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RB Carlos Hyde, JAC (1 Viewer)

My issue with Hyde at his ADP is that he has a low ceiling in my projections due to what I predict will be a subpar offense.

Great between the tackles runner, but just not enough TDs or receiving yards.

 
TripItUp said:
My issue with Hyde at his ADP is that he has a low ceiling in my projections due to what I predict will be a subpar offense.

Great between the tackles runner, but just not enough TDs or receiving yards.
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Agreed, Hyde is being priced like he still plays on the Harbaugh 49ers, not the faded bootleg version of today.

 
TripItUp said:
My issue with Hyde at his ADP is that he has a low ceiling in my projections due to what I predict will be a subpar offense.

Great between the tackles runner, but just not enough TDs or receiving yards.
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Why is it a foregone conclusion that Hyde won't be in on passing plays? The scouting report on him out of college was that he had soft hands and could run routes well, and i recall him lining up out wide several times against Michigan State in the big ten championship game, and catching a couple passes. He also had 12 catches in limited snaps last season, playing for an OC that rarely throws to the RB. Was there some comment from the 49ers staff saying he wasn't going to be in on passing plays? I'm not being snarky, just honestly asking.

 
jtd13 said:
TripItUp said:
My issue with Hyde at his ADP is that he has a low ceiling in my projections due to what I predict will be a subpar offense.

Great between the tackles runner, but just not enough TDs or receiving yards.
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Why is it a foregone conclusion that Hyde won't be in on passing plays? The scouting report on him out of college was that he had soft hands and could run routes well, and i recall him lining up out wide several times against Michigan State in the big ten championship game, and catching a couple passes. He also had 12 catches in limited snaps last season, playing for an OC that rarely throws to the RB.Was there some comment from the 49ers staff saying he wasn't going to be in on passing plays? I'm not being snarky, just honestly asking.
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I guess it's because they paid money to bring in a Rb who excels at the passing game. Yes, Bush has been hurt a lot in his career but when he is on the field, he is one of the best receiving RB threats in the game.

It would be like, say, if you had a proven RB who everyone thought was great. Let's call him Shady, just for the example. ANd then a team signs Darren Sproles. You'd be crazy not to think the team brought in a specialist for a reason.

 
Bush is vastly overrated as a pass catcher. He used to be dynamic in space (when he caught it), but I don't think that's even true anymore. That doesn't mean he won't be out there on 3rd downs, but Hyde should catch some passes as well.

 
Shutout said:
jtd13 said:
TripItUp said:
My issue with Hyde at his ADP is that he has a low ceiling in my projections due to what I predict will be a subpar offense.

Great between the tackles runner, but just not enough TDs or receiving yards.
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Why is it a foregone conclusion that Hyde won't be in on passing plays? The scouting report on him out of college was that he had soft hands and could run routes well, and i recall him lining up out wide several times against Michigan State in the big ten championship game, and catching a couple passes. He also had 12 catches in limited snaps last season, playing for an OC that rarely throws to the RB.Was there some comment from the 49ers staff saying he wasn't going to be in on passing plays? I'm not being snarky, just honestly asking.
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I guess it's because they paid money to bring in a Rb who excels at the passing game. Yes, Bush has been hurt a lot in his career but when he is on the field, he is one of the best receiving RB threats in the game.

It would be like, say, if you had a proven RB who everyone thought was great. Let's call him Shady, just for the example. ANd then a team signs Darren Sproles. You'd be crazy not to think the team brought in a specialist for a reason.
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:goodposting:

 
Shutout said:
jtd13 said:
TripItUp said:
My issue with Hyde at his ADP is that he has a low ceiling in my projections due to what I predict will be a subpar offense.

Great between the tackles runner, but just not enough TDs or receiving yards.
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Why is it a foregone conclusion that Hyde won't be in on passing plays? The scouting report on him out of college was that he had soft hands and could run routes well, and i recall him lining up out wide several times against Michigan State in the big ten championship game, and catching a couple passes. He also had 12 catches in limited snaps last season, playing for an OC that rarely throws to the RB.Was there some comment from the 49ers staff saying he wasn't going to be in on passing plays? I'm not being snarky, just honestly asking.
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I guess it's because they paid money to bring in a Rb who excels at the passing game. Yes, Bush has been hurt a lot in his career but when he is on the field, he is one of the best receiving RB threats in the game.

It would be like, say, if you had a proven RB who everyone thought was great. Let's call him Shady, just for the example. ANd then a team signs Darren Sproles. You'd be crazy not to think the team brought in a specialist for a reason.
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I get that argument, and you may be right, but I don't think Bush is as good of a receiver as you're making him out to be. I'm not a Lions fan, but I live in Michigan so I watch most Lions games. I thought Riddick looked easily better than Bush in the receiving game last season. He's no Sproles.

 
jtd13 said:
Shutout said:
jtd13 said:
TripItUp said:
My issue with Hyde at his ADP is that he has a low ceiling in my projections due to what I predict will be a subpar offense.

