rockaction 24,999 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 22 minutes ago, leave a whisper said: as someone who starts Evans & Godwin weekly - I am afraid Jameis will get benched before the end of season (he isn't great but no one on their current roster is a better QB) I think Arians hitched his horse to Jameis's star a long time ago and that Arians even being there is part of an ego stroke that he can indeed get the best out of a very talented yet volatile quarterback. I think that unless Jameis has over four turnovers plus in a game that he won't get benched. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tkrull 405 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Benched for who? Your options are Ryan Griffin and someone currently not on the roster. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fruity pebbles 3,270 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, tkrull said: Benched for who? Your options are Ryan Griffin and someone currently not on the roster. Exactly. There’s no Fitz in the wings anymore. He’s not only their best option but they also want to see him for a full season to judge what they’re gonna do with him at years end. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arodin 3,083 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 2 hours ago, rockaction said: I think Arians hitched his horse to Jameis's star a long time ago and that Arians even being there is part of an ego stroke that he can indeed get the best out of a very talented yet volatile quarterback. I think that unless Jameis has over four six turnovers plus in a game that he won't get benched. FTFY. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rockaction 24,999 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, Arodin said: FTFY. Indeed. I was thinking the effects of each iteration took a cumulative toll, too. But I see your point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Judge Smails 3,744 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Gunslingers will have bad games. We'll take 'em in Fantasy as it's all about opportunity. Real NFL? Not so much. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RushHour 802 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Jameis is a truly awful NFL quarterback. A colossal bust. For fantasy however, he mostly works.....and it's working for Godwin, that's for sure. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ministry of Pain 5,584 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Winston is not a CEO-QB and these days that's what teams want. He has all the athleticism to play the game, to make the throws but he just doesn't have it between the ears. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faust 5,295 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Bruce Arians not considering benching Jameis Winston Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheWinz 2,925 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 50 minutes ago, Faust said: Bruce Arians not considering benching Jameis Winston For the sake of the subscriber contest, I sure hope this is right Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faust 5,295 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Simultaneous implosion of Jameis Winston and Marcus Mariota signals sad end to 2015 NFL draft Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dhockster 1,842 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Bad news for Godwin owners: I have him on my FF team. Which means Jameis will be benched soon and Godwin will go back to being an average receiver. Sorry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wrigley 3,446 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, dhockster said: Bad news for Godwin owners: I have him on my FF team. Which means Jameis will be benched soon and Godwin will go back to being an average receiver. Sorry. Benched for who? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dhockster 1,842 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, Wrigley said: Benched for who? It doesn't matter. It will happen because that is the way my FF season is going. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 5,406 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Arians is gonna ride this bust into the ground. He's not smart enough to see if there is a Kyle Allen in Ryan Griffin. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Capella 30,508 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Ryan Griffin has no arm strength at all. His outs were constantly getting jumped by DBs in 4th quarters of preseason games. He isn’t a guy who should be starting anywhere. Ride Jameis out, win your 5-6 games, trade the farm to move up to draft the next loser. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VikingFrog 774 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Anyone got the cajones this week? Last year they benched him after 4 pick game. But this year they are just riding it out. Maybe he gets right after the bye? Hard to trust but the upside of this team chucking the ball is there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rockaction 24,999 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 On 10/15/2019 at 2:08 PM, Capella said: Ryan Griffin has no arm strength at all. His outs were constantly getting jumped by DBs in 4th quarters of preseason games. He isn’t a guy who should be starting anywhere. Ride Jameis out, win your 5-6 games, trade the farm to move up to draft the next loser. Funny. I actually still believe in this guy and this system. He had a terrible game last game out. Okay. Move on and learn. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
