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3 minutes ago, NewlyRetired said:

Can someone name the 4 horsemen of the apocolypse in the trailer for me?

Storm (Alexandra Shipp), Magneto (Michael Fassbender), Archangel (Ben Hardy) and Psylocke (Olivia Munn). 

 

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4 minutes ago, LAUNCH said:

 

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Storm (Alexandra Shipp), Magneto (Michael Fassbender), Archangel (Ben Hardy) and Psylocke (Olivia Munn).

 

The last two I knew but did not realize that both

Storm and Magneto

side with Apocolypse.  But the trailer does seem to indicate that pretty clearly.

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1 hour ago, NewlyRetired said:

The last two I knew but did not realize that both

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side with Apocolypse.  But the trailer does seem to indicate that pretty clearly.

Apocalypse's Horsemen aren't always completely willing accomplices.  Some join him for the promise of power, but there have been a few times when he's used brainwashing to get them to follow him.

Also, shouldn't this move to a different thread as the X-Men are not part of the MCU?

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5 minutes ago, bcdjr1 said:

Apocalypse's Horsemen aren't always completely willing accomplices.  Some join him for the promise of power, but there have been a few times when he's used brainwashing to get them to follow him.

Also, shouldn't this move to a different thread as the X-Men are not part of the MCU?

like the Trump thread?

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I know the Xmen time line has been re-set and that continuity in general is almost impossible to worry about now so I am asking only for my own knowledge.

Angel first appears in XMen 3 in the 80's as a very young man.

Angel I believe in the comics later becomes Archangel.

Apocolypse is set in the 80's I believe and as such Archangel looks way too old.

 

do I have this right?

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23 minutes ago, NewlyRetired said:

I know the Xmen time line has been re-set and that continuity in general is almost impossible to worry about now so I am asking only for my own knowledge.

Angel first appears in XMen 3 in the 80's as a very young man.

Angel I believe in the comics later becomes Archangel.

Apocolypse is set in the 80's I believe and as such Archangel looks way too old.

 

do I have this right?

IIRC the last X-men reset the timelines to the point that I don't believe anything but first class is accurate.

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7 minutes ago, Hawks64 said:

IIRC the last X-men reset the timelines to the point that I don't believe anything but first class is accurate.

Not exactly.  Singer says that X-Men, X2, and Last Stand still exist, but they could end up changing.  I think he's going at it like Abrams did with his reboot of Star Trek.

Here's an article where they explain it with quotes from Singer.

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1 hour ago, NewlyRetired said:

I know the Xmen time line has been re-set and that continuity in general is almost impossible to worry about now so I am asking only for my own knowledge.

Angel first appears in XMen 3 in the 80's as a very young man.

Angel I believe in the comics later becomes Archangel.

Apocolypse is set in the 80's I believe and as such Archangel looks way too old.

 

do I have this right?

In X3 Angel appears but its not set in the 80s.  Doesnt the opening say its the "not to distant future" (Basically set in the time it was released)  

His Dad is the one that creates the "cure".  Angel saves him when he gets thrown off the roof in the final battle on Alcatraz.

The original XMen in the comics are Beast, Cyclops, Jean, Iceman, Angel (who later becomes Archangel).

First Class is set in the 60s and I believe DOFP is in the 70s so Apocalypse may be set in the 80s?  But with the DOFP reset who knows what the continuity is.

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13 minutes ago, B Maverick said:

In X3 Angel appears but its not set in the 80s.  Doesnt the opening say its the "not to distant future" (Basically set in the time it was released) 

X3 has a flash back scene of Warren as a little kid trying to cut his wings off in the bathroom.  In the main movie the character is in his 20's so that puts the flash back scene some where in the 80's I think roughly.

 

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3 minutes ago, NewlyRetired said:

X3 has a flash back scene of Warren as a little kid trying to cut his wings off in the bathroom.  In the main movie the character is in his 20's so that puts the flash back scene some where in the 80's I think roughly.

 

Good call, I forgot about that scene. As much as I have enjoyed the XMen movies, I have been disappointed at how they set the ages, time lines, continuity, etc.

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Here is a quote from Singer that confuses me

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“So what I’m doing with these in-betweenqueels is playing with time’s immutability and the prequel concept, meaning that yes we erased those storylines and anything can happen. That means the audience goes into the movie thinking that anything can happen. I mean anything, anyone could die."

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If the time line has been reset to what we know at the end of Days of Future Past, don't we know at least for certain which characters (Bobby, Wolverine, Rogue, Storm, Cyclops, Professor X, Jean, Scot, Kitty, Beast and others) are alive in the future?

Or is the ending of Days of Future Past on a different time line from the upcoming Apocalypse movie?

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5 minutes ago, NewlyRetired said:

Here is a quote from Singer that confuses me

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“So what I’m doing with these in-betweenqueels is playing with time’s immutability and the prequel concept, meaning that yes we erased those storylines and anything can happen. That means the audience goes into the movie thinking that anything can happen. I mean anything, anyone could die."

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If the time line has been reset to what we know at the end of Days of Future Past, don't we know at least for certain which characters (Bobby, Rogue, Storm, Cyclops, Professor X, Jean, Scot, Kitty, Beast and others) are alive in the future?

Or is the ending of Days of Future Past on a different time line from the upcoming Apocalypse movie?

And does Wolverine have his adamantium skeleton in the future?

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What Singer's saying is this:  DOFP showed that some events in the timeline can be changed.  Going forward, the movies are moving toward what is seen at the end of DOFP, but that's not a guarantee that they have to end up there.  Basically, he can do whatever he wants.  That's why I was equating it to what Abrams did with Star Trek.  Certain things still happen the same way:  Kirk cheats to be the Kobayashi Maru, becomes the captain of the Enterprise after Pike, meets up with Khan, etc.  But it doesn't have to happen in the same way, and other things may not happen at all or in a different order as well as things that didn't happen before can happen.

