Cliff Clavin 3,182 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Honda ran into a monster. In a 40-man war, we are down 111 to 102 and have realistic shot at winning. The good news is that a couple months ago, we would have been 25+ stars behind and lamenting the lack of a honey pot.Edit to add that only three more bases need a star, and we have a path to get those. You should see the beast that Quattro got paired up with Best of luck with all that. Yeah, Quattro up against a clan of asian cyborgs, it's not going to be pretty.Perfect through 7 attacks including our 3 and two other TH9s... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasmaDogPlasma 7,345 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Just saw one of our opponents sacrifice a hound just to pop a centralized CC. That's new to me.Attack was a 3 star lavaloon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VA703 924 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 still doing +5 or we switching gears 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Clavin 3,182 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 So whats the plan in Quattro? Obviously not winning. Are we going for the XP or punting? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
culdeus 7,295 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 still doing +5 or we switching gearsIt doesn't look like it but we are stomping them in the math department. VA if practical can you hold off just in case we need to pickup a low set of stars? We may be able to do ok with just singles in the top 10 from TH9. I think we sweep the leg if we can just work up from the bottom turning every 0 or 1 into 2+. I'm gonna hog the #### out of 15 soon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Box 602 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 So whats the plan in Quattro? Obviously not winning. Are we going for the XP or punting? XP.Let's hit the 54 star threshold and then try and star as many bases as possible from there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
culdeus 7,295 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Is channing on the boards? He seems fairly inactive and his base is really bad. Who is he connected to? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arizona Ron 1,970 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 I need to start Looning in Wars. The max GOxxxx just isn't built for 3 stars. It's a solid 1, usually 2 but 3 stars is a rarity (at least for me). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VA703 924 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 I need to start Looning in Wars. The max GOxxxx just isn't built for 3 stars. It's a solid 1, usually 2 but 3 stars is a rarity (at least for me).max freeze and hounds then you're good to go Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VA703 924 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 I can holdoff second attack just need a couple hours headsup to switch out spells Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasmaDogPlasma 7,345 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Our opponent has significantly stronger bases than us and they are better than us, but apparently that isn't enough and they are also sandboxing us.It's really hard for me to understand how the game could be fun like that. I mean raiding has already gotten boring and it's only the thrill of war that keeps me interested. But how can there be a thrill when you are sandboxing? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
culdeus 7,295 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Our opponent has significantly stronger bases than us and they are better than us, but apparently that isn't enough and they are also sandboxing us.It's really hard for me to understand how the game could be fun like that. I mean raiding has already gotten boring and it's only the thrill of war that keeps me interested. But how can there be a thrill when you are sandboxing?How can you tell they are sandboxing? At this point I setup all my traps and spells with the idea that I know they are sandboxing and there's really nothing they can do about it. My dgb spots are obvious, but you can't pre trip them and you can't count on getting hogs to track around them. If you leave gb on the edge to be tripped it's really your own fault at this point.About the only value I see is that you can I guess know the contents of the CC and plan for it, but everyone has a pretty good solution for CC unless you roll in with a penthound and a Drag and minions pop out with air skeles, then your fooked. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
culdeus 7,295 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Ok how about this wild ### plan for 15. Doc is going to hate this.What we know. deep untrippable dgb in the north compartment with teslas to drag hogs up and over. ground skeles up north. cc is a standard witch/wiz/arch mix. Maybe saw a minion in there not sure. Queen is not exposed but accessible enough to go in and get.This is going to sound really wildass, but hear me out.From the north. Send in a bomb and cc and skeleton kill squad of: CC golem and 6 furs backed with a, wait for it......A HEALER 2 witch 4 wiz and my shiny new AQ20. Healer will not take any damage up there. Completely cut off from anti air. once cc is popped and engaged then.......Then send 2 furs 2 wbs and L20 King at his L10Queen. Two finger drop aimed at the NE wiz cluster and one finger at the queen. 4 heals. What could possibly go wrong? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Box 602 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Our opponent has significantly stronger bases than us and they are better than us, but apparently that isn't enough and they are also sandboxing us.It's really hard for me to understand how the game could be fun like that. I mean raiding has already gotten boring and it's only the thrill of war that keeps me interested. But how can there be a thrill when you are sandboxing?How can you tell they are sandboxing? At this point I setup all my traps and spells with the idea that I know they are sandboxing and there's really nothing they can do about it. My dgb spots are obvious, but you can't pre trip them and you can't count on getting hogs to track around them. If you leave gb on the edge to be tripped it's really your own fault at this point.About the only value I see is that you can I guess know the contents of the CC and plan for it, but everyone has a pretty good solution for CC unless you roll in with a penthound and a Drag and minions pop out with air skeles, then your fooked. If you get the chance, bring over an account to watch the attack on my base. It may or may not have been sandboxed, but he got the hogs around the GDBs. Next level hogging imho. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
