Clayton Gray 2,112 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 20 minutes ago, freeannyong said: Yes. Baby Drag with ground troops I've been using baby dragon since it came out. If the attacker doesn't have wizards and/or AQ on the baby dragon, the attack won't be successful. And putting two valks and a wizard with the baby dragon can disrupt a queen walk. At the very least, it will likely cause the attacker to use both a rage and the queen's ability. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
culdeus 7,435 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Clayton Gray said: I've been using baby dragon since it came out. If the attacker doesn't have wizards and/or AQ on the baby dragon, the attack won't be successful. And putting two valks and a wizard with the baby dragon can disrupt a queen walk. At the very least, it will likely cause the attacker to use both a rage and the queen's ability. You should be able to manage it without using both of those with double poison. It just so happens many right now only have one poison to bring. I need to fact check this but double poisoned valks are only going to get one shot off since the effect stacks. The last thing you want to do is phase vs a baby drag as a max baby drag can do huge damage to the healers. Sometimes you have no choice, however. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Clavin 3,182 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Matched with a clan on a 17 win streak 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JNox3 181 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 On 6/17/2016 at 4:59 PM, Pigskin Fanatic said: what is happening to the FFA when this doesn't get any play... I just thought it was another one of your accounts 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
culdeus 7,435 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 On 12/21/2015 at 7:59 AM, Snorkelson said: I have had some crashing, couldn't donate to war ccs for a war, I'd hit donate and crash. But next war it was fine. Feel free to check me out, snorkelson, manifestDESTINY. I was searching for best cc troops for clan war and found the fbg clash page, so I figure I'd ask for some opinions- forgive me if I've posted in the wrong place. Post poison update it seems drags and loons are the norm, since poison kills everything. For our next war I've put in a healer and 2 valks, figure the healer may heal them thru the poison spell and then heal heroes if it's still alive, but this may also be stupid. Any thoughts on alternatives to dragon? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VA703 924 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 does poison even work anymore? seems minions arnt phased and im wasting a spell Quote Link to post Share on other sites
culdeus 7,435 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 39 minutes ago, VA703 said: does poison even work anymore? seems minions arnt phased and im wasting a spell The retargeting of poison is a little wierd since they ended the lure. Double. Wait. Raid. Minions seem most affected by this since they are fast. I think they will attempt to move out, then engage the next target. Having them hitting something like a golem will look different than a valk, for example. This is why having two poisons is so important when not pulling. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VA703 924 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 supercell was just sold for 8.6 billion what do we see in the future??!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Box 602 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 21 hours ago, Shoot_Me_Now said: Fbgs th9s are probably around 15-65 in our last four wars getting trips on th9s. We're pretty average compared to these high level clans but "th9 needs more defense, badly" is quite laughable. But to be fair, I don't see our TH9s practicing all that much. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
culdeus 7,435 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 1 hour ago, VA703 said: supercell was just sold for 8.6 billion what do we see in the future??!!! New wall level Quote Link to post Share on other sites
culdeus 7,435 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Been watching the Regional FPC friendlies with shuke. The HGHB is absolutely insane. People are getting 3 stars with a heal to spare and not even using the back end hogs. Never seen bloodbaths like this. It really is similar to the bowler th11 meta, nearly identical in setup and execution. If the giants don't hit the springs they live the whole way thru, if they hit the springs the healers switch to the heroes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VA703 924 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 9 minutes ago, culdeus said: Been watching the Regional FPC friendlies with shuke. The HGHB is absolutely insane. People are getting 3 stars with a heal to spare and not even using the back end hogs. Never seen bloodbaths like this. It really is similar to the bowler th11 meta, nearly identical in setup and execution. If the giants don't hit the springs they live the whole way thru, if they hit the springs the healers switch to the heroes. hog giant healer bowler? whats the build ratio on this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clayton Gray 2,112 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 There's a video on the page before this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
=Smackdown= 729 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 14 minutes ago, VA703 said: hog giant healer bowler? whats the build ratio on this 4 Healers 12 Fur 10 Wiz 6-8 hogs CC full of 7 Bowlers 2 Heal, 2 Jump, 2 Poison Quote Link to post Share on other sites
culdeus 7,435 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 (edited) They aren't using many jumps. Most have gone in favor of rages. Also some funneling done by minions or baby drag or gobs or whatever works given the perimeter defenses and all that. Not always heavy wiz. Edited June 21, 2016 by culdeus Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VA703 924 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 got it so furs absorb infernos Quote Link to post Share on other sites