simey 7,988 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, VikingFrog said: Anyone got the cajones this week? Last year they benched him after 4 pick game. But this year they are just riding it out. Maybe he gets right after the bye? Hard to trust but the upside of this team chucking the ball is there. I am playing him in a superflex (you can start 2 QBs). I have options to play another QB, but I'm going with him. Not all of his games have been bad this year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rockaction 24,999 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, simey said: I am playing him in a superflex (you can start 2 QBs). I have options to play another QB, but I'm going with him. Not all of his games have been bad this year. Even when they're bad, they're not single digit games due to volume alone. I don't think he's been under ten all year, and he's been awfully close to thirty or so once or twice. I pay attention, though my main league is 20 yds/point, not 25, so YMMV. He averages around twenty a game or so. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VikingFrog 774 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 44 minutes ago, rockaction said: Even when they're bad, they're not single digit games due to volume alone. I don't think he's been under ten all year, and he's been awfully close to thirty or so once or twice. I pay attention, though my main league is 20 yds/point, not 25, so YMMV. He averages around twenty a game or so. He scored 24 points in our league scoring WITH 6 turnovers. I didn’t own him nor did I start him at the time. All qbs score a lot but looking at his floor even on bad games it’s pretty good. His worst game by far has been game 1 against San Fran. Wentz just put up a worse scoring day against Dallas. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rockaction 24,999 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 minute ago, VikingFrog said: He scored 24 points in our league scoring WITH 6 turnovers. I didn’t own him nor did I start him at the time. All qbs score a lot but looking at his floor even on bad games it’s pretty good. His worst game by far has been game 1 against San Fran. Wentz just put up a worse scoring day against Dallas. Yep, and Kyler Murray and Darnold, both of whom I started in a Superflex league, combined for four total points last week. FOUR. Ooof. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
simey 7,988 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 55 minutes ago, rockaction said: Even when they're bad, they're not single digit games due to volume alone. I don't think he's been under ten all year, and he's been awfully close to thirty or so once or twice. I pay attention, though my main league is 20 yds/point, not 25, so YMMV. He averages around twenty a game or so. My main league is 20 yds too. I don't have Winston in that league, but he did get 9 points in the first game of the season. We are penalized -2 for interceptions, and he threw 3 in that one with low volume. In that same league he got 16 points for his last outing with 5 interceptions, which isn't bad considering all the turnovers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
simey 7,988 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 22 minutes ago, rockaction said: Yep, and Kyler Murray and Darnold, both of whom I started in a Superflex league, combined for four total points last week. FOUR. Ooof. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rockaction 24,999 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 minute ago, simey said: My main league is 20 yds too. I don't have Winston in that league, but he did get 9 points in the first game of the season. We are penalized -2 for interceptions, and he threw 3 in that one with low volume. In that same league he got 16 points for his last outing with 5 interceptions, which isn't bad considering all the turnovers. True that different leagues give different penalties and the first game was a mess in SF for him. But I think your point and my follow-up stick, though. Even in a disastrous outing, he can score respectably. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sarlakticacid 625 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 53 minutes ago, VikingFrog said: He scored 24 points in our league scoring WITH 6 turnovers. I didn’t own him nor did I start him at the time. . I started him vs a team who had Car D that game. Scraped through by 1 Small sample size but avoid QBs in London who arrive 2 days before kick off Quote Link to post Share on other sites
davearm 921 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 3 hours ago, VikingFrog said: Anyone got the cajones this week? Last year they benched him after 4 pick game. But this year they are just riding it out. Maybe he gets right after the bye? Hard to trust but the upside of this team chucking the ball is there. They're riding it out because they don't have an alternative like Fitzpatrick now. He's in my lineup over Wentz, FWIW. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
icehouse 32 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) I think it depends on your league scoring. I’m still rolling with him in a league that gives 6 per TD and only -1 per turnover. Edited October 23, 2019 by icehouse Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Capella 30,508 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 3 hours ago, rockaction said: Funny. I actually still believe in this guy and this system. He had a terrible game last game out. Okay. Move on and learn. I just think it’s enough. It’s clear he’s very good when he’s on but he has too many games where he gives the team no chance to win. They would have beat SF and almost certainly Carolina if he played even decent and if that happened they are in the playoff race. There are just too many throws where he could have just thrown it away. He doesn’t get it and it’s year 5 so he never will. And it sucks, because he is sooooo good when he is on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rockaction 24,999 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Capella said: I just think it’s enough. It’s clear he’s very good when he’s on but he has too many games where he gives the team no chance to win. They would have beat SF and almost certainly Carolina if he played even decent and if that happened they are in the playoff race. There are just too many throws where he could have just thrown it away. He doesn’t get it and it’s year 5 so he never will. And it sucks, because he is sooooo good when he is on. That's a fair assessment. It's tantalizing, because when he is on -- and not forcing it nor flailing like he does where he has his arm cocked with that back leg buckling under -- he looks fully legit. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VikingFrog 774 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 hour ago, davearm said: They're riding it out because they don't have an alternative like Fitzpatrick now. He's in my lineup over Wentz, FWIW. Exact same choice and where I stand right now too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
McBokonon 3,312 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Had to start him because of Ryan getting hurt. Feeling pretty not too great at the moment. When he’s bad, he’s horrid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
