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WR Allen Robinson, Free Agent (5 Viewers)
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Ketamine Dreams
Footballguy
Dynasty arrow = UP
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Outside of Watkins and Benjamin, he may be the next most impressive rookie.
Rhythmdoctor
Footballguy
As a Robinson dynasty owner, it pleases me that not only is he doing well but he's gaining chemistry and experience with the franchise QB. I think that's an important factor in long-term success and one that's overlooked. Now just gotta hope Bortles is a top 15 QB throughout the majority of his career.
Mr. Brownstone
Footballguy
He's got a bright future. Really athletic guy.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
My most pleasant surprise WR off waivers this year has been A. Robinson. Very quietly averaging over 12 points per week in PPR and over 8 targets a week. A plug and play WR#2 in my scoring system.
zamboni
Footballguy
Good to see him separate himself from the other rookies Lee and Hurd.
Those other guys have some talent, too, so I do have some that Bortles starts spreading it around more as he gets more confidence in himself.
zamboni
Footballguy
From the blogger:
Jaguars | Allen Robinson on top of depth chart Fri Oct 24, 02:35 PM
Jacksonville Jaguars WR Allen Robinson has risen to the top of the team's depth chart, and he's played 90 percent of the offensive snaps in the last three weeks. Robinson is well ahead of WR Marqise Lee on the wide receiver pecking order.
Jaguars | Allen Robinson on top of depth chart Fri Oct 24, 02:35 PMJacksonville Jaguars WR Allen Robinson has risen to the top of the team's depth chart, and he's played 90 percent of the offensive snaps in the last three weeks. Robinson is well ahead of WR Marqise Lee on the wide receiver pecking order.
saintfool
Dead sexy
He hasn't done much of anything since Robinson got into the rotation. Over those same 3 weeks, Hurns has chipped in 7-51-0 on 17 targets.
zamboni
Footballguy
True, Hurd has become an afterthought but doesn't mean it's dead in the water either. Rookie QB and three rookie WRs plus Shorts - Robinson has taken hold but doesn't mean he'll always be the go-to guy.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Dynasty, I'm stubbornly holding onto Hurns, but in redraft I dropped him weeks ago. If I owned Lee in dynasty I'd hold him too. There's a lot of value in the Jags receiving corp and that bodes very well for Mr. Bortles. But the only rosterable redraft WR's on the Jags are Shorts and Robinson.
MCguidance
Footballguy
Another strong week. Nice WR3 at this point.
slackjawedyokel
Footballguy
AR continues to stand out as a focal point in the passing game... Owners have to wonder if Bortles has what it takes to become the QB needed to actually lead that passing game though.
jurb26
Footballguy
It's uncanny how well he does in garbage time. I would really like to see him produce earlier in the games. Then again it's all pretty much garbage time in Jax right now.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
He's doing really well for a rookie WR.
Fluff piece done before the Miami game where he had another solid performance.
Exciting part is he left school early, was limited in preseason, only had two practices before his hammy flared up, and he's only turned 21 two months ago so as good as he's playing now he still has loads of upside especially when you consider his body is still filing out and that Blake Bortles is a rookie and that he should improve along with Allen Robinson.
Congrats to anyone who picked him up cheap especially in dynasty formats.
http://members.jacksonville.com/sports/football/jaguars/2014-10-25/story/jaguars-rookie-allen-robinson-leaving-penn-state-early
Fluff piece done before the Miami game where he had another solid performance.
Exciting part is he left school early, was limited in preseason, only had two practices before his hammy flared up, and he's only turned 21 two months ago so as good as he's playing now he still has loads of upside especially when you consider his body is still filing out and that Blake Bortles is a rookie and that he should improve along with Allen Robinson.
Congrats to anyone who picked him up cheap especially in dynasty formats.
http://members.jacksonville.com/sports/football/jaguars/2014-10-25/story/jaguars-rookie-allen-robinson-leaving-penn-state-early
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Tempering this a bit...
1. He's doing well for a rookie WR - for where he was drafted IRL and in FF, yes, but it's not like he's comparable to Watkins or Benjamin. What is really surprising is his consistency week in and week out. People are sitting up because he's scored the last few weeks, but he blew by Lee and Hurns in snap counts and targets weeks before that.
2. Week 8 - if you didn't catch the game or the NFLN Rewind, the 48 yard TD that made the week was a complete assignment breakdown by the defense. Still, it's also a byproduct of talent meets opportunity. A JAX WR getting garbage time points? SOP the last three years.
3. On the other hand, don't make the mistake of discounting what he is based on his lack of size or freakish athletic ability or draft position. I have been saying this since before the draft (up thread as well): this kid has a work ethic, determination to excel, and a serious (healthy) chip on his shoulder to make everybody who passed on him sorry they didn't nab him when they had their chance.
Crisp routes, good hands, the trust of his QB and the staff - he's the real deal. Not saying he's got a super high ceiling, but I could see him becoming a highly productive WR2 for many years. He's already a solid PPR WR3 [right now] - you're not going to get burned with a 2-25-0 week if he's healthy.