Great between the tackles runner, but just not enough TDs or receiving yards.
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Why is it a foregone conclusion that Hyde won't be in on passing plays? The scouting report on him out of college was that he had soft hands and could run routes well, and i recall him lining up out wide several times against Michigan State in the big ten championship game, and catching a couple passes. He also had 12 catches in limited snaps last season, playing for an OC that rarely throws to the RB.Was there some comment from the 49ers staff saying he wasn't going to be in on passing plays? I'm not being snarky, just honestly asking.
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I guess it's because they paid money to bring in a Rb who excels at the passing game. Yes, Bush has been hurt a lot in his career but when he is on the field, he is one of the best receiving RB threats in the game.

It would be like, say, if you had a proven RB who everyone thought was great. Let's call him Shady, just for the example. ANd then a team signs Darren Sproles. You'd be crazy not to think the team brought in a specialist for a reason.
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I get that argument, and you may be right, but I don't think Bush is as good of a receiver as you're making him out to be. I'm not a Lions fan, but I live in Michigan so I watch most Lions games. I thought Riddick looked easily better than Bush in the receiving game last season. He's no Sproles.
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:yes:

 
Just for the heck of it, I went back and looked at Reggie Bush's Game-by-Game Stats for 2014. I think almost everyone in here would agree that the 2014 Detroit offense is a good deal better than the 2014 49ers offense. But Bush's stats really aren't that impressive. He was fine catching the ball, but he was mediocre running the ball.

Now, if you think the 49ers' offense (and defense) will be so bad this year that Bush will get a lot of playing time in passing formations, then you must also concede that Bush's health over the last few seasons has not been stellar. Simply put, I think this Bush signing is way overhyped. Hyde is a talented RB, and I just don't see Bush outplaying Hyde to the point that SF will severely decrease Hyde's touches.

 
Rotoworld:

Carlos Hyde rushed seven times for 39 yards and caught a six-yard pass in the 49ers' second preseason game Sunday night.

He's up to 45 yards on nine carries (5.0 YPC) through two preseason affairs. Hyde's teammates are a concern, but so far he has been mostly impressive in the month of August. He's a low-end RB2 fantasy pick with upside for more.

Aug 23 - 10:14 PM
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Hyde's physical transformation is similar to Bell's after his rookie year. Hard to believe it's the same guy I saw in college.

 
Wow, the 2015 SOD has revealed himself. Grats, Hyde owners.

Kicking myself for putting all Niners on my DND list.

 
Guess we will see next week when Abdullah goes against this same Vikings D, Yea, Hyde came to play but I didnt see a whole lot from the 11 guys trying to stop him either.

 
thatguy said:
Seekay said:
Judge Smails said:
He might be on a lot of championship rosters....
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lol after 1 week. come on. Sankey might be too.
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Elite talent is easily recognizable. Hyde clearly has it. The only thing that will stop him is injury.
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This. The 1 comparison that came to mind was Clinton Portis in his prime. Powerful runner with the elusiveness of a smaller back. He's going to be a monster. Also his hands are underrated.

Congrats to all who got this stud in rd 5+.

Heist.

 
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Da Gildz said:
The 1 comparison that came to mind was Clinton Portis in his prime. Powerful runner with the elusiveness of a smaller back. He's going to be a monster. Also his hands are underrated.
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I was going to disagree with your comparison, but it seems Portis is/was bigger than I realized,

Hyde still looks "stockier" to me.

 
Da Gildz said:
thatguy said:
Seekay said:
Judge Smails said:
He might be on a lot of championship rosters....
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lol after 1 week. come on. Sankey might be too.
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Elite talent is easily recognizable. Hyde clearly has it. The only thing that will stop him is injury.
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This.The 1 comparison that came to mind was Clinton Portis in his prime.
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LOL @ comparing him to Clinton Portis. That was the best comparison you could come up with?

 
kOOk said:
Da Gildz said:
thatguy said:
Seekay said:
Judge Smails said:
He might be on a lot of championship rosters....
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lol after 1 week. come on. Sankey might be too.
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Elite talent is easily recognizable. Hyde clearly has it. The only thing that will stop him is injury.
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This.The 1 comparison that came to mind was Clinton Portis in his prime.
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LOL @ comparing him to Clinton Portis. That was the best comparison you could come up with?
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Huh?

Portis was a beast. I'm assuming u only remember the late yrs..

 
Yes, this guy is a beast. I remember the Bills GM tried to trade up for him last year in the draft. Congrats to the Hyde owners!

 
I wanted him, in the 4th, at #52. He got snatched up at #50. I ended up with Yeldon. Yes, I am bitter.

 
being Ever the stock market serial trader.., is Hyde the ultimate sell high this week? For the most part their schedule is just brutal rest of season. Sorry, but this how my sick mind thinks... What a night for Hyde

 
Da Gildz said:
thatguy said:
Seekay said:
Judge Smails said:
He might be on a lot of championship rosters....
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lol after 1 week. come on. Sankey might be too.
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Elite talent is easily recognizable. Hyde clearly has it. The only thing that will stop him is injury.
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This.The 1 comparison that came to mind was Clinton Portis in his prime. Powerful runner with the elusiveness of a smaller back. He's going to be a monster. Also his hands are underrated.

