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Agreed. Your attacks on th9 weren't even close. Max haste, 30 aq...it was too simple. Time to slide you up and move someone else down. If we lose it will be because of lack of 2* on the mid/lower th10.
Here's my rationale.
Scott needs to learn how to funnel first. I don't think he's on this board so it's hard to know what's getting through to him. It's hard to find bases now where you can get away with not funneling even at TH9.
That could be it (re: your bolded point). Maybe I'll ride it out a little longer.I dunno, I mean I've never really noticed any difference anywhere really. 1 in 25 is really bad. Conventional wisdom says the higher you go the more maxed bases you see therefore the more lootcapped bases you hit. Now maxed guys are still doing DE spells for the moment. I think if you did nothing from a max lab but DE spells you'd just now be wrapping up. So there's that angle to things.Yeah I know all about DE farming. Question was if folks around 3200 were seeing decent loot recently, or whether it is really bad, like it has been at 3400+I dunno. I farm de without regards to anything else. Most of the snipes on me are guys that show all archers for most part. That's probably what the bots build. Any reasonable deep protection of DE ensures you never get hit. 3000-3400 is the ideal range imo for DE farming. A lootcapped base gets you 4000-5000 a raid unless you just get really unlucky.
Not sure what my all time high was. I think I got close to Ch2 but fell back with no queen.
Used to be that every third or fourth base was DE lootcapped. Recently it's about 1 in 25. I'm getting bored of nexting.
I was hoping it might be worth dropping but if the landscape is the same at 3200, why bother?
I will say in M1 I find more dead bases than champs.
From what I understand most people use scripts to raid now. Xmod is not nearly as popular anymore because it actually requires you to build and drop troops and people can't be bothered to do that.That could be it (re: your bolded point). Maybe I'll ride it out a little longer.I dunno, I mean I've never really noticed any difference anywhere really. 1 in 25 is really bad. Conventional wisdom says the higher you go the more maxed bases you see therefore the more lootcapped bases you hit. Now maxed guys are still doing DE spells for the moment. I think if you did nothing from a max lab but DE spells you'd just now be wrapping up. So there's that angle to things.Yeah I know all about DE farming. Question was if folks around 3200 were seeing decent loot recently, or whether it is really bad, like it has been at 3400+I dunno. I farm de without regards to anything else. Most of the snipes on me are guys that show all archers for most part. That's probably what the bots build. Any reasonable deep protection of DE ensures you never get hit. 3000-3400 is the ideal range imo for DE farming. A lootcapped base gets you 4000-5000 a raid unless you just get really unlucky.
Not sure what my all time high was. I think I got close to Ch2 but fell back with no queen.
Used to be that every third or fourth base was DE lootcapped. Recently it's about 1 in 25. I'm getting bored of nexting.
I was hoping it might be worth dropping but if the landscape is the same at 3200, why bother?
I will say in M1 I find more dead bases than champs.
For several months (pre-upgrade) hovering around 3200, I don't recall getting many (if any at all) of the -1 cup variety snipe. At 3400+, it seems they consitute 2/3 of the snipes on me. You look at their bases in the defense log, and it's clear most of those are modding (crap bases with 3900+ trophies). Modders could also deplete the pool of juicy bases (e.g., "stop at exposed TH or >3k DE"). My wishful thinking was that perhaps that the majority of the modding population was out of range of the 3200 bases, and that more loot could be found at the M1/Ch3 border.
I think I've found one dead base and three snipes of my own since the upgrade. And I've nexted way more than I used to. What I see now is on par with what I recall crystal being.
I'm on the boards. Didn't know anything was wrong with my funneling, first I've heard of it. I agree that you should switch with me or someone else to th10-land though. 33 queen hitting a th9 is a bit overkill. I suck at th10 but was decent against th9s.
Most of the strong bases at TH9 do require a queen kill hybrid approach. Some queens are horribly out of position and this doesn't matter but the majority of bases at TH9, and especially max TH9 will not fall to a pure air raid. My notebook for you says you don't pack jumps and don't pack golems. I do take notes on people.
