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QB Jameis Winston, NO (3 Viewers)
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werdnoynek
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Grahamburn
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cstu
Footballguy
I know I've set myself up for that but I honestly believe everything I've posted here - and the questions I've asked have yet to be explained in an intellectually honest manner.
werdnoynek
Footballguy
You keep referencing these questions you keep asking... they cannot be answered... for either party.
You have the burden of proof, you prove them. Otherwise, we don't have to.
ETA: BTW, we've already given our answers, you just didn't accept them. Your turn.
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Grahamburn
Footballguy
I'll rephrase:
I doubt a team could fill a 53 man roster with NFL level talent if they only took "safe" players.
jurb26
Footballguy
CSTU is convinced the only relevant thing is public perception. Public meaning his perception.
I find him guilty then, in public perception, of killing 2 threads.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
I know I shouldn't make light of it. Just thought that was kind of funny. He allegedly drugs her, rapes her, imprisons her falsely, and then she jumps on the back of his moped for a ride home afterward.
Couldn't she have just hopped off and escaped? He's fat and runs a 5.0 forty. No way he could have caught her.
cstu
Footballguy
She was in shock and didn't know where to go. She didn't tell him where she lived, had him drop her off at an intersection, sat on the street crying while she tweeted 'someone help me' until a friend came.
cstu
Footballguy
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Grahamburn
Footballguy
werdnoynek
Footballguy
She would have to hold onto him too... unless she was strapped to the front like a deer, was that in her report?
Proust Loves Cake
Footballguy
For the same reason they interview family and friends and others who have had significant interactions with a player.
I think the Bret Favre jorts look is the way to go when skipping the draft.More troubling, IMO, is the apparent lack of motive for falsely accusing Winston. In fact, all of the potential motives offered by FSU fans are easily refuted. She had no prior relationship with Winston, so there was no jealousy. She didn't know who he was till months later, so she wasn't a fame or fortune seeker. And so on.
Why would he lie?
Why would she lie?
The answer to the first is plainly obvious. The answer to the second is a mystery.
According to her, Winston had to put her clothes back on her.
If true, she wasn't doing much of anything willingly at that point.
werdnoynek
Footballguy
Friends and family vs someone who accused you of rape and supposedly only had a single encounter with you??
That makes so much sense.
werdnoynek
Footballguy
Proust Loves Cake
Footballguy
Well it doesn't if all you want to hear is confirmation of what a great person he is to make you feel better about making the pick. This is Due Diligence 101, and i don't care how many family members, friends they interview, they are not doing their due diligence if they fail to ask her to tell her side of the story.
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lod01
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It would be the smart move so don't expect it. They could trade down, gather picks and still get this future BUST.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
so the 1st 2 picks in this yr draft will not be there to pick up and hold their jeresy's next to Roger; will be a funny thing to see.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
If she's too hammered to get dressed how is she sober enough to go for a ride on a moped?
FUBAR
Footballguy
we don't know what happened here, but based on a few years of work in this field I feel comfortable saying that illogical actions by victims of sexual assault are much more common than we'd like to believe.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Ron Wolf:
Don't think that applies here for 2 reasons. First is talent level. 2nd is nature of off field issues. If Winston were on Andrew Luck's level as a prospect, then it might be more comparable. Moss was considered a sure thing talent wise, but slid because of off field concerns. Those concerns should have been minimized if teams met with him at Marshall. I think he matured a lot there.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Yeah passing on scumbags always blows up in your face.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Proust Loves Cake
Footballguy
Haha, Bucs. Congrats on wasting your 2015 draft.
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werdnoynek
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#BOOM
cstu
Footballguy
They never talked to the victim who about to haul his ### into court.
You got your wish, now you gotta live with it.
cstu
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cstu
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jurb26
Footballguy
Wish?
I could care less if Winston is playing in TB or the California Penal League.I just got it right that he was going 1st because I didn't let emotion and bias cloud my judgement.
Proust Loves Cake
Footballguy
I got it wrong because I applied logic to the Bucs. #neveragainWish?
I just got it right that he was going 1st because I didn't let emotion and bias cloud my judgement.
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