Anarchy99
Footballguy
I don’t think botched is the right word. They weren’t going to pay him near what he wanted. So they tagged him. He’s good, but he’s not worth Top 5 offensive lineman money.
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I think the fact Onwenu outperformed him as a rookie sixth rounder put things in perspective in terms of money deserved. Let Jets overpay him I guess.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
Belichick praised him prior to when we lost against Tennessee. It would be a great signing. Fingers crossed.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
Anarchy99
Footballguy
They are in on Curtis Samuel. I have heard they are talking to Golladay (although that one seems sketchy). Pass rushers have been getting paid, so they might wait for cheaper options.
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
HUGE signing. Jonnu >>>> Rudolph (at this point in his career) and Henry.
Ecstatic with this news!
Ecstatic with this news!
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
Now if we can just land Marvin Jones or Curtis Samuel and call it a day....
Samuel, ok. But Jones will be an overpay. He’s going to get a huge deal. I doubt this is a realistic signing given his age and what Belichick is doing. He’s not investing heavy on long in the tooth types. But I could be wrong.
Not that you need to change moniker, but Kraft manufacturing wasn’t cheese and macaroni. I believe he was a woods, pulp, paper manufacturer.Thats two guys that are 26 so far, nice to see guys brought in with some solid prime years in front of them
I think it might be a situation where he see ahead and not hindsight. If he built teams based on hindsight we’d all be still pissing in the horse troff at Sullivan stadium. He and his staff have been following players since their high school years.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
Free agents reset the market all the time. If Kelce were a free agent, he'd get way more than Smith did. But he's not.
On a side note, Smith becomes the highest non-QB skilled position player in Patriots history with his $12.5M per year average.
Kraft...
Footballguy
Username isn't Patriots related. It was shortened here years ago from "IndividuallyWrapedKraftSingles". I've always been a fan of Kraft cheese food.
bostonfred
Footballguy
I'd still like to get Rudolph. And trade up for Lance so he can learn from cam. Build the Baltimore offense but with belichick.
bostonfred
Footballguy
https://twitter.com/patspulpit/status/1371505493391314948?s=19
On that note it looks like they are kicking the tires on upgrading the running back position
And also that the rb market is pretty competitive right now
On that note it looks like they are kicking the tires on upgrading the running back position
And also that the rb market is pretty competitive right now
Anarchy99
Footballguy
Well, before the free agency flurry of news, they were talking about this on the radio. It was unanimous that they felt they would go defense with their first pick (and they could even trade down). And they felt Cam would start all season (also unanimous). They felt they might look at QB options in the 2nd or 3rd round (say Trask as an example), but they felt they wouldn't burn a first on one. The only exception would be if one of the main guys was in a free fall, in which case they might trade back into the first round to take a guy that had fallen into the 25-30 range. But they seemed pretty resolute that Cam was going to be the starter all year (which didn't wow me).
Anarchy99
Footballguy
I saw / heard this too . . . but who's really out there at RB? Conner? Drake? Gurley? Fournette? Bell? Mack? Not really sure that RB is a dire position of need or that any significant upgrade would be worth the money.
I doubt that Belichick would over pay for RB. He’s done very well at cultivating production at RBs with little money spent. He knows how draft those, ol, dL, and special teamers. He should spend free agent money on pass catchers because he’s not drafting those very well.
Obviously, but let's not act like they've been perfect as talent evaluators. When you pay way up for potential your margin of error decreases substantially- he needs to be really, really good just to justify that contract, and there's very little chance that it turns out to be a "bargain".
Kelce just signed his extension in August. Sure, he wasn't a FA, but KC lowered his near term cap hit with the deal so it's not like he had zero leverage. It's a lot of money for a guy who has been more potential than production so far.
Boston
Footballguy
RB is a sneaky need for them...Harris and Michel are somewhat similar and Michel is probably on his last year here...It is time to move on from Burkhead, I like him but he can not stay on the field...White is a FA and may move on and no one really knows how they feel about JJ Taylor...I can’t click thru on this link but the guy I would like them to go after is Jamaal Williams, he a well rounded back and you can probably get him at an affordable price.
From this article it looks like Kelce's deal was a very team friendly deal. Looks like he restructured to help the team out. From the article:
The Chiefs have maximum salary cap flexible because of how Kelce's contract is structured. Should Kelce's skills rapidly start to diminish, Kansas City can exit the deal as early as 2022 without any salary cap consequences.
Kelce didn't get enough money in his existing contract years or security to give up four years. The Chiefs essentially have four team options with Kelce starting in 2022, his first new contract year.
One can only assume that Kelce really wants to be in KC and that the $$ wasn't his first priority.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
