Dynasty & Redraft: WR Allen Robinson, Bears

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28 minutes ago, rockaction said:

Watch the weather in Chicago. Supposed to be extraordinarily windy in the Windy City.

uggh

[dmac37 411]

39 minutes ago, rockaction said:

Watch the weather in Chicago. Supposed to be extraordinarily windy in the Windy City.

I think he will still be safe in PPR, I can see him getting peppered with short passes if the winds are crazy high.

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21 minutes ago, dmac37 said:

I think he will still be safe in PPR, I can see him getting peppered with short passes if the winds are crazy high.

NO secondary is very beatable. Now, he just has to beat the wind and his putrid QB play.

[themeistersinger 315]

1 hour ago, chad in Indy said:

Nice thing about concussion protocol is once cleared, it's full go. Not like other injuries for risk of a snap count, etc... 

Any nervousness since he was Doubtful just yesterday afternoon and DNP all week?  I've never seen a player go from Doubtful on Friday night to off the injury report on Saturday before.  Questionable to Active, yes, but not Doubtful.

[chad in Indy 223]

1 minute ago, themeistersinger said:

Any nervousness since he was Doubtful just yesterday afternoon and DNP all week?  I've never seen a player go from Doubtful on Friday night to off the injury report on Saturday before.  Questionable to Active, yes, but not Doubtful.

Again, it's concurs protocol. Not a normal injury.  Think of it like a light switch. It's either on or off. There is no middle ground. 

[FGITLOTR 343]

1 minute ago, themeistersinger said:

Any nervousness since he was Doubtful just yesterday afternoon and DNP all week?  I've never seen a player go from Doubtful on Friday night to off the injury report on Saturday before.  Questionable to Active, yes, but not Doubtful.

Remember, it was a minor concussion and there are no limitations once you leave the concussion protocol. 

[themeistersinger 315]

12 minutes ago, FGITLOTR said:

NO secondary is very beatable. Now, he just has to beat the wind and his putrid QB play.

Yeah, that's the other concern - Foles ain't exactly known for his cannon arm.

[FGITLOTR 343]

BTW, is Arob an UFA at the end of the year? If yes, the Bears get no compensation if he chooses to sign elsewhere?

Edited October 31, 2020 by FGITLOTR

[Soulfly3 4,444]

1 hour ago, rockaction said:

Watch the weather in Chicago. Supposed to be extraordinarily windy in the Windy City.

so all those misplaced passes have a chance of hitting him now?

Edited October 31, 2020 by Soulfly3

[Long Ball Larry 14,304]

Think I’m sitting him for aj green

[Hoh 225]

Put him in over JuJu

[candian fantasy guy 155]

I'm hoping to see him get involved early and often. It's always such a head scratcher when they go long stretches without getting this the ball. At least try!! Go Bears!

[Helaire-ious 124]

38 minutes ago, Long Ball Larry said:

Think I’m sitting him for aj green

#balls

I am starting him. You can't sit him unless you have a top 10 option to use instead

[Faust 5,670]

Week 10 Dynasty Risers and Fallers: Brandin Cooks remains undervalued

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FALLER: WR ALLEN ROBINSON II, CHICAGO BEARS

Robinson has now posted his three worst games of the season by targets in consecutive weeks. This is despite Nick Foles attempting 40, 41 and 52 pass attempts in those three games. The reason Robinson didn’t see double-digit targets in any of those contests is the continued ascension of Anthony Miller and Darnell Mooney. 

Miller looked to be playing a backup role earlier in the year but has now come back to life with 24 targets over his past three games. Mooney has just as many targets in the same group of games. The growth in volume for both young receivers has to come at the expense of a teammate:

• Robinson Weeks 1-6: 35% air-yard share, 29% target share
• Robinson Weeks 7-9: 23% air-yard share, 16% target share

The sky is not falling on Robinson, and he should still be projected to be the leading receiver in Chicago by a wide margin. However, the data from his 2019 season may be overinflating his current perception as one of the most heavily targeted wideouts in the league. His competition for volume has increased, and he remains a piece of the Chicago Bears' offense.