McBokonon 3,312 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I’m feeling better 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
themeistersinger 314 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 So after the game Arians had these comments: “Everyone is going to say ‘Jameis threw interceptions,'” Arians said after the game. “Jameis didn’t throw one damn interception that was his fault. His receivers let him down today. … He played his tail off. You can write what you want. Not one of those interceptions was his fault, and it’s a damn shame.” Anybody know who the receivers should have been on those picks? I also saw that Mike Evans had 198 yards in the first 3 quarters, and received zero of the twelve 4th quarter targets - seems odd, no? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faust 5,295 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Bucs have more questions than answers in QB Jameis Winston Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Capella 30,508 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 hour ago, themeistersinger said: So after the game Arians had these comments: “Everyone is going to say ‘Jameis threw interceptions,'” Arians said after the game. “Jameis didn’t throw one damn interception that was his fault. His receivers let him down today. … He played his tail off. You can write what you want. Not one of those interceptions was his fault, and it’s a damn shame.” Anybody know who the receivers should have been on those picks? I also saw that Mike Evans had 198 yards in the first 3 quarters, and received zero of the twelve 4th quarter targets - seems odd, no? There was one right where Godwin may have stopped on the route. You’d like to give a guy having that phenomenal of a season the benefit of the doubt through. I don’t really remember what happened on the others. The center snapped a fumble when he wasn’t looking though. No matter how Arians spins it 10 turnovers in two games is lunacy. You can’t just blame everybody else for that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Capella 30,508 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Oh yea the other one was Perriman running the wrong route for sure. Christ that guy sucks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Grahamburn 2,066 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 The whole damn thing continues to be a #### show. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tackle for loss 187 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 I want Seattles defense this week. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LAUNCH 1,505 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 https://youtu.be/PODaUl4zY_w Is Bucs GM Running a Pro Jameis Winston Burner Account? Joe Praino and Andy Ruther offer substantial evidence that Tampa Bay Buccaneers GM Jason Licht is the man behind an anonymous pro Jameis Winston Twitter account and Amazon book. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rockaction 24,999 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 2 hours ago, LAUNCH said: https://youtu.be/PODaUl4zY_w Is Bucs GM Running a Pro Jameis Winston Burner Account? Joe Praino and Andy Ruther offer substantial evidence that Tampa Bay Buccaneers GM Jason Licht is the man behind an anonymous pro Jameis Winston Twitter account and Amazon book. In all seriousness, I remember I used to comment at boston.com for the Red Sox games and I could swear that on the scene around 2010-11 there popped up a bunch of suspicious accounts that sounded like disinformation in the form of positive trolling. I thought it was weird, and never could prove it, but I think these things happen. And I see dead people. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wrigley 3,446 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Better fantasy QB than real, and I’m fine with that keep chucking it to Evans 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Capella 30,508 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 3 hours ago, LAUNCH said: https://youtu.be/PODaUl4zY_w Is Bucs GM Running a Pro Jameis Winston Burner Account? Joe Praino and Andy Ruther offer substantial evidence that Tampa Bay Buccaneers GM Jason Licht is the man behind an anonymous pro Jameis Winston Twitter account and Amazon book. Quickly debunked by the beat writers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ourmanflint 155 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Jameis had 11 interceptions in his first 5 games last year and then had 3 the rest of the year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 5,406 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 hour ago, ourmanflint said: Jameis had 11 interceptions in his first 5 games last year and then had 3 the rest of the year. So they need to bench him again so he can watch the other QB perform and then when he gets back, he'll quit throwing INTs? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jello_Biafra 417 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, lod001 said: So they need to bench him again so he can watch the other QB perform and then when he gets back, he'll quit throwing INTs? If they bench him he won't throw any. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wrigley 3,446 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 11 minutes ago, lod001 said: So they need to bench him again so he can watch the other QB perform and then when he gets back, he'll quit throwing INTs? As long as he's back for ARZ and ATL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tanner9919 400 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 no talent bum. can't be trustedin your lineup. there's no way you'd start him as we get closed to the fantasy playoffs.no way! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wrigley 3,446 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 He’s the 12th ranked QB in my league He’s been a great Cam, Brees fill in Quote Link to post Share on other sites
That one guy 2,162 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Sold him for a middle of the pack 2020 1st in a superflex league. Might’ve been able to squeeze out more, but my team isn’t competing and the QBs next year are far more attractive. I don’t believe he has much long term value beyond this season Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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