=Smackdown= 729 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 1 hour ago, VA703 said: got it so furs absorb infernos Could be wrong here but the videos I saw were TH9 on TH9 violence. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Clavin 3,182 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 1 hour ago, VA703 said: got it so furs absorb infernos Don't see it working at TH10. The concept is based on healers/heal spells which are useless vs TH10. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clayton Gray 2,112 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 So winning streak must not be overly important in matchmaking. We have a streak of 1 - slightly less than our opponent's 14. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Bender 6,527 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 15 hours ago, VA703 said: supercell was just sold for 8.6 billion what do we see in the future??!!! Anime porn featuring the archer Queen... Hopefully. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Bender 6,527 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Btw guys. I can be kicked any time. I haven't warred in forever. I still do keep my donation ratio up so you'll keep me around but it's nothing personal at all and would be fine if I unceremoniously got the boot. Just no time any more on my end. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
freeannyong 143 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 6 hours ago, John Bender said: Btw guys. I can be kicked any time. I haven't warred in forever. I still do keep my donation ratio up so you'll keep me around but it's nothing personal at all and would be fine if I unceremoniously got the boot. Just no time any more on my end. No worries. Have room for you still. Once you quit making 100 golf lineups every week you should be good to go Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Clavin 3,182 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 On 20/06/2016 at 1:59 PM, Cliff Clavin said: Matched with a clan on a 17 win streak Aaaaand their streak is now 0 after getting absolutely annihilated. 13 straight for the good guys. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
freeannyong 143 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Ended up with 7 or 8 th10 triples, just rolling strikes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Clavin 3,182 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 7 minutes ago, freeannyong said: Ended up with 7 or 8 th10 triples, just rolling strikes. Probably could have cleared all the 10s if we kept pressing right to the end instead of potting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Clavin 3,182 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 (edited) 15 hours ago, Clayton Gray said: So winning streak must not be overly important in matchmaking. We have a streak of 1 - slightly less than our opponent's 14. Our newest opponent has a streak of 0... it will stay at 0. Just an awful match for them. Edited June 22, 2016 by Cliff Clavin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shoot_Me_Now 158 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Total BK and AQ levels of the top 24 (their bottom 6 are th8 so it gets even worse for them). Fbgs - 1593 Ottoman - 957 What a disaster. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clayton Gray 2,112 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 17 minutes ago, Shoot_Me_Now said: Total BK and AQ levels of the top 24 (their bottom 6 are th8 so it gets even worse for them). Fbgs - 1593 Ottoman - 957 What a disaster. I don't see how that matchup ever happens. How long was the search? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shoot_Me_Now 158 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 3 minutes ago, Clayton Gray said: I don't see how that matchup ever happens. How long was the search? An hour, which is normal for us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Clavin 3,182 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 3 minutes ago, Clayton Gray said: I don't see how that matchup ever happens. How long was the search? TH levels are pretty even; we're +1 on each Quote Link to post Share on other sites
culdeus 7,435 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 How the hell did that clan win 17 straight? They showed nearly no hope at 3 starring a TH10 using any method at all. I just can't make my eyes go back and check it but I don't think they tripped a base with infernos using 10s or 11s. Pretty sure we got an 11 tripped and all but 1 10 tripped before just going pure pot. I wish you could bet on things like how many tries it takes to get 2 stars on VA's base or when do they give up? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pigskin Fanatic 582 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 16 hours ago, Clayton Gray said: So winning streak must not be overly important in matchmaking. We have a streak of 1 - slightly less than our opponent's 14. So based on that last FBGS matchup, Honda is the tough matchup for that other clan, finally facing a legit clan after 14 wins. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
culdeus 7,435 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 I sort of quit trying to track the war matchmaking parameters. It does seem they are tweaking it now more than they have in the past. Those that do track it swear up and down that the top 5 bases count more than anything. So a clan with really strong top 5, then a very steep fall-off in heroes can be put in a nearly constant unwinnable situation versus a clan that is well developed top to bottom. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Clavin 3,182 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 (edited) 25 minutes ago, culdeus said: How the hell did that clan win 17 straight? They showed nearly no hope at 3 starring a TH10 using any method at all. I just can't make my eyes go back and check it but I don't think they tripped a base with infernos using 10s or 11s. Pretty sure we got an 11 tripped and all but 1 10 tripped before just going pure pot. I wish you could bet on things like how many tries it takes to get 2 stars on VA's base or when do they give up? Its not a good base if you have anyone concept of funnelling. I was getting 2* on it by my 2nd try with no BK. Edited June 22, 2016 by Cliff Clavin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