1. We don't need 3s on th10s. We need more shots to 2* th10s. You have 4th highest queen such a waste to use on a th9 at this point.
sorry this came off bad, was in a rush. I mainly thought scott wasn't on the board so there wasn't any way I could point him towards videos and stuff. It's hard for me to keep straight who is here and who isn't.Most of the strong bases at TH9 do require a queen kill hybrid approach. Some queens are horribly out of position and this doesn't matter but the majority of bases at TH9, and especially max TH9 will not fall to a pure air raid. My notebook for you says you don't pack jumps and don't pack golems. I do take notes on people.
Bleh, we are an air farming clan that does 6 ground raids a week. (Doc, exception). Doc is right on this point, as he often is right on a lot of stuff. You don't need big queens to get 2 stars on TH10, people fee-fi-fo-fum our bases with weak ### heroes all the time because I bet they spend all week GiBarching.
Sigh, we don't need more shots at 2. We need more realistic shots from the ones that are hitting TH10 right now. Current war our TH10 are 4/15 at getting two stars and the bottom line is that has pretty much been our average for the last two months. We could throw all of our TH10 at their TH10 and still walk away with 5 one stars or we can go into the war with the mindset to 2 the bottom half with the guys that are currently failing because they go to high for their hero/ability level.
My #math is bad on this.
cut the wiz, what are they going to do for you? You just need a couple to set the funnel. and the queen can help with the funnel also.
What's your trophy level? That could be causing problems. Use the filters in clan search to turn off the "Only Clans I Can Join" option. That might help.ETA: Could also try using Clan tags in the search field. Here are the ones I have on hand...
I am half and half with you here. I think you are right that we don't need more shots in the th10 range, but we do need our best attackers that have the firepower hitting th10s. I don't think me saying yourself and Culd are in that group and have the firepower is a surprise to anyone.
ME ME ME. I only have AQ20, and I think 15 would be just fine. And I'm operating with no BK at all. Add him in there and it's game over even faster.
Big fan of this.Well this should be fun
Maybe try a different gameplan?
Us lowly TH9s will get even fewer 3s (if that's possible...) than normal so us pissing away attacks probably isn't the most efficient use.
Our 10s hit everything from 20 down for 3*; 4 weakish 10s and all the 9s. That gives us 60*. The TH9s gun for 2* on the next couple low 10s and snipe the rest for 1*. We could get into the low 80s with that and depending on how efficient the 10s are hitting the 9s we could have a bunch of TH10 attacks left at the end to go for 2* on the 10s that the 9s couldn't. All goes well, we could hit the 90s.
Poke holes.
I havent even seen this matchup yet but....It's not about culds heroes for the 100th time. It's about the fact he can 3 star a max th9 with 90% success.
We have nothing to lose on this matchup. It may show us some things we can use or it may flat work. I'm in for this. We would need full buy in and people not high-horsin about this or that.Take_The_Shot said:Big fan of this.Cliff Clavin said:Well this should be fun
Maybe try a different gameplan?
Us lowly TH9s will get even fewer 3s (if that's possible...) than normal so us pissing away attacks probably isn't the most efficient use.
Our 10s hit everything from 20 down for 3*; 4 weakish 10s and all the 9s. That gives us 60*. The TH9s gun for 2* on the next couple low 10s and snipe the rest for 1*. We could get into the low 80s with that and depending on how efficient the 10s are hitting the 9s we could have a bunch of TH10 attacks left at the end to go for 2* on the 10s that the 9s couldn't. All goes well, we could hit the 90s.
Poke holes.
Was simply refuting his post that to 3 a TH9 you need 30+ queens vs. TH10's need BK's. Can 3 star pretty much any TH9 with 30 combined hero levels.Shoot_Me_Now said:
Who said that?
Just scroll up a bit and re read your own post - "Big Queen"Who said that?
I said the queen is more important for TH9, king for TH10. This is generally considered a non-controversial statement. For TH9 the King mainly just serves to kill the queen so a low level isn't all that big a deal. For TH10 you need to have the king do more than just kill the queen as often times the queen kill isn't a central part of the raid.
That's probably it. I had around 1600 trophies recently, but I read in this thread that to farm I should drop to around 500
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I would have thought it would be more expensive. If I was single without responsibilities, I would consider it.
Around 7pm et I will have access to the phone to do it.
