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QB Jimmy Garoppolo, LAR (3 Viewers)
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Judge Smails
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They looked good run blocking and poor pass blocking. Though Chubb is a beast
Staying away from their passing game
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Jimmy got the yips
Ilov80s
Footballguy
In 20 years, we won't be able to explain to the next generation how Jimmy G became one of the 10 highest paid QBs in the NFL with a contract bigger than Brees, Brady and Cam Newton.
BobbyLayne
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Oh, come on. Intelligent design has been thoroughly debunked as pseudo science.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Not sure if this was covered (so many pages) but reports are the he’s tentative stepping into throws, as he seems to fear planting his repaired leg because if the picket collapses, he might get hit.
that’s....not great.
So he’s sailing balls, wildly inaccurate, and hesitates to make his quick timing reads because he’s not set.
Hopefully he can shake that ish off.
I’m still optimistic. We’ve seen him perform, when he took a terrible team 5-0 down the stretch. The recency bias in saying he’s terrible as though he’s never, ever shown anything is a little overwhelming in here. Sure, it was a small sample size, but the talent was there. I’m still in benefit of the doubt mode since he is coming off of a significant injury.
that’s....not great.
So he’s sailing balls, wildly inaccurate, and hesitates to make his quick timing reads because he’s not set.
Hopefully he can shake that ish off.
I’m still optimistic. We’ve seen him perform, when he took a terrible team 5-0 down the stretch. The recency bias in saying he’s terrible as though he’s never, ever shown anything is a little overwhelming in here. Sure, it was a small sample size, but the talent was there. I’m still in benefit of the doubt mode since he is coming off of a significant injury.
BobbyLayne
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That’s a shameNot sure if this was covered (so many pages) but reports are the he’s tentative stepping into throws, as he seems to fear planting his repaired leg because if the picket collapses, he might get hit.
that’s....not great.
So he’s sailing balls, wildly inaccurate, and hesitates to make his quick timing reads because he’s not set.
Hopefully he can shake that ish off.
I’m still optimistic. We’ve seen him perform, when he took a terrible team 5-0 down the stretch. The recency bias in saying he’s terrible as though he’s never, ever shown anything is a little overwhelming in here. Sure, it was a small sample size, but the talent was there. I’m still in benefit of the doubt mode since he is coming off of a significant injury.
Hot Sauce Guy
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Hot Sauce Guy
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BobbyLayne
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We’re in butt fumble territory with this guy.
Butt two AFC Championship Games...
Butt two AFC Championship Games...
The Frankman
Footballguy
... first game back in a year give him a break yikes...
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Obviously the guy needs to shake off the rust so he deserves a break.
Can't wait for real games to see real football and find out about these guys.
Interseptopus
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Interseptopus
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Is it Shanahan or the players you like? both?
IMO the players are uninspiring to say the least.
The only proven asset they have is Kittle. The rest is debatable at best
jm192
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A few months ago, I thought I liked Jimmy G. I thought Pettis was about to bloom. Now, I agree. The only one I'm terribly interested in is Kittle.
I hope Pettis figures it out, I went and got a decent number of shares.
Interseptopus
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I stand by my formula. Pettis and Samuel both meet the criteria toward never being a fantasy wr1. it's very possible the offense is high volume and one ends up being an exception but at this point the only thing that gets anyone excited about for their offense is full of "but has potential"s.
Pettis and Samuel have late breakout ages and injury histories... but they have potential
McKinnon ans Coleman dont have a history of staying healthy... but they have potential
JimmyG is coming off an ACL tear and is relatively unproven... but he has potential
Idk where people are gettinfnthat this offense is going to be a huge powerhouse. sure, it's the most potential/raw talent surrounding JimmyG in his 49er history but its unproven and a huge gamble. especially in a division with LAR and SEA
Wingnut
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Kyle Shanahan responds to Chris Mortensen suggesting Jimmy Garoppolo isn’t mentally keeping up
https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/127465-shanahan-responds-chris-mortensen-suggesting-garoppolo-keeping-mentally/
Mortensen, he commented on the podcast that he could envision the 49ers moving on from Garoppolo. That's not a new take, but the journalist added a little something to the reasoning.
"Obviously, he tore his ACL early in the season last year, but I think there's been some other things that I don't think Kyle Shanahan likes what he sees," Mortensen said. "I'm not sure if it's prep or — Kyle, I think he's one of the top three offensive coordinators in football […] Mentally, you'd better be able to keep up with Kyle. Kyle, I'm not sure he's a patient, patient guy, especially when it comes to quarterbacks.
"They're at the point where they want to win. John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan are kind of tied at the hip there. I'm anxious to see what happens at the start of the season with Garoppolo if they don't think he's ready."
Is there some concern that maybe Garoppolo is having trouble mentally keeping up with Shanahan? Is he still having a problem grasping the playbook and offense, as Mortensen suggests? He goes on to question whether or not Garoppolo will be the starter for the 49ers' game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on September 8.
"I heard it hasn't been pretty," Mortensen adds. "I heard what we've seen in preseason is kind of what we were seeing in practice a bit."
That last comment would go along with what New England Patriots analyst Scott Zolak said on Thursday, calling Garoppolo "one of the worst practice quarterbacks we've had here."
Head coach Kyle Shanahan joined KNBR on Friday morning and was asked about Mortensen's comments. Is Garoppolo still trying to grasp his playbook and offense?
"I think learning the playbook is done," Shanahan said on the "Murph and Mac" show. "You can learn the playbook pretty fast. It's not like we're doing brain surgery here. You learn the playbook pretty fast. It's about performing it consistently. The way that happens is you play in games, you get a lot of playing time, you go through some ups and downs.
"Jimmy has had 10 career games. That was one of the most disappointing things for me personally. What I was looking forward to last year was knowing, alright, this is going to be the first season Jimmy gets to go in as a starter and gets to play a season as a true NFL quarterback.
"He only got to play two-and-a-half games. That was the most frustrating part. Not that he doesn't get to learn the offense of anything, that he doesn't get to go rep the offense. And now you get to take a whole year off and miss pretty much all of OTAs — he was only allowed to do 7-on-7, which is not real football — and then you throw him into training camp full-go.
"He's had some real good weeks; he's had some real good practices. But as (with) everyone, it is up and down. It's very well-documented that he had one very bad practice, the five-interception practice. Unfortunately, that was followed by not a great outing from our whole starting offense and the 12 plays they got.
"I think it's pretty normal this time of year for people to blow that up, but it is what it is. I think it's pretty obvious; the guy is coming back from an ACL, he hasn't played in a lot of games, and he needs to get out there and play football."
Fans will get a lengthier look at Garoppolo on Saturday against the Kansas City Chiefs. The plan is for the starters, including Garoppolo, to play the entire (or close to it) first half.
Shanahan said he isn't too concerned even if his starting quarterback has another poor outing against the Chiefs. That's what preseason is for. The coach views these games as an extension of practice, except defenders are allowed to get their hands on you now.
Added Shanahan, "We're real confident this year. We've got a good team. We've got the best team we've had here in three years, and we plan on getting better each week throughout the season and plan on Jimmy throughout the season getting better with our team. Hopefully, we'll be at the top of our game coming to the end, and we get in the tournament for the playoffs."
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
This has been a rock solid drive for JimmyG.
But they can’t run to save their lives.
4th & short had no chance - terrible play call, no protection. Easily batted down.
But I liked what I saw from a Garapolo on 3rd and long against the blitz both times. And the checkdown to the fullback was solid too.
Stayed cool under pressure, found his man, go Jimmy go.
But they can’t run to save their lives.
4th & short had no chance - terrible play call, no protection. Easily batted down.
But I liked what I saw from a Garapolo on 3rd and long against the blitz both times. And the checkdown to the fullback was solid too.
Stayed cool under pressure, found his man, go Jimmy go.
People are myopic and fail to realize that he’s just coming back from a major injury. The 49er O, BY THE END OF 2019, will be very good
BobbyLayne
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Nice game. Pettis’ ADP had been dropping Ike a rock. I moved him back into WR4/WR5 territory. Full PPR.
IMO, Deebo is the guy to own. He passes the eye ball test and can be special (dynasty).
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BobbyLayne
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Have him targeted for the later rounds as well. In redrafts many rookie WRs are very inconsistent.
Long term, without question Samuel. He and Hurd were dynamic this summer, but neither will be starting Week 1.
Interseptopus
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BobbyLayne
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Yep, great stash at WR6/7 price. The trick will be holding him through the bye weeks but the worst ones from the looks of my mocks will be 9, 10 & 12. Should know by then if he’s moved clearly past Goodwin & Pettis and getting consistent targets.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Happily took JimmyG as my QB2 in the 18th - Niners don’t run well but have a ton of receiving weapons.
As a Niner fan what I saw against KC was not ideal for willing NFL games. Defense was shaky, secondary is still a mess, and pass rush nowhere near what I wanted to see. Of course against the KC juggernaut a lot of defenses will look like that. But SF also struggled to run the ball, but a bright spot of Garrapolo was the return of the screen game & checkdown to the RB/TE. I expect a lot of that.
Real football aside, JimmyG is going to be a FF asset this year. He looked poised, and made all the throws. He was a little late on the floater to Petis - it was an incredibly difficult throw, but a split second got Petis creamed (probably why he’s banged up) but otherwise a pretty flawless performance. He’s going to throw for a lot of yards, and put some points on the board.
And at some point gets yet another weapon in McKinnon, while Samuel develops at the pro level. And he looks ready.
I’m optimistic. For FF I’d take Garrapolo over Winston & a couple others as a backup.
As a Niner fan what I saw against KC was not ideal for willing NFL games. Defense was shaky, secondary is still a mess, and pass rush nowhere near what I wanted to see. Of course against the KC juggernaut a lot of defenses will look like that. But SF also struggled to run the ball, but a bright spot of Garrapolo was the return of the screen game & checkdown to the RB/TE. I expect a lot of that.
Real football aside, JimmyG is going to be a FF asset this year. He looked poised, and made all the throws. He was a little late on the floater to Petis - it was an incredibly difficult throw, but a split second got Petis creamed (probably why he’s banged up) but otherwise a pretty flawless performance. He’s going to throw for a lot of yards, and put some points on the board.
And at some point gets yet another weapon in McKinnon, while Samuel develops at the pro level. And he looks ready.
I’m optimistic. For FF I’d take Garrapolo over Winston & a couple others as a backup.
