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Clash of Clans (Official thread) (3 Viewers)
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Black Box
Footballguy
TenTimes
Backhoe Operator
This is a really good idea just as prep for moving to TH9. Especially hog based attacks which are going to be one of your best options at both TH8 and TH9.
Statorama
gangster
=Smackdown=
Footballguy
Hopefully adding a 1 gem boost for the next month?
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
Not sure, but I think he was talking about his ability to attack up and get snipes.
I'm going to be brutally honest here. Most TH8s suck at hog attacks - they can't read bases for traps and can't predict hog pathing because they've spent all of their TH7 and TH8 wars using dragons. It has to be specifically anti-hog for you to not have a good shot at the 3-star with Level 4 hogs. Get your hogs to that level and start using them. And actually, Level 3 hogs can take out bad, low-level TH8s.None of us have anything viable to attack with other than drags. It takes a bad base for L4 hogs to work. None of us have Pekkas upgraded so we could throw out a weak Goxxxx for 2* but if we're doing that, may as well just spam drags for the 2 and then wait until later in war when a TH9 has to come clean it up anyway.
A basic build for hogging is 6 barbs, 1 giant, 6 wizards, and 28 hogs. This gives you 25 more spots, which can be varied depending upon the base. If you know there is a dragon in the clan castle, pack another giant or two - so the dragon can lock on to the giant while it gets killed by your wizards. If there are tons of spring locations, maybe you want 5 more hogs. You might need more barbarians to get through trash buildings where you want to lure. Whatever. The more you hog, the more you'll know what troops are needed.
Your clan castle should contain 2 witches and a barb. Combine this with your barbs and a few of your wizards, and you have the perfect kill squad for anything other than a dragon - against which I would use a giant and wizards and mentioned above. If you launch your hogs from the same corner as where you lured their cc troops, your kill squad turns into a cleanup squad.
Once their cc troops are gone, you only have to worry about giant bombs taking out your hogs, but if you have heal spells dropped on giant bomb locations, a single one will not destroy your attack. Obviously, the double giant bomb hits will wipe your hogs out, so you need to cope with those. Either detonate one of them at a time, avoid the area altogether, or expose the bombs with a small amount of hogs.
As with anything, hogging takes practice to get decent at it. Once you are competent, Level 3 hogs can wipe out any TH7 and most TH8s with low level defenses, and Level 4 hogs can destroy any TH8 that isn't an anti-hog design.
LAUNCH
Footballguy
My base is now close to Max 9 and at first glance this should ruin my Balloonion fun, but most people are going to invest more in walls with the added sense of security from the air.
http://imgur.com/brZXANX Lvl 6 elixir upgrades back?
http://imgur.com/brZXANX Lvl 6 elixir upgrades back?
beer 30
Footballguy
My clan just made a decision to split between those of us with L4/L5 hogs and everyone else. We have been heavily dependent on dragons at the th7/th8 level, much to our detriment because the anti-air th8 bases have ate our lunch. The clan is casual at best with a few of us that are serious so it's been frustrating beating our heads against the wall. This new defense is going to force our lazy dragon rushers to develop a new attack strategy. We'll see how it goes.
GregR
Footballguy
I had a positive reaction to it.
In fact, the moment I saw the new building in action, I thought, "Fan."
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Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Honesty is greatI'm going to be brutally honest here. Most TH8s suck at hog attacks - they can't read bases for traps and can't predict hog pathing because they've spent all of their TH7 and TH8 wars using dragons. It has to be specifically anti-hog for you to not have a good shot at the 3-star with Level 4 hogs. Get your hogs to that level and start using them. And actually, Level 3 hogs can take out bad, low-level TH8s.None of us have anything viable to attack with other than drags. It takes a bad base for L4 hogs to work. None of us have Pekkas upgraded so we could throw out a weak Goxxxx for 2* but if we're doing that, may as well just spam drags for the 2 and then wait until later in war when a TH9 has to come clean it up anyway.
A basic build for hogging is 6 barbs, 1 giant, 6 wizards, and 28 hogs. This gives you 25 more spots, which can be varied depending upon the base. If you know there is a dragon in the clan castle, pack another giant or two - so the dragon can lock on to the giant while it gets killed by your wizards. If there are tons of spring locations, maybe you want 5 more hogs. You might need more barbarians to get through trash buildings where you want to lure. Whatever. The more you hog, the more you'll know what troops are needed.
Your clan castle should contain 2 witches and a barb. Combine this with your barbs and a few of your wizards, and you have the perfect kill squad for anything other than a dragon - against which I would use a giant and wizards and mentioned above. If you launch your hogs from the same corner as where you lured their cc troops, your kill squad turns into a cleanup squad.
