Henry Ford
Footballguy
I just got an overturn on a motion in limine I lost where the defendant argued that a letter its general manager wrote was hearsay.
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The Lawyer Thread Where We Stop Ruining Other Threads (3 Viewers)
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the rover
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CletiusMaximus
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Note to my outside counsel: You should buy a silent keyboard. When I hear you furiously typing during our phone calls, it fills me with rage. You're doing a decent job, but I'm already doing the math as to what it would set us back to replace you.
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
I enjoy when guys and gals are eating while on the phone. I've asked a few times what they are having because it sounds good.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Attorneys practicing in Arizona (looking at you, Zow):
I need to know whether anyone puts out an Eason's-type book of damage awards for Arizona. I have a friend who lives there I'm trying to point in the right direction regarding a soft-tissue injury in a car accident, and I just have no sense of what's a reasonable award for a 6-month treatment soft tissue injury from a rear-end collision. He wants to handle this himself, and I just can't really advise him on this.
I need to know whether anyone puts out an Eason's-type book of damage awards for Arizona. I have a friend who lives there I'm trying to point in the right direction regarding a soft-tissue injury in a car accident, and I just have no sense of what's a reasonable award for a 6-month treatment soft tissue injury from a rear-end collision. He wants to handle this himself, and I just can't really advise him on this.
rockaction
Footballguy
Henry Ford
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
Don't worry. http://www.grammarbook.com/numbers/numbers.asp But thanks.
Policies and philosophies vary from medium to medium. The two most influential guidebooks for publishers, editors, and writers, the Associated Press Stylebook and the Chicago Manual of Style, have different approaches. The first recommends spelling out the numbers one through nine and using figures thereafter; Chicago recommends spelling out the numbers one through ninety-nine and using figures thereafter.
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rockaction
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Where did you go, Hanky??
Henry Ford
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rockaction
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Henry Ford
Footballguy
Interesting question when you bring up legal writing.
(although not that interesting, given that the Blue Book is a system of citation, not style)
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rockaction
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Henry Ford
Footballguy
Well, now that we've established that - any thoughts on an Eason's style book in Arizona?
Henry Ford
Footballguy
And if you're ever interested in learning AP style:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCQQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwp.vcu.edu%2Fdatajournalism%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fsites%2F2205%2F2013%2F06%2FAP-style-at-a-glance-numerals.doc&ei=ixovVKC6NMKnyATR2YGACA&usg=AFQjCNGiM-W_q03kj8cu8tWIJhNi3fxu4w&bvm=bv.76802529,d.cGU
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCQQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwp.vcu.edu%2Fdatajournalism%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fsites%2F2205%2F2013%2F06%2FAP-style-at-a-glance-numerals.doc&ei=ixovVKC6NMKnyATR2YGACA&usg=AFQjCNGiM-W_q03kj8cu8tWIJhNi3fxu4w&bvm=bv.76802529,d.cGU
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rockaction
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Henry Ford
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rockaction
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That's what you've got after you bolded it? That's an age?
Pshaw.
Well, love you...
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Literally thousands of scholars know you're wrong.
Example:
http://diabetes.diabetesjournals.org/content/60/2/477.full.pdf
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rockaction
Footballguy
Henry Ford
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Henry Ford
Footballguy
Also, I have no idea what I could possibly have posted in the Shark Pool that has you riled up.
rockaction
Footballguy
Forget it: Chicago Manual Of Style
7.24: Possessive with genitive
... The genitive here implies of. in three days’ time. an hour’s delay (or a one-hour
delay). six months’ leave of absence (or a six-month leave of absence)
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rockaction
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Henry Ford
Footballguy
It's a good thing I don't use the Chicago Manual of Style for my footballguys posts. Boy would there be egg on my face.
rockaction
Footballguy
krista4
Footballguy
Ah, didn't know there was a backstory. It appears HF didn't know, either. I suppose we've had worse stuff posted in this thread. The backstory would be more interesting, though.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
I assumed he was upset about the thread where northerners were arguing that southerners are uneducated hicks. I spent quite some time trying to teach him basic grammar in that thread. It wasn't in the Shark Pool, though, so unless he's wrong again, he's not referring to that.Ah, didn't know there was a backstory. It appears HF didn't know, either. I suppose we've had worse stuff posted in this thread. The backstory would be more interesting, though.
krista4
Footballguy
Oh, OK. I was wrong; that is not more interesting.I assumed he was upset about the thread where northerners were arguing that southerners are uneducated hicks. I spent quite some time trying to teach him basic grammar in that thread. It wasn't in the Shark Pool, though, so unless he's wrong again, he's not referring to that.Ah, didn't know there was a backstory. It appears HF didn't know, either. I suppose we've had worse stuff posted in this thread. The backstory would be more interesting, though.
rockaction
Footballguy
Somebody trolled with what seemed like a law exam guised in the form of an innocent question. Perhaps I was being sensitive. Perhaps not.Ah, didn't know there was a backstory. It appears HF didn't know, either. I suppose we've had worse stuff posted in this thread. The backstory would be more interesting, though.
This is the thread. http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=716582
rockaction
Footballguy
Wait, what? You're more than welcome to point me to that. I don't think I've ever said anything bad about the South unless it's ironic. I've always wanted to visit NO, and loved Charleston and Savannah. I don't think that makes any sense. You've got me confused, Henry, unless I was ill-tempered. It's possible, but I doubt it.I assumed he was upset about the thread where northerners were arguing that southerners are uneducated hicks. I spent quite some time trying to teach him basic grammar in that thread. It wasn't in the Shark Pool, though, so unless he's wrong again, he's not referring to that.Ah, didn't know there was a backstory. It appears HF didn't know, either. I suppose we've had worse stuff posted in this thread. The backstory would be more interesting, though.
