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2 hours ago, Andrew74 said:

I liked the call back to Age of Ultron when she sneaked up on Agatha and touched her head to give her the hallucination (or whatever you call it).

Agatha mentions the Darkhold says the Scarlet Witch is more powerful than even the Sorcerer Supreme.  Interesting since the expectation is we will see some confrontation between Sr Stange and Wanda in MVoM movie.  Not being a comic book guy, is the Darkhold infallible?   Just hoping Scarlet Witch doesn’t become the magical Captain Marvel/Dues ex Machina since Dr Strange has shown himself quite powerful in his movies so far. 

I really liked the wigglywoo as well. 

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4 hours ago, DA RAIDERS said:

was really hoping for a dr strange appearance.  nice tie in at the end though.

the dark hold is the book from AoS, correct?

where did white vision go?  did i miss that?

and interesting that wanda has some of the mind stone in her.  i wonder how literal that is supposed to be.

AoS? Darkhold?

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1 hour ago, Shatner! said:

Agents of Shield. The Darkhold book was featured in a storyline.

Also on Runaways..

2 hours ago, jobarules said:

Ronald Bohner :lmao:

Ralph :)

 

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So it ended up being very different than what I thought the endgame (pardon the pun) would be, but man I don't know how anyone thought that was a letdown. I was near tears and could have easily cried if I didn't fight it so I could keep an imaginary man card.  This was just tremendously well done from start to finish and I really don't have a gripe at all.  Any gripes really stem from expectations we built ourselves or worse, by reading things online that could happen that end up leaving you disappointed.  This show was flat out great and it really puts her power in the proper place in the MCU. More powerful than the Sorcerer Supreme should set up quite a showdown.

I'm in on all these Marvel shows of course but my expectation level for the Cap and Falcon buddy cop show is lower.  I am more excited for Loki, but I'm sure I will enjoy the new show in 2 weeks.

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2 hours ago, jobarules said:

Felt like a movie and also very sad. White Vision is still out there and she is using her powers to try and get her kids back, right?

Yep, that was the end credit scene.  She is studying up to be able to go to one of the multiverses and pull her kids into hers I believe.  And Hex Vision essentially downloaded all of his memories into White Vision, so once White Vision processes that, I think he'll be back with Wanda.  He already developed the human eyes.

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9 minutes ago, Corporation said:

Yep, that was the end credit scene.  She is studying up to be able to go to one of the multiverses and pull her kids into hers I believe.  And Hex Vision essentially downloaded all of his memories into White Vision, so once White Vision processes that, I think he'll be back with Wanda.  He already developed the human eyes.

Hex vision didn't have those memories. 

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1 minute ago, Drunken Cowboy said:
12 minutes ago, Corporation said:

Yep, that was the end credit scene.  She is studying up to be able to go to one of the multiverses and pull her kids into hers I believe.  And Hex Vision essentially downloaded all of his memories into White Vision, so once White Vision processes that, I think he'll be back with Wanda.  He already developed the human eyes.

Hex vision didn't have those memories. 

Yeah, I'm not sure.  I believe she implanted some of the memories in him, but clearly not all.  I should have said unlocked the memories, because he said White Vision had them but couldn't access them. Regardless, I think this is a step to introduce Vision back into MCU. I don't think she'll pluck Hex Vision out of the multiverse that I'm pretty sure she'll be trying to grab her kids from, but who knows.

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7 hours ago, Corporation said:

Yeah, I'm not sure.  I believe she implanted some of the memories in him, but clearly not all.  I should have said unlocked the memories, because he said White Vision had them but couldn't access them. Regardless, I think this is a step to introduce Vision back into MCU. I don't think she'll pluck Hex Vision out of the multiverse that I'm pretty sure she'll be trying to grab her kids from, but who knows.

I think Hex Vision unlocked White Vision and passed on some pieces of the mind stone that Wanda used to create him to make that possible. Same way that SWORD couldn’t get White Vision to turn on without Wanda’s energy — mind stone energy. 

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Loved it. Crazy how the show started so slow and built to a last episode that was a total frenzy. A perfect example of Wanda trying to just be normal and boring but ending up the Scarlet Witch embracing chaos magic.

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9 hours ago, Drunken Cowboy said:

Hex vision didn't have those memories. 

Hex Vision had humanity. When he touched White Visions chip, he gave him humanity (and I guess Vision's memories). That's what it looked like to me.

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My only gripe was the Pieter casting. It was teasing the audience just because they can. They could have picked any other actor to play Peitro, they specifically picked him to get a reaction that they had zero intention of paying off. 
 


 

 

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5 minutes ago, The Duff Man said:

My only gripe was the Pieter casting. It was teasing the audience just because they can. They could have picked any other actor to play Peitro, they specifically picked him to get a reaction that they had zero intention of paying off. 
 


 

 

Also, everybody got all excited with the Ralph thing and he just ended up as Ralph Boner. 
 

 

I loved that. People shouldn’t get so spun up with their own predictions. 

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46 minutes ago, Capella said:

Also, everybody got all excited with the Ralph thing and he just ended up as Ralph Boner. 
 

 

I loved that. People shouldn’t get so spun up with their own predictions. 

The Ralph thing?

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23 minutes ago, jobarules said:

The Ralph thing?

People on Twitter and there emergency awesome YouTube guy speculated he may be Mephisto or some other god-like character. 
 

He was just in fact, Ralph Boner 

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15 hours ago, Capella said:

Also Ralph Boner is 100% Jimmy’s witness protection program guy imo 

Then his name isn't actually Ralph Bohner.