culdeus 7,295 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Our opponent has significantly stronger bases than us and they are better than us, but apparently that isn't enough and they are also sandboxing us.It's really hard for me to understand how the game could be fun like that. I mean raiding has already gotten boring and it's only the thrill of war that keeps me interested. But how can there be a thrill when you are sandboxing?How can you tell they are sandboxing? At this point I setup all my traps and spells with the idea that I know they are sandboxing and there's really nothing they can do about it. My dgb spots are obvious, but you can't pre trip them and you can't count on getting hogs to track around them. If you leave gb on the edge to be tripped it's really your own fault at this point.About the only value I see is that you can I guess know the contents of the CC and plan for it, but everyone has a pretty good solution for CC unless you roll in with a penthound and a Drag and minions pop out with air skeles, then your fooked. If you get the chance, bring over an account to watch the attack on my base. It may or may not have been sandboxed, but he got the hogs around the GDBs. Next level hogging imho.I've lost track what clan are you in Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Box 602 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Our opponent has significantly stronger bases than us and they are better than us, but apparently that isn't enough and they are also sandboxing us.It's really hard for me to understand how the game could be fun like that. I mean raiding has already gotten boring and it's only the thrill of war that keeps me interested. But how can there be a thrill when you are sandboxing?How can you tell they are sandboxing? At this point I setup all my traps and spells with the idea that I know they are sandboxing and there's really nothing they can do about it. My dgb spots are obvious, but you can't pre trip them and you can't count on getting hogs to track around them. If you leave gb on the edge to be tripped it's really your own fault at this point.About the only value I see is that you can I guess know the contents of the CC and plan for it, but everyone has a pretty good solution for CC unless you roll in with a penthound and a Drag and minions pop out with air skeles, then your fooked. If you get the chance, bring over an account to watch the attack on my base. It may or may not have been sandboxed, but he got the hogs around the GDBs. Next level hogging imho.I've lost track what clan are you inQuattro Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasmaDogPlasma 7,345 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Our opponent has significantly stronger bases than us and they are better than us, but apparently that isn't enough and they are also sandboxing us.It's really hard for me to understand how the game could be fun like that. I mean raiding has already gotten boring and it's only the thrill of war that keeps me interested. But how can there be a thrill when you are sandboxing?How can you tell they are sandboxing? At this point I setup all my traps and spells with the idea that I know they are sandboxing and there's really nothing they can do about it. My dgb spots are obvious, but you can't pre trip them and you can't count on getting hogs to track around them. If you leave gb on the edge to be tripped it's really your own fault at this point.About the only value I see is that you can I guess know the contents of the CC and plan for it, but everyone has a pretty good solution for CC unless you roll in with a penthound and a Drag and minions pop out with air skeles, then your fooked. These guys do have great skill in hog pathing even knowing where the DGBs are, but they clearly know where they are. They're either triggering or pathing around the spots where they are, while going right over spots where DGBs could be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
culdeus 7,295 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 knocking Quote Link to post Share on other sites
culdeus 7,295 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 The attack on bb might not be too fishy. I mean he did it more or less textbook and didn't even have his queen up.He sent in a lot of hogs to go pop the cc and I bet try to test that section for BB. His deployment was the same style the viet used where they spread out. If your point defenses are as spread out as yours it is effective because a 5 spell TH10 hogger can just last forever with a wide spacing and know that if they hit some gb it won't hurt them too bad. I mean you still got like 9 of his hogs with DGB.The way he dealt with your cc was pro level. but not fishy. Dragons are useless vs. ground for the most part.I think his deployment pattern was actually pretty poor and he got kinduv lucky that his wiz stayed mostly wide and all hit the south section at just the right time. This is also one of the reasons why a symmetrical base is a no-no. For hogs a symmetrical base like this makes pathing very easy to project. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasmaDogPlasma 7,345 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 The attack on bb might not be too fishy. I mean he did it more or less textbook and didn't even have his queen up.He sent in a lot of hogs to go pop the cc and I bet try to test that section for BB. His deployment was the same style the viet used where they spread out. If your point defenses are as spread out as yours it is effective because a 5 spell TH10 hogger can just last forever with a wide spacing and know that if they hit some gb it won't hurt them too bad. I mean you still got like 9 of his hogs with DGB.The way he dealt with your cc was pro level. but not fishy. Dragons are useless vs. ground for the most part.I think his deployment pattern was actually pretty poor and he got kinduv lucky that his wiz stayed mostly wide and all hit the south section at just the right time. This is also one of the reasons why a symmetrical base is a no-no. For hogs a symmetrical base like this makes pathing very easy to project.Watch some of the other hog attacks. They either know where the DGBs are or they are the luckiest MFers on the planet.I'm a big OneHive fanboi and I see some of them do amazing things with hogs and potential DGB spots, but not like these guys. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TenTimes 516 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 I'm a big OneHive fanboi and I see some of them do amazing things with hogs and potential DGB spots, but not like these guys.Find out if this clan has a youtube channel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