 

[chad in Indy 223]

4 hours ago, Faust said:

Week 10 Dynasty Risers and Fallers: Brandin Cooks remains undervalued

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Hoping for a change with Nagey FINALLY letting go of offensive play calling. Don't mind the occasional shot to Mooney but think they are failing on not throwing more intermediate routes w Robinson 

[Goooals 16]

Do we know what side of questionable Robinson is on with the bye week looming in Week 11? They could easily rest him for a 2-week break to try and finish the season strong if he is truly banged up.

If this is Hopkins, then it's never a question. I'm not so sure with AR and with the game on Monday night, that throws a wrench into the equation.  

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37 minutes ago, Goooals said:

Do we know what side of questionable Robinson is on with the bye week looming in Week 11? They could easily rest him for a 2-week break to try and finish the season strong if he is truly banged up.

If this is Hopkins, then it's never a question. I'm not so sure with AR and with the game on Monday night, that throws a wrench into the equation.  

Yeah. I'm wondering the same thing.  The extra week off with the Bye is a good reason to keep him out this week, but the Bears are in the playoff hunt, and this is a divisional game.  So I think if he can play then he will.  But will he be effective?  Or maybe just a decoy?  He did at least get Limited Practice all week, so didn't get worse as the week went on, but didn't improve either.

[Faust 5,670]

Allen Robinson (knee) is questionable for Week 10 against the Vikings.

Robinson was limited in practice throughout the week but is still expected to play. The 27-year-old has frustratingly failed to score or eclipse the century mark since Week 4, but that can be directly attributed to Nick Foles' poor play under center. Assuming he's active, Robinson remains a talent-based WR2 for Monday night.

SOURCE: Adam Caplan on Twitter

Nov 14, 2020, 2:31 PM ET

[Goooals 16]

Any Sunday morning update before we either take a chance with him or play a replacement?

I just an update on Fantasy Football Now where Stephania said he wants to gut it out but it's up to the medical staff. Every injury is up to the medical staff so that information really does help us at all. 

Edited November 15, 2020 by Goooals

[fruity pebbles 3,300]

No. Sounds like most think he’s going to go though. 

[Goooals 16]

1 minute ago, fruity pebbles said:

No. Sounds like most think he’s going to go though. 

I can hold out until the late games today and insert Parker if needed. May see just see how I do in the morning to make the call. 

[Adso 29]

19 hours ago, Goooals said:

 I'm not so sure with AR and with the game on Monday night, that throws a wrench into the equation.  

If you’re playing ARob in a FLEX slot you could pick up Lamar Miller off the waiver wire as insurance. Decent matchup vs MIN. 

[soxjj 3]

Or pick up Mooney as a backup option if Arob doesn't play Monday night.

[rockaction 26,515]

5 minutes ago, soxjj said:

Or pick up Mooney as a backup option if Arob doesn't play Monday night.

This is exactly what I did. 

[Long Ball Larry 14,304]

47 minutes ago, soxjj said:

Or pick up Mooney as a backup option if Arob doesn't play Monday night.

This is what I did

[Long Ball Larry 14,304]

42 minutes ago, rockaction said:

This is exactly what I did. 

[rick6668 1,254]

7 hours ago, soxjj said:

Or pick up Mooney as a backup option if Arob doesn't play Monday night.

Would have to drop someone quite good to do this.  I could start Marquise Brown tonight.  Wish I had better options/news.  I have a good lead.  Decisions decisions.

[FGITLOTR 343]

17 hours ago, Goooals said:

Any Sunday morning update before we either take a chance with him or play a replacement?

I just an update on Fantasy Football Now where Stephania said he wants to gut it out but it's up to the medical staff. Every injury is up to the medical staff so that information really does help us at all. 