ETA: Rambeau read his name off of his ID and when she asked if that was his name, he just shrugged.

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17 hours ago, Jayrod said:

Then his name isn't actually Ralph Bohner.

ETA: Rambeau read his name off of his ID and when she asked if that was his name, he just shrugged.

Well yeah, it's his name now. 

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20 hours ago, DA RAIDERS said:

I was surprised this was not paid off.  

I feel some of these things, like this and and aerospace engineer, will be paid off later. (Of course the skrull might be the payoff for the engineer)

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11 hours ago, -OZ- said:

I feel some of these things, like this and and aerospace engineer, will be paid off later. (Of course the skrull might be the payoff for the engineer)

The Skrull is taking her to Fury, I believe

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On 3/6/2021 at 10:01 PM, Capella said:

Also Ralph Boner is 100% Jimmy’s witness protection program guy imo 

I read an internet theory today that said Ralph IS the witness protection guy, and the reason that Jimmy Woo is his agent is that Jimmy is the FBI specialist for people with powers, and Ralph is being protected by the FBI because he's a cross-multiverse refugee from the X-Men Universe who's name is, well, Peter Maximoff.  :excited:

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On 3/6/2021 at 10:00 PM, Capella said:

People on Twitter and there emergency awesome YouTube guy speculated he may be Mephisto or some other god-like character. 
 

He was just in fact, Ralph Boner 

That's what makes Soprano's so great. There are multiple dead end story lines that always keep you guessing. 

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After reflecting a bit, had there not been so much speculation and looking for the bigger meaning, seems the show was very self contained, much like any of the movies pre-IW.  Marvel has done such a good job with easter eggs, and too many fans with time on their hands have linked seemingly throw away lines in one movie to another years later that everyone was thinking bigger then it was.  Paul Bettany and Mandalorian probably also fed into that.  If you look back at most of the movies, they are all very much 1 story, with some minor details linking to the rest of the MCU.  WandaVision did that over 9 weeks instead of 2-3 hours.  

 

Now the more teasers I see from Falcon and Winter Soldier the more I am looking forward to that.  The latest showing them argue over Wizards vs Sorcerers and Dr Strange!

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17 minutes ago, Leeroy Jenkins said:

So how did Agatha give Ralph super speed and memories?

With that necklace that was glowing purple.  When Monica removed it, he was plain Ralph again and scared.

And they weren’t actual memories, they were Agatha’s interpretation of what Pietro’s memories might have been (“shot like a chump for no reason” likely isn’t how actual Pietro would have viewed what happened)

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1 hour ago, Ted Lange as your Bartender said:

And they weren’t actual memories, they were Agatha’s interpretation of what Pietro’s memories might have been (“shot like a chump for no reason” likely isn’t how actual Pietro would have viewed what happened)

Bet you didn't see that coming

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14 minutes ago, Corporation said:

WandaVision Showrunner Matt Shakman answers a ton of questions in this zoom:

https://bleedingcool.com/tv/wandavision-matt-shakman-tackles-pretty-much-every-question-you-have/

 

I like this bit:

 Big Bad was always grief and loss. Doctor Strange was never going to show up as a Deux ex Machina to save the day. Wanda doesn't need someone else to save her. This is her story, and she was going to save herself. 

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4 minutes ago, Drunken Cowboy said:
18 minutes ago, Corporation said:

WandaVision Showrunner Matt Shakman answers a ton of questions in this zoom:

https://bleedingcool.com/tv/wandavision-matt-shakman-tackles-pretty-much-every-question-you-have/

 

I like this bit:

 Big Bad was always grief and loss. Doctor Strange was never going to show up as a Deux ex Machina to save the day. Wanda doesn't need someone else to save her. This is her story, and she was going to save herself. 

This series was so good.  I like how he said he didn't anticipate people speculating about who the engineer was would be such a big deal and they wish they would have gotten in front of it.  I think most people who were disappointed in the finale had built up expectations through their own speculation or worse, read the most outlandish fan theories and wanted it to be true.  WandaVision takes her through the stages of grief and I think is just a classic.

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Surprised no one has posted about Falcon and Winter Soldier yet. I had a bit of insomnia last night so ended up catching it right at midnight. Will probably give it a rewatch, but seems to be setting up nicely as expected towards a good cop/bad cop type movie with family drama and character development storylines intertwined.

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1 hour ago, acarey50 said:

Surprised no one has posted about Falcon and Winter Soldier yet. I had a bit of insomnia last night so ended up catching it right at midnight. Will probably give it a rewatch, but seems to be setting up nicely as expected towards a good cop/bad cop type movie with family drama and character development storylines intertwined.

Really excited for it also

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4 hours ago, acarey50 said:

Surprised no one has posted about Falcon and Winter Soldier yet. I had a bit of insomnia last night so ended up catching it right at midnight. Will probably give it a rewatch, but seems to be setting up nicely as expected towards a good cop/bad cop type movie with family drama and character development storylines intertwined.

I liked it. Even hero's can't escape the real life consequences from being gone for 5 years. 

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Good show. Great opportunity for Marvel to really flesh out the humanity of its characters that there really isn't alot of time for on the big screen.

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I liked it, but I think Marvel was wise to release WandaVision first.  The buzz around that unique storyline drove viewers to it.  I think people are staying because they know Marvel puts out a good product.

It was well done and like others have mentioned, I like how they are exploring how heroes go about their "real lives". I won't reveal too much about the episode but you could feel the betrayal twist at the end.  Should be interesting.

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