culdeus 7,295 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 (edited) You guys are just falling to TH10 hog raids. 25 more spots and 5 spells are a mother####er. And your bases are just begging for it. So symetrical. PDP yours needs to be completely scrapped imo.What's interesting is they don't seem to be particularly concerned with the queen. Edited March 25, 2015 by culdeus Quote Link to post Share on other sites
culdeus 7,295 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 See, look how Buck's base worked for this. His towers are all over the place a little splash here a little point there and the TH is shaded. He shut that guy's hogs down quick.He got a little help from having a stray wiz left in the cc but his cc spot really helped make that happen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
culdeus 7,295 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 (edited) From quattro the 4 bases below need to be tossed out and started over imo. Bucky is really the only one following the modern design rules that can make 3 stars really a huge pain in the ###. PDP - why don't you copy SUPERBASE? It's absolutely unstoppable. Not sure how many wars we are on now but it's at least 20-0 at this point versus top level clans.Blackbox - Acer's base is going to end up being SUPERBASE2.0 and is worth copying, but it's in beta phase right now. Tower and traps are still under development. Myk - Turtles last base #16 is the other one to copy. The exposed TH is a really fun sucker touch.CN - Turtles 24 is solid. Has a few flaws but with skulls and legos most of those can be dealt with. Edited March 25, 2015 by culdeus Quote Link to post Share on other sites
culdeus 7,295 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 need an invite back to fbg1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
culdeus 7,295 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 See, look how Buck's base worked for this. His towers are all over the place a little splash here a little point there and the TH is shaded. He shut that guy's hogs down quick.He got a little help from having a stray wiz left in the cc but his cc spot really helped make that happen. buck only suggestion is maybe use your walls circling your cc to make more imperfect junctions on the edge. Not a real reason to totally encircle your clan castle. Can make wall busting harder. VA had a post about it yesterday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasmaDogPlasma 7,345 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 You guys are just falling to TH10 hog raids. 25 more spots and 5 spells are a mother####er. And your bases are just begging for it. So symetrical. PDP yours needs to be completely scrapped imo.What's interesting is they don't seem to be particularly concerned with the queen.If my base is that bad, I would have thought FBGS would have managed more than one star on it when they faced it But yeah, it's been three starred now so I'll be looking for something else. Where can I find this Superbase? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
culdeus 7,295 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 You guys are just falling to TH10 hog raids. 25 more spots and 5 spells are a mother####er. And your bases are just begging for it. So symetrical. PDP yours needs to be completely scrapped imo.What's interesting is they don't seem to be particularly concerned with the queen.If my base is that bad, I would have thought FBGS would have managed more than one star on it when they faced it But yeah, it's been three starred now so I'll be looking for something else. Where can I find this Superbase?It's my current war base. It's stopped everything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasmaDogPlasma 7,345 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 (edited) Can someone open FBGS please? Edited March 25, 2015 by PlasmaDogPlasma Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Bender 6,527 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 (edited) PDPCan I invite you?We had another request at the same time and I hit reject for the wrong one of course.I'm sorry - let me know.I'm an idiot - this is like the 4th time I've done it too Edited March 25, 2015 by John Bender Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beer 30 3,340 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 You guys are just falling to TH10 hog raids. 25 more spots and 5 spells are a mother####er. And your bases are just begging for it. So symetrical. PDP yours needs to be completely scrapped imo.What's interesting is they don't seem to be particularly concerned with the queen.If my base is that bad, I would have thought FBGS would have managed more than one star on it when they faced it But yeah, it's been three starred now so I'll be looking for something else. Where can I find this Superbase?It's my current war base. It's stopped everything. I have a screen shot from a few weeks ago, don't know how much it's changed since then and don't want to publish it here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Bender 6,527 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Looks like I need to change it from invite only to open to get him back in without the wait timePDP post here when youre ready and ill keep f4ing and open it immediately Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasmaDogPlasma 7,345 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Looks like I need to change it from invite only to open to get him back in without the wait timePDP post here when youre ready and ill keep f4ing and open it immediatelygo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EYLive 5,201 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 The attack on bb might not be too fishy. I mean he did it more or less textbook and didn't even have his queen up.He sent in a lot of hogs to go pop the cc and I bet try to test that section for BB. His deployment was the same style the viet used where they spread out. If your point defenses are as spread out as yours it is effective because a 5 spell TH10 hogger can just last forever with a wide spacing and know that if they hit some gb it won't hurt them too bad. I mean you still got like 9 of his hogs