Once their cc troops are gone, you only have to worry about giant bombs taking out your hogs, but if you have heal spells dropped on giant bomb locations, a single one will not destroy your attack. Obviously, the double giant bomb hits will wipe your hogs out, so you need to cope with those. Either detonate one of them at a time, avoid the area altogether, or expose the bombs with a small amount of hogs.
As with anything, hogging takes practice to get decent at it. Once you are competent, Level 3 hogs can wipe out any TH7 and most TH8s with low level defenses, and Level 4 hogs can destroy any TH8 that isn't an anti-hog design.
I'm all for getting away from drags. They are boring and frustrating as hell.
Quattro> Expect a lot fails for the next few weeks from me. No more drags. EVER (except for sniping).
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TenTimes
Backhoe Operator
The end of TH8 is a long dark road full of misery and 2* attacks (unless you find a groove with hogs). Like boot camp before getting in to TH9, which has been a blast so far.Honesty is great
I'm all for getting away from drags. They are boring and frustrating as hell.
Quattro> Expect a lot fails for the next few weeks from me. No more drags. EVER (except for sniping).
Besides, you learn the most from the lumps.. I earned the least stars but learned the most about the game at late TH8. I liked the guise of "practice" wars in Honda, kept the discouragement from failing so much at bay.
freeannyong
Footballguy
culdeus
Footballguy
If the queen suck radius for killing her is really shortened then that might end the game for me. At that point you really have no viable 3 star strats which are reliable. This hurts golaloon as well as gohog as well as hgh. Alot. All of them rely at least in small part on getting the queen and cc dead in the first push, those that didn't were air spam attacks that had varying levels of finesse to them on good bases or just straight air spam on bad bases. Now the farter will make that harder.
Honesty is greatI'm going to be brutally honest here. Most TH8s suck at hog attacks - they can't read bases for traps and can't predict hog pathing because they've spent all of their TH7 and TH8 wars using dragons. It has to be specifically anti-hog for you to not have a good shot at the 3-star with Level 4 hogs. Get your hogs to that level and start using them. And actually, Level 3 hogs can take out bad, low-level TH8s.None of us have anything viable to attack with other than drags. It takes a bad base for L4 hogs to work. None of us have Pekkas upgraded so we could throw out a weak Goxxxx for 2* but if we're doing that, may as well just spam drags for the 2 and then wait until later in war when a TH9 has to come clean it up anyway.
A basic build for hogging is 6 barbs, 1 giant, 6 wizards, and 28 hogs. This gives you 25 more spots, which can be varied depending upon the base. If you know there is a dragon in the clan castle, pack another giant or two - so the dragon can lock on to the giant while it gets killed by your wizards. If there are tons of spring locations, maybe you want 5 more hogs. You might need more barbarians to get through trash buildings where you want to lure. Whatever. The more you hog, the more you'll know what troops are needed.
Your clan castle should contain 2 witches and a barb. Combine this with your barbs and a few of your wizards, and you have the perfect kill squad for anything other than a dragon - against which I would use a giant and wizards and mentioned above. If you launch your hogs from the same corner as where you lured their cc troops, your kill squad turns into a cleanup squad.
Once their cc troops are gone, you only have to worry about giant bombs taking out your hogs, but if you have heal spells dropped on giant bomb locations, a single one will not destroy your attack. Obviously, the double giant bomb hits will wipe your hogs out, so you need to cope with those. Either detonate one of them at a time, avoid the area altogether, or expose the bombs with a small amount of hogs.
As with anything, hogging takes practice to get decent at it. Once you are competent, Level 3 hogs can wipe out any TH7 and most TH8s with low level defenses, and Level 4 hogs can destroy any TH8 that isn't an anti-hog design.
I'm all for getting away from drags. They are boring and frustrating as hell.
Quattro> Expect a lot fails for the next few weeks from me. No more drags. EVER (except for sniping).
When you're starting out hogging, go after the TH8s with lower-level archer towers and cannons. If there are a few of them hitting one of your hogs, he won't last long even in a heal spell. Mortars and wizard towers are a lesser worry if you are healing.
And definitely look at bases that have been attacked already but weren't 3-starred. You'll often see tesla locations and bomb locations. Even if the first attack is a dragon attack, the bombs aren't exposed, but there will only be six - or fewer - 2x2 openings, and the three teslas pop up. Obviously, the other three spots are bombs.
