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You’re struggling to understand my “regretting replying to you” part I see. It’s cool - I’m 100% certain I couldn’t care less about what you think I’m capable of.
Three common opponents:
Other than Goff or maybe Donald - which single player loss for the Rams would move the line?
Nobody (if more than one OL were out it could impact the spread). Their offensive success is largely due to an elite OL and McVay being a genius. Plus, we have a sample of both Goff and Gurley being horrific in systems other than McVay's.
Then basically what you're saying is outside of the QB, no players actually matter. Does that sound like a reasonable position?Nobody (if more than one OL were out it could impact the spread). Their offensive success is largely due to an elite OL and McVay being a genius. Plus, we have a sample of both Goff and Gurley being horrific in systems other than McVay's.
Professional bettors bet numbers, not names. If Gurley truly had a value over his replacement RB, the market would shift and that never happened in the two games he was out.
I don't care what people think of me or how I present my opinion, but shouldn't someone as "great" as Gurley add some value to his team - even if it's only an extra FG per game? That's simply not the case.
Blake Bortles has more marginal value over his replacement than Gurley does his.
I think he's saying that for the Rams specifically, and with the personnel they have.
What overall point don't you agree with? Vegas is a lot smarter than I am and they have concluded he literally has no value over his replacement. That means he is vastly overrated. Other RBs like Barkley and Elliot will move a line. That additional fact means he can't be the best RB in the league.
I like how you take the Vegas information for a single game and inflate that to mean that he cannot be the best player in the league and is vastly overrated. That's cute.
my Vegas information is not for a single game. Everything in your post is wrong because you made a terrible assumption.
Do you think if Gurley tore his ACL during the preseason, the Rams Win Over-Under line would be adjusted at all?
Well, rereading this ####show, I now see that you are on a fantasy football board talking about players value in relation to how they affect gambling outcomes. The isn't a 1:1 correlation between the two, so it really doesn't matter that the vast majority of the fantasy football world has Gurley pegged as the #1 RB in the league while the gambling world is run by a complete different set of rules.
That's a good question. I would think some because of the public perception of a player like Gurley, but it wouldn't be significant - perhaps half a game.
Yes, Gurley is the benefactor of an incredible OL and system. RBs are overrated when talking about real football (or gambling). Not really sure why that triggers people so easily.
Well, you are badmouthing a player on a fantasy football website. I think you need to be more mindful of your audience.
What are you talking about? I told people to pick up CJ Anderson in Gurley's absence and he helped win a lot of crucial fantasy playoff matchups. Having a basic understanding of a team's strengths playing the actual game of football goes a long way in winning fantasy football.
More importantly he was guessing that the line wouldn’t move if Gurley was out this week. There is no such in or out line this week as he’s in. The Only game there was, was the 49er game where he was expected to play and sat at the last minute. And this line didn’t move is his case. But Gurleys impact on that game wasn’t necessary for them to win or effect the final score. In the Gurley in line Vegas could’ve very easily been factoring in an early lead in that late season game and Gurly getting sat. The point is who knows what factored in to Vegas is lines pre-and post Gurley for that specific game. One theory could be what he is proposing, but there are others.
I literally posted a quote from one bookmaker who said RBs have no value. It's amazing how much time you spent making up stuff here just to try to discredit my opinion.
You didn't present it as an opinion. You presented it as a fact, and implied that only a moron could disagree with this gospel truth.tjnc09 said:
There’s an advantage to having the opponent’s Defense prepare all week for Gurley, when he’s actually gimpy/change-of-pace. Call it cheating or call it gamesmanship, the NFL does zilch about fraudulating the injury report (unless it’s the Patriots, of course).
for sure. I would not be surprised at all if the Pats didn't even sell out to stop Gurley in preparation for this game, knowing he was probably injured
Actually felt much more like Mike Martz 2.0. Belichick took McVay to the woodshed and McVay bought his own hype and went away from what got us here. Gurley.
Gurley failed on the biggest stages of his career. You, @Bucky86, and the whole world got to see how overrated he is two weeks in a row.
The Martz loss was one of the biggest SB failures ever. Right there with the Falcons and Seattle. All 3 should have won but failed at coaching. However the Rams back then were such a powerhouse that it took extra effort to suck so bad as to lose to a weak Patriots team.
The excuses people make for this guy are amazing. He ran quite well against Dallas.
I seriously question the underlined.
It's serious road kill. Should be within a month that we get the real answer as to what his injury is.
Poor coaching and ability to adjust to what is coming at ya. Game was too big for Goff and McVay at this point in their careers