with DGB.The way he dealt with your cc was pro level. but not fishy. Dragons are useless vs. ground for the most part.I think his deployment pattern was actually pretty poor and he got kinduv lucky that his wiz stayed mostly wide and all hit the south section at just the right time. This is also one of the reasons why a symmetrical base is a no-no. For hogs a symmetrical base like this makes pathing very easy to project.Watch some of the other hog attacks. They either know where the DGBs are or they are the luckiest MFers on the planet.I'm a big OneHive fanboi and I see some of them do amazing things with hogs and potential DGB spots, but not like these guys.What stood out to me was the precision these guys have on the first attack. These weren't cleanup attacks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Bender 6,527 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Go PDP Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Bender 6,527 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 jesus12 people joined instantlychrist Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasmaDogPlasma 7,345 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Looks like I need to change it from invite only to open to get him back in without the wait timePDP post here when youre ready and ill keep f4ing and open it immediatelygoGot "Clan is closed" messageThink I need to be invited Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasmaDogPlasma 7,345 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 jesus12 people joined instantlychristPeople really want to get into a clan that has leveled up some Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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John Bender 6,527 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 (edited) What a disaster...I opened the doors and immediately had the clan full with peopleLike in the snap of a half second.Not sure how to invite PDP directly. Let me look it up - I think we need to be friends on Game CenteR? Edited March 25, 2015 by John Bender Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasmaDogPlasma 7,345 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 What a disaster...I opened the doors and immediately had the clan full with peopleLike in the snap of a half second.Not sure how to invite PDP directly. Let me look it up - I think we need to be friends on Game CenteR?Someone here know what to do Quote Link to post Share on other sites
culdeus 7,295 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 You were in the last war right? Invite from the previous war screen. That's the most foolproof way to do it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
coyote5 1,205 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 What a disaster...I opened the doors and immediately had the clan full with peopleLike in the snap of a half second.Not sure how to invite PDP directly. Let me look it up - I think we need to be friends on Game CenteR?dont they have to be accepted? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shoot_Me_Now 158 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 You were in the last war right? Invite from the previous war screen. That's the most foolproof way to do it.Yeah go to war map, blue star, my team, scroll down to pdp, view profile, and then you can invite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Bender 6,527 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Done.Should be goodThat was funThanks all Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Black Box 602 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 The attack on bb might not be too fishy. I mean he did it more or less textbook and didn't even have his queen up.He sent in a lot of hogs to go pop the cc and I bet try to test that section for BB. His deployment was the same style the viet used where they spread out. If your point defenses are as spread out as yours it is effective because a 5 spell TH10 hogger can just last forever with a wide spacing and know that if they hit some gb it won't hurt them too bad. I mean you still got like 9 of his hogs with DGB.The way he dealt with your cc was pro level. but not fishy. Dragons are useless vs. ground for the most part.I think his deployment pattern was actually pretty poor and he got kinduv lucky that his wiz stayed mostly wide and all hit the south section at just the right time. This is also one of the reasons why a symmetrical base is a no-no. For hogs a symmetrical base like this makes pathing very easy to project.Yeah, I'm on the fence about how fishy the attack really is.I'm all about putting up whatever base Acer is using, this is one I put together and I don't think tweaking it is going to save it Now where do I get the base he is using? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AcerFC 4,801 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 The attack on bb might not be too fishy. I mean he did it more or less textbook and didn't even have his queen up.He sent in a lot of hogs to go pop the cc and I bet try to test that section for BB. His deployment was the same style the viet used where they spread out. If your point defenses are as spread out as yours it is effective because a 5 spell TH10 hogger can just last forever with a wide spacing and know that if they hit some gb it won't hurt them too bad. I mean you still got like 9 of his hogs with DGB.The way he dealt with your cc was pro level. but not fishy. Dragons are useless vs. ground for the most part.I think his deployment pattern was actually pretty poor and he got kinduv lucky that his wiz stayed mostly wide and all hit the south section at just the right time. This is also one of the reasons why a symmetrical base is a no-no. For hogs a symmetrical base like this makes pathing very easy to project. Yeah, I'm on the fence about how fishy the attack really is.I'm all about putting up whatever base Acer is using, this is one I put together and I don't think tweaking it is going to save it Now where do I get the base he is using?send me your email address Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Box 602 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 (edited) Moroder three starred. The hits just keep coming!ETA: PM sent. Edited March 25, 2015 by Black Box Quote Link to post Share on other sites
culdeus 7,295 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Moroder three starred. The hits just keep coming!ETA: PM sent.Guessing. Max LaLoon with 2 freezes and 3 rage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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