*eta Crap, I like the Saints, and try to watch them whenever I can. I'm no Northern snob. My first college girlfriend (and almost-wife) was from Tennessee
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T Bell
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And from this you've concluded that Henry Ford was Hoolio or whateverthehell the OP's name was?Somebody trolled with what seemed like a law exam guised in the form of an innocent question. Perhaps I was being sensitive. Perhaps not.Ah, didn't know there was a backstory. It appears HF didn't know, either. I suppose we've had worse stuff posted in this thread. The backstory would be more interesting, though.
This is the thread. http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=716582
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Well, then, la-dee-dah. Sounds like I'm wrong this time. Sorry. Who was that?Wait, what? You're more than welcome to point me to that. I don't think I've ever said anything bad about the South unless it's ironic. I've always wanted to visit NO, and loved Charleston and Savannah. I don't think that makes any sense. You've got me confused, Henry, unless I was ill-tempered. It's possible, but I doubt it.I assumed he was upset about the thread where northerners were arguing that southerners are uneducated hicks. I spent quite some time trying to teach him basic grammar in that thread. It wasn't in the Shark Pool, though, so unless he's wrong again, he's not referring to that.Ah, didn't know there was a backstory. It appears HF didn't know, either. I suppose we've had worse stuff posted in this thread. The backstory would be more interesting, though.
*eta Crap, I like the Saints, and try to watch them whenever I can. I'm no Northern snob. My first college girlfriend (and almost-wife) was from Tennessee
Oh, and the thread you linked to - I have no idea who that is, and I haven't posted in it. So... what's your problem with me again?
rockaction
Footballguy
Dear God, no. I've been seeing a lot of stylistic tics in some people's writing, that's all. Not HF's. Guess I wandered into the wrong thread.And from this you've concluded that Henry Ford was Hoolio or whateverthehell the OP's name was?Somebody trolled with what seemed like a law exam guised in the form of an innocent question. Perhaps I was being sensitive. Perhaps not.Ah, didn't know there was a backstory. It appears HF didn't know, either. I suppose we've had worse stuff posted in this thread. The backstory would be more interesting, though.
This is the thread. http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=716582
Henry Ford
Footballguy
I'm going to be out of the country for about a week. Would someone please get this all worked out before I get back?
rockaction
Footballguy
Nothing, Henry. Really. Just hyped on a little bit of a stylistic thing, and thought a resident lawyer had to write what was in that thread.Well, then, la-dee-dah. Sounds like I'm wrong this time. Sorry. Who was that?Wait, what? You're more than welcome to point me to that. I don't think I've ever said anything bad about the South unless it's ironic. I've always wanted to visit NO, and loved Charleston and Savannah. I don't think that makes any sense. You've got me confused, Henry, unless I was ill-tempered. It's possible, but I doubt it.I assumed he was upset about the thread where northerners were arguing that southerners are uneducated hicks. I spent quite some time trying to teach him basic grammar in that thread. It wasn't in the Shark Pool, though, so unless he's wrong again, he's not referring to that.Ah, didn't know there was a backstory. It appears HF didn't know, either. I suppose we've had worse stuff posted in this thread. The backstory would be more interesting, though.
*eta Crap, I like the Saints, and try to watch them whenever I can. I'm no Northern snob. My first college girlfriend (and almost-wife) was from Tennessee
Oh, and the thread you linked to - I have no idea who that is, and I haven't posted in it. So... what's your problem with me again?
But I've been trolled enough. krista4, yes you should. Be a great antidote to my quibble. Peace, guys. Thanks for your time.
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Henry Ford
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I drove two hours today to go to a hearing that got continued as soon as I showed up because the judge hadn't had time to read anything.
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Instinctive
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Is 1600 hours a lot of billables? For a year? (Skadden's requirement, according to partner I had lunch with today). He seems to think it is very low compared to other firms.
How much actual work translates to that?
How much actual work translates to that?
fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
Skadden is not generally regarded as a "lifestyle" firm, to the extent that even exists.
T Bell
Footballguy
Basically, yes. He did his job, and this is on the court, so you chalk it up to the cost of doing business.
If you're dealing with a smaller client, maybe you cut them a break on the fees as a courtesy but you don't "owe" it to them to do so.
T Bell
Footballguy
No, it's not. That said, that number can mean some different things. For example, Skadden may be a "white glove" firm that wants associates to do pro bono work, so that number might be their billing to actual paying clients, while they expect a certain number of additional hours for the pro bono, work on committees (big firms love committees), client development, etc.
The benchmark in my experience for billables at insurance defense firms is typically around 1800-1900 hours, which typically works out to around 8 hours per work day, once you've accounted for holidays and vacations. Some firms demand more, or simply indicate you don't qualify for a bonus unless you hit the benchmark first.
If you're an absolute grinder as a biller in a high volume insurance defense firm, however, hitting 2400+ (200+/month) is pretty easily done; this works out to 9+ hours per day. The true maniacs can hit 3000. I can bill at that level for a month or two, especially if I'm in trial, but it really wears me out and I usually hit a slump right after that.
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Henry Ford
Footballguy
I'm working on contingency.
krista4
Footballguy
Extremely low, and as a former Skadden attorney, I'm surprised to hear it. We didn't have a minimum when I was there eons ago, but corporate associates averaged 2400ish at that time.
T Bell
Footballguy
There are some firms that have part time positions - maybe this is the explanation here?
T Bell
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Henry Ford
Footballguy
Requirements and expectations are very different.
krista4
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