I like Goodrum as an almost every day utilityman, but he’s being asked to do too much right now. 
 

That was the most important game the Tigers have played in several years, I really wanted that win. 
 

The splitter and four seam are ++ and + pitchers. I thought those 90mph things at the top of the zone were cutters, I guess they were sliders that didn’t slide. Curveball looked good at 86. 
 

I mean, I’m impressed. He basically gave up a homer and a double and the team behind him helped CWS score 1.5 runs. Can’t wait until he pitches again. 

Completely agree and was going to post the same. It's amazing how much movement he gets. Not walking anyone in your first start is a great sign too.

If a couple more pitching prospects come through and they can get 4-5 bats they can start making noise again.

 

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1 hour ago, Raging weasel said:

Completely agree and was going to post the same. It's amazing how much movement he gets. Not walking anyone in your first start is a great sign too.

If a couple more pitching prospects come through and they can get 4-5 bats they can start making noise again.

 

With Manning, Skubal, Faedo, and Fulmer I think they’ll have a very good starting rotation as soon as next year. The bullpen arms are there too, now. Funkhouser, Farmer, Soto, Jimenez and then Wentz and burrows as sp/RP.
 

tork and Greene need to be all star type players. Parades could be like an Astrubal Cabrera type, I think he’s at worst a good every day player. Goodrum could work at 2B and Kody Clemens is probably ready next year. Jake Rodgers is underrated and is the best catcher prospect the Tigers have had in a long time. 
 

Stewart is a guy that I would not be surprised if he’s an above average hitter with power. Not confident he’s anything more than a DH platoon, but we’ll see. 
 

Daz Cameron is a wildcard. Hopefully between he and Parker Meadows they get at least one starting MLB OFer.  This is a big year for Jacoby Jones to see if he can stick. He plays a great CF and has power and some speed. His plate discipline is bad though, looking for improvements. 
 

To me if the pitching develops and stays healthy with this kind of talent, and Greene and Tork are stars, they’ll be competitive in 2022. They need a Parades or a Castro or a Cameron to be above average players. 
 

2022

C Rogers

1B Tork

2B Clemens 

SS Castro

3B Parades 

RF Greene

CF Jones or Cameron 

LF Meadows 

DH Stewart 
 

mize, Manning, Fulmer, Faedo, Skubal, Burrows

Sprinkle in some good vets and that list might be good. We can hope anyway. 

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A better than the box score indicates performance from Skubal. Blue did not given him anything on the outside edge. Don't get me wrong, he was still wild and inefficient but that was a 4(plus?) ip sorta game. Let's continue the progress next time out :popcorn:

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22 minutes ago, FishTacoTuesday said:

Wonder if Boyd gets dealt. Probably the only player they have with trade value. 

If it's a massive haul, fine. But I'd rather not. He's still got 2 years left and moving him would leave us short on arms next year. I'd rather wait-and-see how things go next spring then consider moving him a/o Fulmer July 2021.

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26 minutes ago, FishTacoTuesday said:

Wonder if Boyd gets dealt. Probably the only player they have with trade value. 

I read that other teams are interested in Austin Romine. And the Cubs have interest in Maybin. I'd be a little surprised is a contender wasn't interested in Schoop.

But not sure the Tigers would trade those guys right now - 2 games out of the playoffs.

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1 hour ago, whoknew said:

I read that other teams are interested in Austin Romine. And the Cubs have interest in Maybin. I'd be a little surprised is a contender wasn't interested in Schoop.

But not sure the Tigers would trade those guys right now - 2 games out of the playoffs.

I’d trade them all. Boyd would have to net a significant haul, more than the Indians got for clevenger, but I’d do it. 

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On 8/31/2020 at 12:16 PM, whoknew said:

I read that other teams are interested in Austin Romine. And the Cubs have interest in Maybin. I'd be a little surprised is a contender wasn't interested in Schoop.

But not sure the Tigers would trade those guys right now - 2 games out of the playoffs.

A contender was interested..The Tigers!

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Victor Reyes and Wili Castro are pretty impressive. I hope Castro gets more starts at SS from here and Goodrum moves back to super utility. The unfortunate injury to Jacoby Jones should allow Castro and Goodrum to play nearly every day, and I’d rather see Castro at SS. 
 

The Fulmer/Norris tandem has been looking good. Norris may finally be coming around and seems to be becoming an asset. Jimenez needs to be moved to the losing bullpen, he should not be in high leverage right now. With Garcia, Schreiber, Cisnero, Funkhouser, Farmer, and Soto I don’t understand why Jimenez is being used in tight games. 

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That was a tough last six games, they should have won in Milwaukee Wednesday and they lost three close games with the twins blowing leads in the 9th twice. 
 

They are very competitive though, which is shocking based on the starting pitching. In a 162 game season they’d be screwed but with a young pitching staff, this happens. 
 

Hey, they are fun to watch. Yesterday’s comeback win was sweet. 

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1 hour ago, whoknew said:

Its official - AJ Hinch is the new manager. 

Seems like a good - if controversial - hire.

People have short memories and running a bad team even shorter.  AJ is a good young manager who hopefully can develop a young team like Detroit.  

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