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I am a comics guy (somewhat, not to the level of my son) but this guy is so detailed with freeze frame highlighting stuff it's just amazing. I sent a note to @B Maverickwith some of the ones we found, but this guy found so much more (and proved one of the ones my son thought was wrong).
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Maybe we give until Monday since spoilers aren't working in case people want to watch it over the weekend?Yep
Things definitely moved quickly this episode.
Do we give people today before posting about the actual show? I'll just say for those waiting for a "
I don't think so. Geraldine was, I think she was in the toy copter that got pulled in. Agnes I think will play a bigger role but is not a SWORD agent. I think a lot of the other people in town just got pulled into (the thing that is happening that I'm trying not to say since spoilers don't work).
I feel like you can say it. Write ***SPOILER*** or something. We should be able to talk about the show, if somebody hasn’t seen it yet then hit the bricks till you do.
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Good stuff, don’t hold this back lol.
I think he will be. I think somewhere the original Vision's body is being held, but she created the new Vision (like she did her twins) in her world. In the comics, her twins "with" Vision were really just her magic, Vision couldn't be the father. I think the same here, she has created her twins (and Vision) this time. You have to think they want the Vision character back, but couldn't because of the infinity stone that powered him. This allows them to bring him back, along with mutant kids who can be used in a Young Avengers project (that's where Tommy and Billy end up in the comics).
Its also been slow action wise...but pretty sure all hell is pretty close to breaking loose.
Yeah with news reports stating that Marvel is spending upwards of $25M per episode, given the special effects so far I assume that "banked" budget will be showing up more and more in the upcoming episodes.
Very good point....you didn't expect Lucielle Ball to whip out a Ray gun and start blasting fools either though when you watched I Love Lucy.
@Corporation (or anyone else who follows the recent-ish comics closely) : Are Wanda's powers and Legion's (David's) powers as similar as they seem to be? I'm coming to these characters from their respective film and TV appearances with no background from the comics.Corporation said:
I know these things but don't have any idea what is going on exactly. I know this,my wife and I LOVE this show.
So I haven't seen the Legion TV series so I can't speak from that. Legion is the son of Professor X, and he has split personality syndrome. Each one of the split personalities have their own mutant powers (a lot overlap with Scarlet Witch). I think they are somewhat similar in that their mental state somewhat caps tapping their full power.
We think that Wanda has a fragile mental state (from the movies being buried under rubble staring at a Stark bomb that didn't go off, losing her parents, being subjected to hydra experiments with the mind stone) that finally snapped (thanos pun intended) when Vision was killed. We think that this snap has resulted in Wanda creating an alternate reality bubble around a real life town (Westview) where she controls everything in there. She's trying to recreate what she thinks is the perfect life experience, and because her own life has sucked, all she knows to draw from are cheesy family sitcoms from the 50s, 60s, and now 70s. She can manipulate time and matter as has been shown multiple times in the episodes.
Thanks GBs and to the rest of you for the comments, helps clear stuff up.Corporation said:
When I read that now, I'm not sure I answered it very clearly. When Cap asked if Vision really alive, my answer (and this is only speculation so of course I could be wrong) is that a version of Vision is really alive, brought about by Wanda's magic. This Vision is as close to the real Vision that Wanda could conjure, but it would explain some things like why he can't remember some things and why a piece of gum would mess up his insides (although I think that was just sitcom campiness).
There is also the question of how far Shuri got in Infinity War in analyzing him. Was she able to dl any or all his consciousness before trying to remove the stone and keep him intact?
You're right, I couldn't remember where his body ended up. I knew it had to be under lock and key. I don't think the Vision in the bubble is the same Vision being worked on, I think it is a construct of her magic, but who knows maybe she broke into Wakanda and stole the body.
Yes, but they don't need to deal with it yet.......There's also that very unfortunate and tragic issue with T'Chala to deal with too
I would think you are correct and he's a construct of her mind and powers, but you never know.
Daisy has been rumored. Would love to see her move into the larger MCU and of course would love to have Coulson back.lakerstan said:
Yes on Monica, but this hasn't been established in the show. I imagine the next episode will establish her as Monica as they debrief her, but we can definitely speculate that she is SWORD based on her necklace. I think Fury and SWORD are leading a rescue mission, not realizing that it is actually Wanda who has created all this.lakerstan said:
Hydra is definitely in play with all the commercials having reference to them. Hydra leaders (Strucker in particular) are the ones who experimented on Wanda and Pietro so I'm not sure if her mind is just pulling them subconsciously into the commercials, or if they are actively at work. The last commercial was for Hydra soap, and there was an Agents of Shield reference where Coulson in the framework mentioned that Hydra produced soap to help control the minds of the masses.
It also could be just during that era Hydra did exist...but then again there has to be some meaning behind it.
I have the think the meaning behind it has to do with Strucker/Hydra and the initial experiments put on Wanda/Pietro. I do think this is Wanda's subconscious creating this tv land. She reached a breaking point after end game and created this dream town/life in Westview. Her past troubles her, but keeps bubbling up subconsciously, such as the commercials. I think Agnes/Harkness is there to help guide her in some manner. This Vision was made from her memories, and the real android body is somewhere else. With the mind stone gone, so is his personality. The fact he is funnier and more human like makes me think it's Wanda's version of him, while his real android body is held up somewhere.It also could be just during that era Hydra did exist...but then again there has to be some meaning behind it.
Completely overlooked that, nice call back to the show.
This makes sense although I wouldn't be so sure about the mind stone and its affects since we do not really know how far Shuri got it removing the stone and keeping Vision intact.
There was an older Justice League cartoon where a kid did something similar trapping people in his ideallic/ imaginary town. Your theory seems to fit what's been shown so far.
