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Packers better hope Montgomery can come back soon.
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WR Davante Adams, LV (1 Viewer)
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Papa John's
Footballguy
He just missed a second TD. If Rogers would have put more air on the ball he'd have gotten the 2nd TD (luckily Rogers ran it in on the next play).Chaka said:
He has to adjust to Rogers LOVING the back shoulder play ... and ... Rogers has to adjust to Adams being a great fade end zone player. If they can figure these two things out and consistently mix'm up, but be on the same page, then they'll be lethal in the end zone.
Yeah, I saw that. Adams had his guy beat and Rodgers underthrew him. Adams also had the best shot at the hail mary had R.Rodgers not grabbed it.
ROYALWITCHEESE
Footballguy
Benched.
Papa John's
Footballguy
Hot garbage.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
buy low
Kitrick Taylor
Footballguy
Totally agree. There's been a myriad of reasons for Adams not having a good season.
I'm not saying he's played well. He hasn't. I think his biggest issue has been winning in contested situations. He's lost the confidence of Rodgers because of it.
Adams said it himself a few weeks ago. In practice, Rodgers can't be touched. The ball will be placed much better, so he doesn't have to fight the DB for it nearly as much/often as live game situations. I'm sure that's why he looked great in training camp and in the OTAs.
He needs to watch a lot of Allen Robinson tape. Their game is somewhat similar. Robinson is such a beast at the catch point. Adams is the opposite right now.
Look at their combine numbers:
Robinson: 6'2.5" 220 4.60 39" vertical
Adams: 6'1" 212 4.56 39.5" vertical
Part of the problem has been a lack of cohesion with Rodgers as well. Rodgers is great at the back shoulder throw. He and Jordy perfected it. That's not Adams game, and they are trying to put a square peg in a round hole. Adams has the vertical to jump over the DB, and he creates separation there. Rodgers needs to get better at throwing that ball.
dirtyjay
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rjv
Footballguy
bingo!
rjv
Footballguy
You made sense till you wrote that Rodgers needs to get better throwing the ball.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Bum.
ROYALWITCHEESE
Footballguy
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Yep. A completely blown pick.
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The Claymaker
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Clearly Adams had a terrible year, and he had many little dings along the way. But a 23 year old second rounder that just finished his second season is in absolutely no danger of being cut by the Packers. It will take more than one bad season for that to happen. He has had zero off the field issues, have not heard anything about lack of effort or practicing issues, he is very young and not every player has that switch click by year two.
Kitrick Taylor
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I'm inclined to agree with Claymaker here. Adams had a disappointing year no doubt.
His year kind of breaks down like this:
He was fine week 1. 4/59 on 8 targets.
Week 2 he sprained his ankle missed a large chunk of the game.
Week 3 he tried to give it a go, and re-aggravated it. Rumor was he had a high ankle sprain. He denied it.
He returned week 8 vs Denver. It was at this moment that the entire offense went into the tank. Adams got two targets here, catching one for 8 yards.
Week 9 vs Carolina 7/93 on 11 targets.
Week 10 was pivotal. It was the Detroit game where he got 21 targets. He was terribly inefficient catching 10 of them for 79 yards. It should be noted, that Rodgers was terribly inaccurate on this day too. Nonetheless I think there is an important takeaway here. That is that he had shown the team enough through practices etc that he was worthy of 21 targets, and that they really did believe in Adams up to this point. Regardless of Rodgers' inaccuracy on the day, Adams didn't deliver.
Week 12 didn't help. It was a national TV game on Thanksgiving. The conditions were awful. Some of my friends attended this game, and said it was by far the worst weather game they had ever been to. It was cold, windy and raining sideways throughout the game. Adams had a huge drop on a likely long TD pass, and was terribly inefficient again. I think the weather played a large role here, but still the takeaway is that Adams had another poor game.
Weeks 13-15 his role in the offense was clearly diminished. He was still getting some targets, but they were largely short area passes. IMO his confidence was shaken.
Weeks 16-18 he started to gain a little bit of confidence again, and started making a few plays. This was culminated by back to back plays vs Washington where he made a nice contested catch along the sideline and then broke open for an easy TD.
I really think Adams just lost a lot of his confidence in that week 10-12 area, and it took him a while to get out of it. There's no way to know if or how much the ankle sprain played a role in his year. Nonetheless, there seems to be a growing narrative that Adams was awful all year. That's just not the case. He got hurt week 2, and it really derailed the first half of the season for him. That week 10-12 stretch he was brutal, and then they just didn't target him on throws that other than quick outs, quick screens etc.
I'm sure it was a humbling year for Adams. He was touted as the most improved Packer coming into the year by Rodgers and McCarthy. I don't think they just made that up. I'm sure he looked great in their offseason workouts. When it came time to make plays in games though, he wasn't winning in contested situations. Basically, when things were less than ideal, Adams didn't deliver with any regularity. Will be interesting to see if he can make that leap in 2016.
His year kind of breaks down like this:
He was fine week 1. 4/59 on 8 targets.
Week 2 he sprained his ankle missed a large chunk of the game.
Week 3 he tried to give it a go, and re-aggravated it. Rumor was he had a high ankle sprain. He denied it.
He returned week 8 vs Denver. It was at this moment that the entire offense went into the tank. Adams got two targets here, catching one for 8 yards.
Week 9 vs Carolina 7/93 on 11 targets.
Week 10 was pivotal. It was the Detroit game where he got 21 targets. He was terribly inefficient catching 10 of them for 79 yards. It should be noted, that Rodgers was terribly inaccurate on this day too. Nonetheless I think there is an important takeaway here. That is that he had shown the team enough through practices etc that he was worthy of 21 targets, and that they really did believe in Adams up to this point. Regardless of Rodgers' inaccuracy on the day, Adams didn't deliver.