Reasons he will play and ball out:

1) He’s up for a new contract

2) the Bears season is fading and this is a must win game 

3) nationally televised contest 

[Faust 5,670]

Bears' Allen Robinson: Trending in right direction for MNF

[whole-show 291]

Officially active for tonight 

[Faust 5,670]

15 minutes ago, whole-show said:

Officially active for tonight 

Rotoworld take:

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Allen Robinson (knee) is active for Week 10 against the Vikings.

Robinson was dealing with a knee issue but logged limited practices throughout the week. Robinson's floor of targets in the league's most pass-heavy offense makes him a locked-in WR2 with WR1 upside. The only thing limiting him from being an elite receiver has been the poor play from Nick Foles. 

Nov 16, 2020, 6:44 PM ET

 

 

[Faust 5,670]

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Allen Robinson caught 6-of-9 targets for 43 yards in the Bears' Week 10 loss to the Vikings.

The Bears offense couldn't get anything going so Robinson never stood a chance to post a solid fantasy outing. Nick Foles ended the day with 106 yards passing an interception. The Bears also ran for less than three yards per carry. Robinson still led Chicago in targets and should be projected as the clear No. 1 receiver for the Bears going forward. In games where Chicago can move the football, Robinson should still be viewed as a WR1.

Nov 16, 2020, 10:58 PM ET

 

 

[scothawk 121]

Multple ARob owner who is relieved to also be a multiple Pittman owner. Making that switch for the next few weeks.....

[Hoh 225]

I hope he’s on a new team next year.

[scothawk 121]

15 hours ago, Hoh said:

I hope he’s on a new team next year.

A team not called Jets

[rockaction 26,515]

Just now, scothawk said:

A team not called Jets

If the Jets are building around speed, he's not their guy. Right now, when they trot out Perriman and Mims, they're trotting out two sub-4.4 guys, which is no small thing if they're competent receivers. So they may be the ones to overpay him, but if they do, they'll be seriously disappointed with his separation.

[scothawk 121]

3 hours ago, rockaction said:

If the Jets are building around speed, he's not their guy. Right now, when they trot out Perriman and Mims, they're trotting out two sub-4.4 guys, which is no small thing if they're competent receivers. So they may be the ones to overpay him, but if they do, they'll be seriously disappointed with his separation.

I think Darnold needs dependability more than speed. Arob 1 and mims2 could work well for them. Better than for fantasy owners for sure.

[Sir Psycho 51]

Why would he leave the Bears to go to the Jets ??

[Hoh 225]

56 minutes ago, Sir Psycho said:

Why would he leave the Bears to go to the Jets ??

I don’t think anyone is suggesting it per se.  I think most of us dynasty owners are just hoping he leaves Chicago for somewhere with above average QB play because we believe ARob would be a monster.   Some of us are suggesting that with our luck he would leave Chicago....for the Jets.  Which would be worse. And that’s seems to be how our luck, and Arob’s, goes.

Edited November 18, 2020 by Hoh

[FGITLOTR 343]

1 hour ago, Sir Psycho said:

Why would he leave the Bears to go to the Jets ??

 

 

5 minutes ago, Hoh said:

I don’t think anyone is suggesting it per se.  I think most of us dynasty owners are just hoping he leaves Chicago for somewhere with above average QB play because we believe ARob would be a monster.   Some of us are suggesting that with our luck he would leave Chicago....for the Jets.  Which would be worse. And that’s seems to be how our luck, and Arob’s, goes.

We all hope he doesn't leave Chicago for the Jets, BUT is it really worse? Even if the QB was Darnold, or Lawrence, that's a massive upgrade over Foles/Trubisky. 

Edited November 18, 2020 by FGITLOTR

[Hoh 225]

2 minutes ago, FGITLOTR said:

 

 

We all hope he doesn't leave Chicago for the Jets, BUT is it really worse? Even if the QB was Darnold, or Lawrence, that's a massive upgrade over Foles/Trubisky. 

Maybe not worse for us fantasy owners but worse for ARob.  The Jets are further behind than the Bears in terms of building a consistent winner.  Just my opinion of course.

