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Ok, please read what you wrote before the season and then tell me what changed? I'll hang up and listen.Understand that he can only get better. The "great" statement is what I don`t understand. Thought Ausmus did an average job at best and mishandled the bullpen and cost the team at least one more home playoff game. For a team in a "win now" we had a manager that was getting on the job training.He was a rookie manager, safe to assume he gets better. How hard a concept is that to understand? oofListened to Dombrowski`s year end presser. Said Ausmus did a great job and will only get better next year.Was asked if he regretted trading Doug Fister and he said no that starting pitching was not the teams problem, then went on to say the Tigers were forced to trade for Price because Verlander is not the same Verlander. (If so why start him in game 2 then?) Joe Nathan will again start the season as closer with a shorter leash.
Said the Tigers will have a high payroll again next season looking to add 2 OFs one who is a CF. A left handed bat and of course bullpen help.
That was after he was already hired and I don`t think he did a great job. Does not matter what I wanted or predicted but the end result. I honestly thought it was a good move at the time reading the information that we all did. I thought Ausmus was going to be more open minded, willing to change things game by game if needed. Ausmus was as stubborn as Leyland and went down with the ship.Doctor Detroit said:Ok, please read what you wrote before the season and then tell me what changed? I'll hang up and listen.Da Guru said:Understand that he can only get better. The "great" statement is what I don`t understand. Thought Ausmus did an average job at best and mishandled the bullpen and cost the team at least one more home playoff game. For a team in a "win now" we had a manager that was getting on the job training.He was a rookie manager, safe to assume he gets better. How hard a concept is that to understand? oofListened to Dombrowski`s year end presser. Said Ausmus did a great job and will only get better next year.
Said the Tigers will have a high payroll again next season looking to add 2 OFs one who is a CF. A left handed bat and of course bullpen help.
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I still don't agree with his use of Anibal in game 2. I also said it may not have mattered with the rest of the bull pen on flames. They were just awful, all year. If it wasn't Coke, it was Nathan, then Soria was brought on board and couldn't even pitch a solid 7th, then Joba started exploding and was already streaky... Al Al has never been trusted, just bad. I will be highly disappointed if they don't make a serious run at Andrew Miller. He should be target 1 and 2 in the free agent market. I know relief pitchers are fickle but I think we're talking about a guy on par with the Arlodis Chapman's of the world. Took awhile for it to click but he's always had A+ talent. I really think if a team wanted to they could experiment with him starting again and it might pay off.
Nope. It's different every year. Before last year's Red Sox, the two prior winners had bullpens in the bottom half of the league.
Pretty much, bullpens have crazy volatility year to year.
this is why we should let victor go and use those funds for several players and no just a stud. Studs and scrubs doesn't work in this game and that's what this team is right now.
I'd want as many years I could get, so I think he'll be looking for 4 years. Ortiz is averaging about $15 million a year, and I think he'll get about that, but the years are the question. I think if he's willing to do a 2/$30m with the Tigers (same contract Ortiz signed in Boston), it's a no brainer IMO. 3 years is questionable, I'd pass on anything longer.
The market for top DH types is always kind of bearish. Half the potential bidders are eliminated automatically and many AL teams have the position filled. Martinez' age and expected contract demands will scare away other teams. He would be an upgrade for a lot of AL teams but DH is seldom the priority when you're putting a team together.
Give me your guess at what he's worth, and what he'll get.
The White Sox, Mariners and Tigers seem like the likely bidders. I don't think Chicago is close enough to think that a 36 year old DH is the solution but I guess they have some money to spend. Jack Z seems like he brings in a couple of DHs every winter.
Win or lose, I think the Royals' run has enough of a feelgood factor that they'll want to keep the band together and pick up Butler's option. Maybe I've just been watching Sabean operate too long.
I think Victor sees himself as a first baseman/DH. I remember reading somewhere that he said he would like to play more games in the field.
With Miggy being hobbled the last 2 years I'd think the Tigers would want to put VMart at 1st a little more often.
I don't think there's any way Martinez agrees to just 2 years/$30mm. 3/$45 is more realistic.
Great, one less LH hitter than the few they already have.MAC_32 said:
Gotta think big picture here. Victor didn't just have a bounce back year, he had a career year - at age 35. If this weren't such a flawed team, sure, go for it, see if he is able to beat father time another couple of years. There are too many holes to re-up as is though. If we go down this path then some other big ticket pieces need moved first.
Well they would be forced to at that point. I was hoping for a LH outfielder to fill a top 6 position in the order to replace Torri, in addition to keeping Victor. New guy-victor-avila-dirks mostly vs RHPs (75% of all starting pitchers).
Avila should retire, he has taken way too many blows to the head. Now it seems he almost gets knocked out by foul tips that just graze the mask. Has to have some brain damage.
per MLive:
3 years/50M with a year 4 option with a 2M walk away or 15M to stay for year 4 will get it done
Why would that be a dealbreaker? The highest paid MLB manager is Scocscia at $5M. Four years of that is a Brandon League contract that doesn't count for luxury tax purposes.
sorry, I'm still stuck on Victor. Give Maddon whatever he wants.
Not surprising if you watched the way he was swinging late in the year, the last couple of months Cabrera would not even plant his rear/drive leg while swinging. Pretty amazing that he played the last half of 2013 with a torn groin, and last half 2014 with a broken bone in his foot and hardly missed any time. And put up good numbers.
I agree. In fact I would like him locked up for 4 just for the pre and post game interviews. Listening to Ausmus is like watching paint dry.
Give VMart 4 years and roll the dice, your paying him for this year in the deal which he was underpaid.Bojang0301 said:
