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Clash of Clans (Official thread) (7 Viewers)
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Black Box
Footballguy
I remember seeing the same sort of thing: a screen cap of a post listing everything. But maybe I'm misremembering.
Theory was an admin posted to the wrong forum and quickly deleted it, but maybe someone gained access to a private forum (if this one turns out to be true as well).
sartre
Footballguy
I like a lot about this:
- promotes more scouting, in a way that benefits the scout as well as the clan
- promotes early attacks from our lower ranks, so they don't get boxed out
- delegation of leadership -- I realize how hard it must be to coordinate 50 folks of varying level. Employ some lieutenants for better coordination / less overload. SMN and doc are two obvious candidates here (assuming they were up for it). They could direct specialized sub-teams. There's probably room for another 1 or 2. Could even rotate if folks find it too burdensome. Just thinking out loud.
sartre
Footballguy
Couldn't agree more. That has to be our mindset.
Of course if we draw a clan with 22 TH10 and 100+ wins, and it looks completely hopeless, then surrendering early is OK as long as there is no ambiguity about that call.
Short of that, we expect EVERYONE attacks twice, regardless of how much a longshot it might appear.
The Duff Man
Footballguy
After their first attacks it was evident that we would hang with them.
All the wars we have lost since I rejoined we have been outplayed TH10 v TH10. This was a war we actually could have still made up the difference, some others we cant.
I am going to go back to one attack at war open, one attack second day to see if that reduces stupid mental errors from rushing.
All the wars we have lost since I rejoined we have been outplayed TH10 v TH10. This was a war we actually could have still made up the difference, some others we cant.
I am going to go back to one attack at war open, one attack second day to see if that reduces stupid mental errors from rushing.
The Duff Man
Footballguy
If they want to stop farming wars there are easy ways to do it. Make a penalty if you dont get enough stars as a clan.
Maybe it costs to start the war...then you get your "fee" back if you earn 33% of available stars.
If you dont get 50% of available stars, you get ZERO war loot.
This would force farming clans to try to get some stars. It would also force their opponent to get stars so they werent at risk of a star rush at the end to lose.
And if gou dont intend to try (farmers) there is now zero incentive to war and actually a penalty if you do.
Maybe it costs to start the war...then you get your "fee" back if you earn 33% of available stars.
If you dont get 50% of available stars, you get ZERO war loot.
This would force farming clans to try to get some stars. It would also force their opponent to get stars so they werent at risk of a star rush at the end to lose.
And if gou dont intend to try (farmers) there is now zero incentive to war and actually a penalty if you do.
AcerFC
Footballguy
culdeus
Footballguy
Copied one of their war bases and made some heavy changes to make it better anti-hog.
i really hope someone grabs my old war base. It took 12 wars to be 3 starred and it took a TH10 with Max Gowipe and 3 max freeze spells and big heroes to finally wipe me.
I think it's perfect for a middle tier TH9 with skull walls complete. I think purple walls would be too easy to fur coat it to death.
i really hope someone grabs my old war base. It took 12 wars to be 3 starred and it took a TH10 with Max Gowipe and 3 max freeze spells and big heroes to finally wipe me.
I think it's perfect for a middle tier TH9 with skull walls complete. I think purple walls would be too easy to fur coat it to death.
beer 30
Footballguy
Can you consolidate all the "what do I upgrade next?" questions into one post to make it easier to find?
igbomb
Footballguy
Personal observations from last war:
- I HAVE to get my first attack in the night war starts. Work is preposterously busy these days and I can't count on squeezing an attack in during the day anymore. Any plans that call for delays into the AM will need to exclude me.
- I HAVE to find some strategies that reliably work. I have been terrible lately. I have max TH9 golem/wiz/witch/pekka/hogs but can't seem to find a niche. I'm now researching skulls and may try out some air attacks for the first time, but it's been very frustrating lately.
- One of main issues is I don't know how to read a base. I'm no good at knowing when to use gowipe vs. gowiwi. What bases are better air (unless it's blatantly obvious) vs. ground. When some backside hogs can save the day. The list goes on. Part of it is time. I simply don't have the time, or even the inclination, to study bases, or find a similar one online, or watch videos of attacks, to ever get fluent in this stuff. Very frustrating. As I get higher I should be counted on to attack with some level of expertise but tend to just throw a bunch of troops at a base and hope for the best.
- I HAVE to get my first attack in the night war starts. Work is preposterously busy these days and I can't count on squeezing an attack in during the day anymore. Any plans that call for delays into the AM will need to exclude me.
- I HAVE to find some strategies that reliably work. I have been terrible lately. I have max TH9 golem/wiz/witch/pekka/hogs but can't seem to find a niche. I'm now researching skulls and may try out some air attacks for the first time, but it's been very frustrating lately.
- One of main issues is I don't know how to read a base. I'm no good at knowing when to use gowipe vs. gowiwi. What bases are better air (unless it's blatantly obvious) vs. ground. When some backside hogs can save the day. The list goes on. Part of it is time. I simply don't have the time, or even the inclination, to study bases, or find a similar one online, or watch videos of attacks, to ever get fluent in this stuff. Very frustrating. As I get higher I should be counted on to attack with some level of expertise but tend to just throw a bunch of troops at a base and hope for the best.
AcerFC
Footballguy
VA703
Footballguy
if its a strong base each clan would benefit if one th9 copied the base
stronger layouts will help us prevent stars
sjslacker
Footballguy
Just FYI i dont think they've fixed the x-bow targeting bug yet. Just be aware in case you assume down x-bows but get air x-bows.
http://forum.supercell.net/showthread.php/484070-X-bow-bug
EYLive
Footballguy
I can confirm this isn't fixed. I was attacked by dragons 2 days ago. I had one xbow down and one up, both shot at the dragons.
Shoot_Me_Now
Footballguy
I'd be happy to try to help air raids in this situation. The first week of the month would be the only time I can't but besides that I have plenty of time at work to pop in to help.
sjslacker
Footballguy
I assume you're a TH9 attacking other TH9's in war and going for 2 stars(going for 3 stars will take much more precision and very specific armies to deal with specific bases). If this is not the case ignore my post.
With gowipe the threats are teslas on your PEKKAs. With gowiwi the threats are wiz towers/mortars vs your witches and skeletons. So depending on the base layout see which of these defensive buildings are harder to deal with. If you see splash def buildings near the edges, making them easier to deal with, go with gowiwi. If the splash are more central and harder to get to, lean gowipe.
I would say use backside hogs if defensive buildings are packed tightly together (in bunches of 3 or more). Once the mid and or side defenses are distracted by your main forces sending a pack of few hogs (3-4) can take out backside defensives where you don't see giant bomb openings. These types of bases are best suited to hog backside.
Also spell choice is important as well. Heals work better with PEKKAs and Golems since witches and skeletons are very squishy and often die to 1-2 shots. Also heals work better when trying to go for a 3 star, keeping golems and your other tanks alive while your damage stays in the back and cleans up is a huge help.
sartre
Footballguy
VA703
Footballguy
culdeus
Footballguy
TH9 Basic base attack ID guide
· Does the base have spots for double bombs in the core?
o Yes – Move on
o No – Does it have either a lurable queen or clan castle?
o No – Move on
o Yes – Hogs with 4+ heals and a kill squad.
· Does the base have two down Xbows
o No – Move on
o Yes – Does >3 of Anti air have coverage from queen and two other anti air?
o Yes – Move on
o No – LaLoon. 4 or more hounds
· Is the base widely spaced with 2 or more towers out of range of AA?
o No - Move on
o Yes - GoWiWi with 8 loons. Or, GiWiWi with 8 loons.
· Is the base tightly spaced with anti air all deeply buried in core?
o No – Move on
o Yes – GoHoWiz with 8 loons.
· Is the base severely underleveled and disorganized
o Yes – Mass drag backed with a hound and 3 zap 1 heal/rage
· If none of the above really apply and you can't figure out what to do:
o Look at it as a hog base with a scouting run first, otherwise use 4+ hounds.
· Does the base have spots for double bombs in the core?
o Yes – Move on
o No – Does it have either a lurable queen or clan castle?
o No – Move on
o Yes – Hogs with 4+ heals and a kill squad.
· Does the base have two down Xbows
o No – Move on
o Yes – Does >3 of Anti air have coverage from queen and two other anti air?
o Yes – Move on
o No – LaLoon. 4 or more hounds
· Is the base widely spaced with 2 or more towers out of range of AA?
o No - Move on
o Yes - GoWiWi with 8 loons. Or, GiWiWi with 8 loons.
· Is the base tightly spaced with anti air all deeply buried in core?
o No – Move on
o Yes – GoHoWiz with 8 loons.
· Is the base severely underleveled and disorganized
o Yes – Mass drag backed with a hound and 3 zap 1 heal/rage
· If none of the above really apply and you can't figure out what to do:
o Look at it as a hog base with a scouting run first, otherwise use 4+ hounds.
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sartre
Footballguy
Actually if the rumors are true, a lot of us will be redesigning our bases. Perhaps I should hold off for now. I took a screenshot of the one you mentioned, so I'll have it later.
Shoot_Me_Now
Footballguy
^ probably not the best place to broadcast what's needed in cc. I mean we are playing Minnesota and there's a Minnesota minor league hockey thread on page 1. They are amongst us.
Jayrod
Footballguy
VA703
Footballguy
Sputnikv8
Footballguy
Different opinions on this. I was dying to get skulls, so, I went with them first. It fits my at-work raiding style the best and gave a huge boost to my DE raiding. They are also a very useful war troop. My .02.
beer 30
Footballguy
I think that is a lot of the problems we all are having. The game requires you to spend time learning new techniques and base identification as you move up in the ranks. If you don't, you get left in the dust. The clan I run is just getting to the point where dragon rushes no longer work and we are struggling mightily because you become so dependent on release and forget it. As you advance in the game it's very difficult to continue that mindset.
I'll never forget the attack doc launched about a month ago where he planned and used damn near every troop in the arsenal and pulled 2 stars. It was the most intricate beautiful attack I've seen and he got 2 stars. I don't have that capability in my wheelhouse either nor do I have the time to properly learn base identification which I truly believe is the key to mastering TH9 & 10. I still try but like you I'm frustrated a lot.
culdeus
Footballguy
Using my flowchart as a case study
14 - hogs
15 - hogs
16 - Broke the flowchart - this is a 4+Hound.
17 - Same as 16
18 - 4+Hound
19 - Gowiwi backside
20 - Hogs but argument for 4+Hound could be made
21 - Broke flowchart - Might consider 4+ Hound
22 - Hound
23 - hound
24 - hogs - making assumption no doubles near th
25 - hound
26 - Hogs - obvious double bombs are obvious
27 - hogs
28 - hogs
29 - hounds
30 - hogs
31 - hogs
32 - gowiwi
33 - gowiwi
34 - hounds
35 - hounds
36 - troll base
37 - hounds
38 - hounds
39 - marginal hogs
40 - hounds
41 - hounds
TH8 starts below here
14 - hogs
15 - hogs
16 - Broke the flowchart - this is a 4+Hound.
17 - Same as 16
18 - 4+Hound
19 - Gowiwi backside
20 - Hogs but argument for 4+Hound could be made
21 - Broke flowchart - Might consider 4+ Hound
22 - Hound
23 - hound
24 - hogs - making assumption no doubles near th
25 - hound
26 - Hogs - obvious double bombs are obvious
27 - hogs
28 - hogs
29 - hounds
30 - hogs
31 - hogs
32 - gowiwi
33 - gowiwi
34 - hounds
35 - hounds
36 - troll base
37 - hounds
38 - hounds
39 - marginal hogs
40 - hounds
41 - hounds
TH8 starts below here
Jayrod
Footballguy
Just looked at all of the TH8's. Pretty much all maxed. The only two that are even remotely susceptible to another TH8 drag rush are 49 and 50.
Most of us TH8's will be much more valuable as scouts in this one. TH9's are probably going to have to dip down and take care of 42-48 for us.
The Animator
Footballguy
The Animator
Footballguy
I came into TH9 with enough DE to get Levels 1,2 and pretty much 3. 4 and 5 were pretty easy to get to after. I would be at 6 by now, but builders are builders (slow as sin). So they are busy now. Gonna wait on AQ6 to get Witches2 after my Furs finish.
TenTimes
Backhoe Operator
The Animator
Footballguy
If I'm a Superfarmer, can I change the name... something more tasteful like LootLover or something?You make you a superfarmer
TenTimes
Backhoe Operator
Oprah the way you were giving away resources last weekIf I'm a Superfarmer, can I change the name... something more tasteful like LootLover or something?You make you a superfarmer
The Animator
Footballguy
You know it... Giving back to the community and all. I steal enough, why not give some back? What's 700,000 in resources between friends?https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sklep.zagrajsam.pl%2F145-381-large%2Fmaly-super-farmer.jpg&f=1Oprah the way you were giving away resources last weekIf I'm a Superfarmer, can I change the name... something more tasteful like LootLover or something?You make you a superfarmer
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PatsWillWin
Footballguy
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
For people that raid in Masters - what do you go with? Lavaloon? GoWipes? Fur coats? I'm not sure if I should hang out here or dive back down to gold.
culdeus
Footballguy
For FBGs.
I think we are vastly outmatched in this war. But, I think we are starting to understand how to wipe out TH9s. All of them.
Let's go into this with the idea that 1-28 focus on +13 for 3 stars up to 9am tomorrow. This covers their TH9s well.
If you need a scout, help figuring the base out, or a swap then negotiate that in chat.
Second attacks will concentrate on TH10, cleaning all TH9 to 3, and the TH8s. No real reason to get in a hurry on their TH8. Focus on the 9s first.
I think we are vastly outmatched in this war. But, I think we are starting to understand how to wipe out TH9s. All of them.
Let's go into this with the idea that 1-28 focus on +13 for 3 stars up to 9am tomorrow. This covers their TH9s well.
If you need a scout, help figuring the base out, or a swap then negotiate that in chat.
Second attacks will concentrate on TH10, cleaning all TH9 to 3, and the TH8s. No real reason to get in a hurry on their TH8. Focus on the 9s first.
EYLive
Footballguy
D'oh!
Black Box
Footballguy
sjslacker
Footballguy
I'm currently doing Lavaloon. I was doing Gowipe but it took too long, not really efficient for farming since it takes 3+ hours to replenish my spells. Also it is hard for me to save up elixir using GoWipe since I use all my spells in those attacks. Lavaloon I can get away with 3 or less spells most of the time so it's easier on the elixir.
Ditka Butkus
Footballguy
Quick read of the thread title and I thought I would find girl on girl action in here. Clash of Clams...I'm out.