Congrats to all who got this stud in rd 5+. their dynasty leagues

Heist.
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:bowtie:

 
iamkoza said:
being Ever the stock market serial trader.., is Hyde the ultimate sell high this week? For the most part their schedule is just brutal rest of season. Sorry, but this how my sick mind thinks...
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Stop thinking that way. You're only hurting yourself.

If you think you have a potential stud, KEEP HIM!!!

 
Ugh.

I drafted Hyde as a rookie last year in my dynasty draft, and this week I started Joique Bell over Hyde. That's what I get for going with the herd mentality. Almost every analyst in fantasy sports was saying that Hyde would be mediocre this season.

 
jdoggydogg said:
Ugh.

I drafted Hyde as a rookie last year in my dynasty draft, and this week I started Joique Bell over Hyde. That's what I get for going with the herd mentality. Almost every analyst in fantasy sports was saying that Hyde would be mediocre this season.
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it was kind of a lazy narrative that the team itself would be very bad.... and IMO, this SF team can still end up being a vary bad team this year. they play in a tough division and looking at their schedule there are not many more similar games against crap teams on the way. hyde though has consistently looked awesome this pre-season and now game 1. it remains to be seen if he can continue to produce good fantasy games even if the team itself is not winning.

 
Sell high if I've ever seen it. Between those two blathering idiots in the booth tonight and their national audience it's a perfect sell in re-draft. This team isn't that good. And Minnesota is worse. They both still suck. What's new? Trent Dilfer kept comparing Colin to a ferrari and thought Hyde was headed to the HOF. He fawned and screamed about his "hometown" for 3 hours on national TV.

Lots of people will listen to that stuff and buy it. Sell high tomorrow if you get the chance by the coffee maker.

 
kOOk said:
Sell high if I've ever seen it. Between those two blathering idiots in the booth tonight and their national audience it's a perfect sell in re-draft. This team isn't that good. And Minnesota is worse. They both still suck. What's new? Trent Dilfer kept comparing Colin to a ferrari and thought Hyde was headed to the HOF. He fawned and screamed about his "hometown" for 3 hours on national TV.

Lots of people will listen to that stuff and buy it. Sell high tomorrow if you get the chance by the coffee maker.
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Lol no thanks

 
kOOk said:
Sell high if I've ever seen it. Between those two blathering idiots in the booth tonight and their national audience it's a perfect sell in re-draft. This team isn't that good. And Minnesota is worse. They both still suck. What's new? Trent Dilfer kept comparing Colin to a ferrari and thought Hyde was headed to the HOF. He fawned and screamed about his "hometown" for 3 hours on national TV.

Lots of people will listen to that stuff and buy it. Sell high tomorrow if you get the chance by the coffee maker.
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If you own Hyde esp. in dynasty and sell him now you've got more balls than i do.

 
With the direction that the NFL is heading (pass pass pass) this is refreshing to see. The 49ers were running out 3 TE formations a ton. Hyde could have had a ton more yardage but he took himself out on a number of downs due to fatigue. People can say what they want about selling high but with the LACK of true BELL COW BACKS in the NFL I'm holding onto Hyde. True it's one game but with that system I'm holding. I'm buying the talent and the offensive game plan! It's fun to watch. Ask Matt Waldon about Carlos Hyde. I blame Harbaugh and his veteran loyalty for keeping Hyde buried last year. Bell COW!

 
Don't get me wrong the guy looked great but we all know that. Hello? He even has his own thread now for that spin move OMG!

I ask you, what other players could fetch more than Hyde after his big Monday Night TV highlight reel on the first week?

Don't be scurred, upgrade while you have the chance and reap the benefits of a great draft pick. (unless you totally believe in SF the "dumpster fire" all of a sudden)

 
kOOk said:
Don't get me wrong the guy looked great but we all know that. Hello? He even has his own thread now for that spin move OMG!

I ask you, what other players could fetch more than Hyde after his big Monday Night TV highlight reel on the first week?

Don't be scurred, upgrade while you have the chance and reap the benefits of a great draft pick. (unless you totally believe in SF the "dumpster fire" all of a sudden)
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You act like teams don't ever surprise people. We only see it every single year in this league. It's not a formality that SF will be bad because that was the consensus prior to yesterday.

Selling Hyde would be a damn crime and to suggest that to anyone after what we saw last night is downright foolish. This league is filled with mediocre RB's, so sell 1 that can be a special back. Great advice.

 
Yeah sell a rb who just put up 168 yds, 2tds, isn't in a rbbc, and plays for a team that wants to run the ball. Seems like a winning strategy to me.

 
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