1. He's doing well for a rookie WR - for where he was drafted IRL and in FF, yes, but it's not like he's comparable to Watkins or Benjamin. What is really surprising is his consistency week in and week out. People are sitting up because he's scored the last few weeks, but he blew by Lee and Hurns in snap counts and targets weeks before that.
2. Week 8 - if you didn't catch the game or the NFLN Rewind, the 48 yard TD that made the week was a complete assignment breakdown by the defense. Still, it's also a byproduct of talent meets opportunity. A JAX WR getting garbage time points? SOP the last three years.
3. On the other hand, don't make the mistake of discounting what he is based on his lack of size or freakish athletic ability or draft position. I have been saying this since before the draft (up thread as well): this kid has a work ethic, determination to excel, and a serious (healthy) chip on his shoulder to make everybody who passed on him sorry they didn't nab him when they had their chance.
Crisp routes, good hands, the trust of his QB and the staff - he's the real deal. Not saying he's got a super high ceiling, but I could see him becoming a highly productive WR2 for many years. He's already a solid PPR WR3 [right now] - you're not going to get burned with a 2-25-0 week if he's healthy.
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Ketamine Dreams
Footballguy
Through 8 games Robinson: 39/453/2
Benjamin: 38/571/5
Watkins: 38/590/5
And Robinson missed a lot of camp and preseason, barely played in week one, has had Chad Henne and a rookie QB. (Granted Watkins had Manuel...)
Benjamin: 38/571/5
Watkins: 38/590/5
And Robinson missed a lot of camp and preseason, barely played in week one, has had Chad Henne and a rookie QB. (Granted Watkins had Manuel...)
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
2014 draft looks like a vintage year for WRs. I can't complain about getting Benjamin, Adams, and Moncrief with my first 3 rookie picks, but I wish I had an extra pick so I coulda had Robinson. I know, I know... I'm a hoarder. 
zamboni
Footballguy
Also, Benjamin and Watkins were brought in to be the clear cut go-to guys. Robinson had to get healthy and overtake several other promising receivers, including the veteran Shorts (who seems to be 1A/1B now with Robinson).
Sabertooth
Footballguy
thecardiackid
Footballguy
should be some solid garbage time this week @ CIN. plucked him off waivers and starting over a disappointing VJAX this week, just b/c he's seeing around 10 targets a game.
w/ gio out this week, and aj still hobbled w/ the toe, it might work.
anyone else rolling w/ him in week 9?
w/ gio out this week, and aj still hobbled w/ the toe, it might work.
anyone else rolling w/ him in week 9?
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
It's either him, J Jones, or M Floyd. Robinson has averaged 9 targets a week over the past 6 werks and he has by far the best matchup. I'm starting hom.
We Tigers
Footballguy
Bengals are a very tough matchup for WRs, but it's hard to look at his 10 targets/week and back off. As always, I think he's a solid floor play, but TD opportunities are going to be scarce. The Bengals have only allowed 8 TD passes all year, which is pretty impressive. I'm personally coin flipping between him and LaFell in my third WR slot.
tombonneau
Footballguy
With three WRs on bye Robinson gets the nod. Not confident vs. Bengals I'm just hoping for a 6/70 game.thecardiackid said:
just_want_2_win
Footballguy
Probably bulk will come in garbage time unless Jags D plays well and Cinci O sputters, keeping game close.
just_want_2_win
Footballguy
1 catch for 10 yards through 3 QTRs. One quarter left to notch 5 for 60. Probably not going to happen.
thecardiackid
Footballguy
yea... this was unfortunately EPIC FAIL - even w/ 8 targets.
glad those 5 points on the bench didn't cost me the game.
just_want_2_win
Footballguy
Does this guy resume a leading role in the passing game (and thus making last week a fluke) or is his poor game and Hurns's involvement a bad sign that ARob's usefulness is coming to an end? There's also the issue of a so-so matchup with Dallas and then the bye.
Wise Old Owl
Footballguy
So Benjamin and Watkins have to deal with the top corner and safety help and that's a slight against them? I like Robinson and have him in several leagues, but lets not pretend that he had done more to help his team than Watkins, Benjamin or even Beckham or Evans
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Week 9 targets: Hurns 9, Robinson 8. ARob led all JAX WR in snaps for the fourth straight week.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Week 9 targets: Hurns 9, Robinson 8. ARob led all JAX WR in snaps for the fourth straight week.
zamboni
Footballguy
Not sure how you determined that I was knocking Watkins and Benjamin. Actually was praising Robinson since his hurdles to be the go-to receiver were steeper coming in.
just_want_2_win
Footballguy
Thanks. Useful stuff.BobbyLayne said:
saintfool
Dead sexy
i think last week was the first time that hurns out-produced Robinson since he was named a starter. hurns had a nice few couple of weeks but had been pretty quiet since.
MCguidance
Footballguy
13 pts in PPR, not terrible.
cstu
Footballguy
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
az_prof
Footballguy
What is that world class treatment protocol? Stay off it? Check. Let it heal naturally? Check. Unless he gets surgery, which would be an even worse sign, there is no world class treatment that I have ever heard of.
http://orthoinfo.aaos.org/topic.cfm?topic=a00379
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