Which reminds me - here's a HUGE point - there are two great places to drop heal spells: 1. where you know a giant bomb is, and 2. where your hogs are going. The first point is obvious, but the second one escapes people. If you're looking at your pack of hogs and notice they need to be healed, don't drop your heal spell where they are - and make sure the spell covers as many standing structures as possible. Instead, drop it where they are going - hopefully to a group of defenses so they can be in the heal spell while they knock down 4-6 buildings. Do that with all three heals, and you are golden.
culdeus
Footballguy
How do you link to a facebook post? Anyways you can see them freaking out here.
https://www.facebook.com/xmodgames
You have to find the specific thread about coc and I'm not smart enough to link it.
I'm still dubious they won't get the mod patched.
https://www.facebook.com/xmodgames
You have to find the specific thread about coc and I'm not smart enough to link it.
I'm still dubious they won't get the mod patched.
culdeus
Footballguy
Who cares? I don't give a #### about defense. I want to be able to design and execute an attack that makes me famous. If I just spam a ####ty gowipe at a base and get 2 stars that's boring and I'll go play something else.
The appeal here is that this is the closest thing I've ever found to a modern version of command and conquer that exists. They tweaked that game into irrelevance finally and I'm afraid that's where they are headed here.
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Sputnikv8
Footballguy
Hackers always find a way, of this we can be sure Its just cool to see them go through a panic for awhile.
TenTimes
Backhoe Operator
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Attached to that post is a picture of a zero star, zero percent war attack.
Supercell should parse the logs and anyone that has a zero percent, zero star fail with no troops deployed today should have their accounts banned.
TenTimes
Backhoe Operator
Supercell should parse the logs and anyone that has a zero percent, zero star fail with no troops deployed today should have their accounts banned.
this idea!
freeannyong
Footballguy
Yes acer. We thought it was the end of the game when they changed the giant bombs and when they changed not being able to lure hero's. Everything will adjust. These changes keep you on your toes
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I'm not so sure about your first assertion. A buried AQ, CC and leaf blower are going to make things pretty tough. The best way to kill a buried AQ previously was to rage a bunch of pups over her. If the leaf blower is blowing those pups away from her, it could make it tough. I guess it depends on if the rage offsets the fan enough.
beer 30
Footballguy
Just keeping this for posterity
Um, apparently...all of them
I'm with Acer, had no idea it was that prevalent until I rolled up on that post on reddit. And I can't believe it's so blatant? I thought SC was cracking down on this ####. It's a wonder we ever win a war and culdeus gets perma banned for #####ing about it.
AcerFC
Footballguy
So I just attacked a base with a fan. I attacked from behind. It did absolutely nothing. I was hoping to get in front of it, but never made it that far
Defensively, I am guessing that you can force attacks from a certain area and maybe push the loons/drags into mass defensive units.
Defensively, I am guessing that you can force attacks from a certain area and maybe push the loons/drags into mass defensive units.
Road Warriors
Footballguy
That will have little to no effect on drags. Just attack from the other 90% of the base.It would. Watch the youtube video showing the gameplay.. it really pushes the troops caught in the blast quickly.Will it actually push the balloons and make them faster? It's not clear from the description that it would actually work that way.I'm pointing mine to the inside of the base not out.Air Sweeper only points one direction so you just have to attack from the other side
ETA: http://supr.cl/AirSweeper
Guilty as charged!
freeannyong
Footballguy
Air sweeper is Max at level 6
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
AcerFC
Footballguy
culdeus
Footballguy
Best way to kill the queen was a King. Short of that we fail because we don't think about proper tracking. Most put the th center because they don't know any better. Those tiles are usually enough to get the queen dead with a jump. Now I'm not sure
culdeus
Footballguy
can't wait to see the next turtles war log.Just keeping this for posterity
Um, apparently...all of them
I might be able to sneak in there.
beer 30
Footballguy
http://i.imgur.com/HDrlqMh.png
The more I discover just how prevalent this was the more I begin to wonder how many wars we lost to the cheaters. My clan is by no means good but we've lost damn near every war we've been in for the last month. We ain't that bad, makes me think at least a 1/3 of those would have been wins with this update in place.
The more I discover just how prevalent this was the more I begin to wonder how many wars we lost to the cheaters. My clan is by no means good but we've lost damn near every war we've been in for the last month. We ain't that bad, makes me think at least a 1/3 of those would have been wins with this update in place.
VA703
Footballguy
thinking about it
I wanted to do some Chinese symbol name but there aer so many letters to choose frm
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Lots of people who can't speak english crying that they can't cheat any more and begging for it to be fixed before their war ends.
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Statorama
gangster
The Indestructible
Footballguy
I changed mine. You have to enter it twice and then type "CONFIRM" There is a length limit. Easy process though.