freeannyong 143 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 (edited) Yeah that base VA used I hit for a 75% 2 with full Valk spam (30) in the previous war on their 1 Edited June 22, 2016 by freeannyong Quote Link to post Share on other sites
culdeus 7,435 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 1 hour ago, Cliff Clavin said: Its not a good base if you have anyone concept of funnelling. I was getting 2* on it by my 2nd try with no BK. I'm gonna bet this current clan has no concept of what a funnel is. That's what I'm saying. Could make for some funny fails. Was pretty damn hilarious watching a couple of these. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Clavin 3,182 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Can see the last clans war log now. 240-119. Had won 24 of 25 before us and none of those were close. Handed them their worst defeat by far. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Animator 46 Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 12 hours ago, Shoot_Me_Now said: Total BK and AQ levels of the top 24 (their bottom 6 are th8 so it gets even worse for them). Fbgs - 1593 Ottoman - 957 What a disaster. 11 hours ago, Clayton Gray said: I don't see how that matchup ever happens. How long was the search? I don't see why this is that strange... http://forum.supercell.net/showthread.php/1046176-From-the-Dev-s-Desk-Clan-Wars-Matchmaking "Defensive progress will be playing a much bigger role in Clan Wars matchmaking after the update." "It will place greater emphasis on matching the top of the war map, and less emphasis on matching the bottom." Similar defensive top end...check. Offense mismatch...check. Not matched as well on the bottom...check. Seems about right with what they said. As far as I've heard, I don't believe they try to match hero levels at all now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Future Champs 2,634 Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 That last clan folded pretty early for a clan on a 17 war win streak. Shame on them, their families, and their country. That said, I'm eager to push the button on th10, but there's no way I'm doing that while we're on a win streak. Considering not changing my underwear either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Animator 46 Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 5 minutes ago, The Future Champs said: That last clan folded pretty early for a clan on a 17 war win streak. Shame on them, their families, and their country. That said, I'm eager to push the button on th10, but there's no way I'm doing that while we're on a win streak. Considering not changing my underwear either. Pump as a TH10?!? That goes against everything I know about Clash! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Future Champs 2,634 Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Just now, The Animator said: Pump as a TH10?!? That goes against everything I know about Clash! I know. Th9 has been a part of my life for almost two years. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
culdeus 7,435 Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 There's a decent market for accounts these days. Funny thing is there are two tiers. Strong 9s run about 75 to 100 bucks. Max hero 10s run about 200 bucks. Sometimes you see 11s at the 200 range, but more like 250. Name change can crush the value. Many are selling 9s to buy 10s rather than wait out all the labs and camps and crap. Funny thing is I know someone that plays that Kate Upton game of war game. Developed accounts there go for mid 4 figures. No idea why. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VA703 924 Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 (edited) 16 hours ago, freeannyong said: Yeah that base VA used I hit for a 75% 2 with full Valk spam (30) in the previous war on their 1 people arnt as smart as us, we are fbgs! im hoping it draws at least 2 attacks per war and settles for 2 stars that's my goal Edited June 23, 2016 by VA703 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
freeannyong 143 Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Well this war the attacks on it should be comical Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beer 30 3,417 Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 6 hours ago, The Future Champs said: I know. Th9 has been a part of my life for almost two years. Same here, kinda excited to punch the button to go to TH10 or TH9.25 as it were. Going to be odd leaving the safe confines of TH9, November will be 2 years for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Animator 46 Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 1 hour ago, beer 30 said: Same here, kinda excited to punch the button to go to TH10 or TH9.25 as it were. Going to be odd leaving the safe confines of TH9, November will be 2 years for me. Beer Too?!?! The world is collapsing and swallowing itself! Next your going to say Clayton is going TH10! I enjoyed TH10, it was a fun and enjoyable TH. Welcome to the dark side. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beer 30 3,417 Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 20 minutes ago, The Animator said: Beer Too?!?! The world is collapsing and swallowing itself! Next your going to say Clayton is going TH10! I enjoyed TH10, it was a fun and enjoyable TH. Welcome to the dark side. Should maybe stay inside for a few days until the world rights itself https://flic.kr/p/Jk75Cg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Animator 46 Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 On June 21, 2016 at 8:20 PM, Clayton Gray said: So winning streak must not be overly important in matchmaking. We have a streak of 1 - slightly less than our opponent's 14. "Just a big list of check marks and it looks to check off as many as possible to match your clans" http://youtu.be/33o4C6SNess from about 5 min in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Animator 46 Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 6 minutes ago, beer 30 said: Should maybe stay inside for a few days until the world rights itself https://flic.kr/p/Jk75Cg Hahahahahahahah! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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