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[Dynasty] Todd Gurley (11 Viewers)
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packersfan
Footballguy
Woodhead outscored Gurley this week in PPR. Jones might too depending on what happens tonight.
packersfan
Footballguy
There's definitely a risk in benching him and the Rams remembering he's pretty damn good and he goes off on your bench.I'm going down with the ship.
I have no idea what to do with him. The production and usage says he's a Must Sit. The talent says Must Start.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Kid should be in the HOF already for averaging nearly 5 ypc playing for that sewer of an offense. Not a single other playmaker on that entire offense and that includes that offensive line.
dipandglide
Footballguy
The problem is the floor. He can single handedly lose you weeks if he's gonna score 4-5 points.There's definitely a risk in benching him and the Rams remembering he's pretty damn good and he goes off on your bench.I'm going down with the ship.
I have no idea what to do with him. The production and usage says he's a Must Sit. The talent says Must Start.
packersfan
Footballguy
Here's a new wrinkle. Rams just fired offensive coordinator Frank Cignetti. Could this mean a renewed emphasis on Gurley now?
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
Per schefter:
Rams have made change at offensive coordinator. Rob Boras is now new play caller
Rams have made change at offensive coordinator. Rob Boras is now new play caller
dipandglide
Footballguy
Hmmm. Interesting.
Sebowski
Footballguy
All I did was raise a concern that he was only producing weekly based on big runs and that it is hard to count on big runs. Meanwhile everyone else in here was saying he's RB1 ROS. That his talent will always break a big run so not to worry about stuffing the line of scrimmage, Game-flow, or all his 1 and 2 yard runs. Pretty funny to read all the posts in here after my post. Bunch of short-sighted fanboys.
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Grahamburn
Footballguy
Tampa's run defense is first in the NFL in yards per attempt at 3.5, 7th in yards per game, and their longest run against is 21 yards (also best in the NFL).
packersfan
Footballguy
F it. I'm gonna start him for sure now. Lions' D is playing better but they're not a great team so hopefully game is close and new coordinator comes in with a plan to feature their best player.
ha, the ultimate tease... i bet wednesday we get some committment to the running game quotes or something to that effect.
dipandglide
Footballguy
Sebowski
Footballguy
I don't really have any other options. Need one of Duke, Langford, Hyde, and Gurley (ppr). Hoping that is a much tougher decision for the next 5 years, and feel good about that, but I'm a little worried about the rest of the way here. Let's just keep those life vests nearby, bucky
Madden Curse
Footballguy
Heartbreaking to see a dynamo like this stuck in a terrible situation. The Rams already did this to Steven Jackson and now they're doing it to Todd Gurley.
SproutDaddy
Footballguy
That's not necessarily true. In recent memory I can remember Gore and Tomlinson off the top of my head tearing it up early on without either. I like Gurley, but you fan boys are just making excuses.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
You mean like the 3.6 ypc Tomlinson had his rookie year or the 11 games he had with less than 3.6 ypc.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
The story on Tomlinson was he just hit the rookie wall on a good team, the Rams have a whole other set of problems.
SproutDaddy
Footballguy
I said early on, not rookie year. Still, I drafted him as my rb1 his rookie year and made it to the playoffs, so the production was there.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Kinda unfair to compare Gurleys rookie year to LTs 2nd or 3rd dont you think? Gurleys production was there too until recently. LT was a compiler that rookie year, he got over 300 carries, largely due to San Diegos defense keeping them in games. The most they lost by was 10 points that year. Gurleys got the perfect storm of not only the offensive cast being incredibly bad but the defense sucking as well.
georg013
Footballguy
He is grasping at straws with his argument. Anyone with half of a brain knows their situations are not similar. Besides, Gurley doesnt suck. Last I checked he was averaging 4+ per carry. Including last week's dismal offensive showing. It has been mainly chill in here so the haters like to stir things up and attention seek.
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packersfan
Footballguy
If he gets 15-20 touches (which he should) and is used in the passing game (which he should be), I think he's a lock for 10+ points as his floor in PPR. A grade school kid playing Madden for the first time could figure this out.
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packersfan
Footballguy
It's really sad this has to be emphasized when Gurley is your running back.Squintz82 said:
Biabreakable
Footballguy
I guess Rob Boras has a history of coaching offensive line and tight ends. He has done a terrific job thus far.