Week 12 didn't help. It was a national TV game on Thanksgiving. The conditions were awful. Some of my friends attended this game, and said it was by far the worst weather game they had ever been to. It was cold, windy and raining sideways throughout the game. Adams had a huge drop on a likely long TD pass, and was terribly inefficient again. I think the weather played a large role here, but still the takeaway is that Adams had another poor game.
Weeks 13-15 his role in the offense was clearly diminished. He was still getting some targets, but they were largely short area passes. IMO his confidence was shaken.
Weeks 16-18 he started to gain a little bit of confidence again, and started making a few plays. This was culminated by back to back plays vs Washington where he made a nice contested catch along the sideline and then broke open for an easy TD.
I really think Adams just lost a lot of his confidence in that week 10-12 area, and it took him a while to get out of it. There's no way to know if or how much the ankle sprain played a role in his year. Nonetheless, there seems to be a growing narrative that Adams was awful all year. That's just not the case. He got hurt week 2, and it really derailed the first half of the season for him. That week 10-12 stretch he was brutal, and then they just didn't target him on throws that other than quick outs, quick screens etc.
I'm sure it was a humbling year for Adams. He was touted as the most improved Packer coming into the year by Rodgers and McCarthy. I don't think they just made that up. I'm sure he looked great in their offseason workouts. When it came time to make plays in games though, he wasn't winning in contested situations. Basically, when things were less than ideal, Adams didn't deliver with any regularity. Will be interesting to see if he can make that leap in 2016.
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Brooklyn70
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Agree x3
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Make or break season for him. His draft status will keep the shine on him for another half dozen games or so. If he produces, he will get more, if not he's going to the end of the bench.
voiceofunreason
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You can have him. He's been one of the worst wrs in football two years in a row with one of the best qbs.
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Sabertooth
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I think he's Wr4 on the Pack next season at best if everyone is healthy. Montgomery looked better, Jordy will be back, and Janis and Abby kind of look like they can play.
Brooklyn70
Footballguy
Young wr with nagging injuries. Additionally, next year is the magical third year. I'm willing to give him a pass this year. If he doesn't produce next year then I will cut bait.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Magical third year for Janis and Abbrederis too.
Faust
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Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel doesn't consider Davante Adams' roster spot a "sure thing" for 2016.
In breaking down the Pack's crowded receiver corps, reporter Tom Silverstein labels Jordy Nelson and Randall Cobb as the only "sure things." We would add Jeff Janis to that list, as well. It would ultimately be surprising if Adams couldn't crack the 53-man roster, but he was one of the worst regularly-featured wideouts in the league last season, averaging a stunningly-bad 9.7 yards on 50 catches. Still only 23, Adams has youth and his 2014 draft position (No. 53 overall) working in his favor.
Source: Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel
In breaking down the Pack's crowded receiver corps, reporter Tom Silverstein labels Jordy Nelson and Randall Cobb as the only "sure things." We would add Jeff Janis to that list, as well. It would ultimately be surprising if Adams couldn't crack the 53-man roster, but he was one of the worst regularly-featured wideouts in the league last season, averaging a stunningly-bad 9.7 yards on 50 catches. Still only 23, Adams has youth and his 2014 draft position (No. 53 overall) working in his favor.
Source: Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel
Pipes
Footballguy
I still say he's a great buy low. Yes 2015 was a disappointment but he showed flashes in 2014 which leads me to believe that ankle was a huge issue. In 2014 he had games of
8-77, 9-75, 11-121 and 11-117 in the playoffs against Dallas. Davante outplayed both Jordy and Cobb in that Dallas playoff game. I'm buying him on the cheap wherever I can. The talent is there hopefully he can put it all together on the field.
8-77, 9-75, 11-121 and 11-117 in the playoffs against Dallas. Davante outplayed both Jordy and Cobb in that Dallas playoff game. I'm buying him on the cheap wherever I can. The talent is there hopefully he can put it all together on the field.
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Chaka
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Meh, four games between weeks 6 through 17 managing 10 yards per reception (in those games), 1 TD while having games of 1-21-0, 1-10-0, 2-13-1, 1-10-0, 1-6-0, 1-6-0 (not a repeat), 2-17-0 and 1-7-0 during that stretch while also doing nothing notable last year when called upon to step up with little experienced competition (that still ended up outplaying him) and plenty of competition for his job today.
I'm thinking you shouldn't buy too hard on him.
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tone1oc
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Not to mention that ARodgers has had by far his lowest AYA when throwing to Adams. Only 5.9 for Adams, lower than James Starks (7.1) and Andrew freaking Quarless (7.3).
I pounded the table last offseason that Adams was fraudulent and would be bypassed on depth chart, draft capital kept him afloat last year. He will be a backup and out of the league in 2-3 years.
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Chaka
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While I agree I feel the need to say that you should be careful not to hurt your shoulder while patting yourself on the back.
tone1oc
Footballguy
Chaka
Footballguy
Yeah, that's kind of what I meant.
Care to post the complete list of players you were high on and low on at this time last season?
tone1oc
Footballguy
Nah, I don't want to pat myself on the back too much. I don't have a crazy post count and only post in SP, so if you really care to knowledge up you can.
Chaka
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cr8f
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Rhythmdoctor
Footballguy
There's the Adams I thought would emerge last season when he had every opportunity to do so. Probably sold too soon in Dynasty. I was so hyped on him coming into the league, drafted him in both dynasty leagues, sold him in both. It is the bears.
Houston turmOiler
Footballguy
So glad I sat him thinking he wouldn't play, then worried how effective he'd be. Seems pretty rare for someone to get concussed on a Sunday, then come back and play on a Thursday. Much less put up these numbers...