I keep thinking that Sammy Watkins is on a one year deal (I think..if not this is total tripe, then), and KC can’t be overly thrilled with what he’s done, can they?  Surely ARob would be considered an upgrade.  How much would they be willing to offer, and would ARob settle for less if it meant going to a powerhouse?   Fun things to speculate, if nothing else.  Granted Kelce is more WR than TE, so who knows.

[menobrown 4,250]

1 hour ago, Sir Psycho said:

Why would he leave the Bears to go to the Jets ??

1. Money

2. Based on tweet his agent sent during the game it feels safe to say the relationship has turned acrimonious, but that's probably more about money as well.

[FGITLOTR 343]

2 minutes ago, Hoh said:

Maybe not worse for us fantasy owners but worse for ARob.  The Jets are further behind than the Bears in terms of building a consistent winner.  Just my opinion of course.

I keep thinking that Sammy Watkins is on a one year deal (I think..if not this is total tripe, then), and KC can’t be overly thrilled with what he’s done, can they?  Surely ARob would be considered an upgrade.  How much would they be willing to offer, and would ARob settle for less if it meant going to a powerhouse?   Fun things to speculate, if nothing else.  Granted Kelce is more WR than TE, so who knows.

If I'm not mistaken, the cap will be lower next year and it's not an ideal time to hit the open market. Also, any chance the Bears tag him?

[scothawk 121]

If the Jets decide to trade the #1 draft pick for a ransom the off season is going to be interesting. They could get some vets and the picks give them IDP as needed

[Biabreakable 5,180]

Allen Robinson's agent didn't hold back during Bears' brutal loss vs. Vikings

I disagree with Robinsons agents comments about the offensive line not being good enough for Foles to do anything. Foles had time. Not saying the Bears line was great but I don't think the blame rests solely on that unit. Foles had some open receivers, a better throw to Miller for example and maybe the Bears score and win this game. Maybe Miller drops it anyways but it could have been a better throw.

I think Zimmer used scheme to take Robinson out of the game as he was not often single covered. I saw Smith and Harris manning up on him and using trail technique on him while the corners played zone.

The agents comments about them not using Robinson in the red zone seems like a valid complaint although I very much doubt it is a conspiracy to keep Robinson and his agent from getting paid.

Edited November 18, 2020 by Biabreakable

[Faust 5,670]

 

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Allen Robinson caught 8-of-13 targets for 74 yards and two touchdowns in Week 12 against the Packers.

Robinson scored on a play-action pass at the end of the first half. He added another TD with Chicago airing it out in the fourth quarter. It’s the first multi-TD game for Robinson, who hadn’t scored since Week 8. Regardless of who starts in Week 13, Robinson will be a volume-based WR3.

Nov 29, 2020, 11:52 PM ET

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[Faust 5,670]

 

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Chris Emma @CEmma670

Allen Robinson left the Bears' practice today with a knee issue. Matt Nagy said it was more of a precautionary matter and doesn't believe it's something serious. 

Robinson is officially listed as questionable for Sunday's game.

https://twitter.com/cemma670/status/1334942856180535299?s=21

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(RotoWire) Bears head coach Matt Nagy said that Robinson was listed as questionable for Sunday's game against the Lions after injuring his knee in Friday's practice, Colleen Kane of the Chicago Tribune reports.

Analysis: Robinson's late-week addition to the injury report is unwelcome news, but the star receiver isn't believed to be dealing with anything overly significant. That said, while Nagy said he didn't think the injury was anything that would keep Robinson sidelined for Sunday's game, he was unwilling to say for certain that the 27-year-old would suit up Week 13. Robinson could be put through a pregame workout early Sunday before the Bears decide on his status shortly before the 1 p.m. ET kickoff.

Gah.

[tricky92 496]

Ugh. I really hate fantasy football.

[FGITLOTR 343]

1 hour ago, tricky92 said:

Ugh. I really hate fantasy football.

It sounds precautionary, but it’s prob the same knee that has been bothering him. Weird for it to happen on a Friday