The roster construction by snead and Fisher has mostly been used to build the defense. They have drafted several RB with high draft picks as well with one premium pick at the offensive line that hasn't really panned out as they hoped yet. Austin is a good player but the other WR picks haven't really worked out.
Part of the reason for the roster construction was based on them having Bradford at QB.
While the philosophy of Fisher should help Gurley to get a lot of opportunity, it also comes with a poor supporting cast around him and not very good offensive coaching to develop QB or WR.
The roster construction by snead and Fisher has mostly been used to build the defense. They have drafted several RB with high draft picks as well with one premium pick at the offensive line that hasn't really panned out as they hoped yet. Austin is a good player but the other WR picks haven't really worked out.
Part of the reason for the roster construction was based on them having Bradford at QB.
While the philosophy of Fisher should help Gurley to get a lot of opportunity, it also comes with a poor supporting cast around him and not very good offensive coaching to develop QB or WR.
Apple Juice
Footballguy
The Rams can't convert on third down right now. It's not even that they're insisting on passing it, it's that they aren't running many plays because Foles and those receivers are freaking awful. Teams are not afraid of the pass at all and are loading everybody up to stop one player.
I think the offensive line problems wouldn't completely hold down Gurley if Foles could make defenses honest whatsoever but he hasn't.
I think the offensive line problems wouldn't completely hold down Gurley if Foles could make defenses honest whatsoever but he hasn't.
Moonshine
Footballguy
Does the coaching change and quote above sway anyone's opinion on his startability?
I'm still leaning towards benching him against a stout Lions run D (starting Peterson and Rawls at RB instead, and flexing Amendola), but this newfound promise to be committed to the run gives me major pause.
I'm still leaning towards benching him against a stout Lions run D (starting Peterson and Rawls at RB instead, and flexing Amendola), but this newfound promise to be committed to the run gives me major pause.
OC is saying the right things at his presser today:
http://www.ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?5,619594,619594
http://www.ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?5,619594,619594
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
30 touches
220 YFS
3 TDs
220 YFS
3 TDs
packersfan
Footballguy
That would certainly make up for the last two weeks.
He should be locked into 15-20 touches this week and if that's the case I think he has a double-digit point floor in PPR (assuming he's used in the passing game like he should be) regardless of the matchup. If the game is close and they go Full Gurley we've certainly seen him go off against good defenses and ones loading up trying to stop him. I'm probably feeling more confident than I should given the last two weeks but he's locked into my starting lineup this week.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Locked into my lineup for this week, and likely next week as well. Excited to see if the new OC and renewed commitment to get him the ball makes a difference.
It should be noted I am on a bye this week, but I definitely think this is the bounce back week.
It should be noted I am on a bye this week, but I definitely think this is the bounce back week.
to be honest i haven't had a reason to review pregame coaches comments to check for gurley comments until this week.... so did the rams coaches say the same thing about getting gurley the ball more prior to last weeks game too?
That would certainly make up for the last two weeks.
He should be locked into 15-20 touches this week and if that's the case I think he has a double-digit point floor in PPR (assuming he's used in the passing game like he should be) regardless of the matchup. If the game is close and they go Full Gurley we've certainly seen him go off against good defenses and ones loading up trying to stop him. I'm probably feeling more confident than I should given the last two weeks but he's locked into my starting lineup this week.
packersfan
Footballguy
Not that I saw. I think most people just assumed they wouldn't be so amazingly stupid and remove him from the game plan two weeks in a row.to be honest i haven't had a reason to review pregame coaches comments to check for gurley comments until this week.... so did the rams coaches say the same thing about getting gurley the ball more prior to last weeks game too?
That would certainly make up for the last two weeks.
He should be locked into 15-20 touches this week and if that's the case I think he has a double-digit point floor in PPR (assuming he's used in the passing game like he should be) regardless of the matchup. If the game is close and they go Full Gurley we've certainly seen him go off against good defenses and ones loading up trying to stop him. I'm probably feeling more confident than I should given the last two weeks but he's locked into my starting lineup this week.
Whoops.
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Sarlakticacid
Footballguy
Go Full Gurley!
Love it
Love it
Sarlakticacid
Footballguy
Choosing between R Mathews and the Full Gurley this week
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
He's good
comfortably numb
Footballguy
There you guys go!
Hopefully most of you started him.
Hopefully most of you started him.