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2 minutes ago, bcdjr1 said:

What Singer's saying is this:  DOFP showed that some events in the timeline can be changed.  Going forward, the movies are moving toward what is seen at the end of DOFP, but that's not a guarantee that they have to end up there.  Basically, he can do whatever he wants.  That's why I was equating it to what Abrams did with Star Trek.  Certain things still happen the same way:  Kirk cheats to be the Kobayashi Maru, becomes the captain of the Enterprise after Pike, meets up with Khan, etc.  But it doesn't have to happen in the same way, and other things may not happen at all or in a different order as well as things that didn't happen before can happen.

Star Trek is clearly Timeline A vs Timeline B.  That is very easy to understand.

Xmen is this:

Timeline A: Xmen 1, 2 and 3

Timeline B: First Class, Days of Future Past in the 70's

Timeline C: Days of Future Past in the present when Logan wakes up.

 

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5 minutes ago, NewlyRetired said:

Star Trek is clearly Timeline A vs Timeline B.  That is very easy to understand.

Xmen is this:

Timeline A: Xmen 1, 2 and 3

Timeline B: First Class, Days of Future Past in the 70's

Timeline C: Days of Future Past in the present when Logan wakes up.

 

If you really want to complicate it, you should throw in X-Men Origins: Wolverine.  That movie covers the time before, during, and after DOFP.

And you didn't account for the part of DOFP when Logan first gets sent back in time, which would be timeline C-A, maybe?  The one that gets rewritten by the end of the movie.

But the end result is like Star Trek.  You have one set of events that happened with X-Men movies from the aughts like all the Star Trek shows and the movies before Abrams' reboot, and then you have the events that are happening since First Class, like with the Abrams' Star Trek movies.  Like with Star Trek, all the X-Men movies are part of the same universe.  But they've made it so that where they go from here is not dictated by anything that's been shown in the past, even though what was shown in the past takes place in the future, just like with Star Trek.

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1 hour ago, NewlyRetired said:

I have watched the trailer with Spiderman probably 5 times now and I think I missed at least 9 of the 10 things he mentioned in that video above.  Very cool stuff especially who is in the freeze chamber.

Haha, same here too.  Plus when he zooms in on the suit it looks much better then originally thought.  

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I believe Scarlet Witch falls under the same sort of deal as Quicksilver.  Elizabeth Olsen wouldn't play SW if they decided to include her in the X-Men movies just like the guy who plays Quicksilver in the X-Men movies isn't the same actor who plays him in the MCU movies.

In DOFP, there was a line cut where Quicksilver tells his younger sister to go upstairs and bug her older sister, which was to imply Wanda.  The younger sister possibly being Lorna Dane.  Other than that, I don't think there's been any plans made to include Scarlet Witch in any X-Men movies.

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25 minutes ago, bcdjr1 said:

I believe Scarlet Witch falls under the same sort of deal as Quicksilver.  Elizabeth Olsen wouldn't play SW if they decided to include her in the X-Men movies just like the guy who plays Quicksilver in the X-Men movies isn't the same actor who plays him in the MCU movies.

In DOFP, there was a line cut where Quicksilver tells his younger sister to go upstairs and bug her older sister, which was to imply Wanda.  The younger sister possibly being Lorna Dane.  Other than that, I don't think there's been any plans made to include Scarlet Witch in any X-Men movies.

I know why it isn't the same actors.  It just seems odd to me to have Quicksilver and not Scarlet Witch.  Was just wondering if anyone had heard anything.

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3 minutes ago, Thunderlips said:

As long as they don't hit us with an origin story.  Just treat it like the Bana Hulk and the Norton Hulk.....

He also added that the film would not be an origin story for the character, saying, “In Spider-Man’s very specific case, where there have been two retellings of that origin in the last whatever it’s been – [thirteen] years – for us we are going to take it for granted that people know that, and the specifics. But... t is inherent to who his character is. [W]e want to reveal it in different ways and spend much more time focusing on this young high school kid in the MCU dealing with his powers.” 

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18 minutes ago, AnonymousBob said:

He also added that the film would not be an origin story for the character, saying, “In Spider-Man’s very specific case, where there have been two retellings of that origin in the last whatever it’s been – [thirteen] years – for us we are going to take it for granted that people know that, and the specifics. But... t is inherent to who his character is. [W]e want to reveal it in different ways and spend much more time focusing on this young high school kid in the MCU dealing with his powers.” 

Cool.  Randy immortalized the characte BOOOONNNNEEEESAWWWW!....... It would be impossible to replace him in a Spiderman origin story. 

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17 hours ago, massraider said:

It's clearly old news, and has to do with the Sony/Marvel deal, yes?

How is it that Sony ended up with this control over Spider-Man anyway?

When Marvel was hurting for cash during the crash in the comics industry that happened in the 90s they sold the movie rights to most of their top properties. It's almost hard to remember now but Iron Man and the Avengers were considered B level characters back then. 

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4 hours ago, NewlyRetired said:

Dr. Strange trailer is out

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wwcSki7r9cQ

It'll be interesting to see how magic goes over with the public. They made sure to avoid it with Thor, saying Asgardians have greatly advanced science that just seems like magic to mortals.

They say that early Doc Strange comics were a little like an acid trip, visually.

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12 minutes ago, bcdjr1 said:

It'll be interesting to see how magic goes over with the public. They made sure to avoid it with Thor, saying Asgardians have greatly advanced science that just seems like magic to mortals.

They say that early Doc Strange comics were a little like an acid trip, visually.

people seem to like Harry Potter, LOTR, The Hobbit, Star Wars (yes, I'm equating the force to magic) and many others.

 

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