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Darrin Reaves - RB - Carolina Panthers - UDFA (1 Viewer)
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
If DeAngelo is playing, he'll get nearly everything, no? Or is he limited in some way or something like that?
lardonastick
Footballguy
JFS171
Footballguy
DW still coming back from injury. If good to go, he's probably set to get a lot.
Couple things here:
1) Team still likes Whittaker a lot and had deemed him week-to-week after pulling his quad in the Detroit game. Not sure if he'll be back or not, or if he'd be ahead of Reaves. He was ahead of Reaves following the preseason, however.
2) Poole should know a lot of the system already as he spent 2012 preseason with Carolina, and was set to make the team before being injured late in the preseason. A lot of fans speculated he was IR'd to protect his rights instead of exposing him to waivers. Has bounced around the league since then, but could transition quickly if he is needed.
I don't know what this says about DW or Seastrunk, or both. My gut tells me DW may still not be right and they needed a back on the PS they could pull up and plug in if needed (if Whittaker isn't good to go), even if Poole wasn't the pure talent of the one they cut.
Couple things here:
1) Team still likes Whittaker a lot and had deemed him week-to-week after pulling his quad in the Detroit game. Not sure if he'll be back or not, or if he'd be ahead of Reaves. He was ahead of Reaves following the preseason, however.
2) Poole should know a lot of the system already as he spent 2012 preseason with Carolina, and was set to make the team before being injured late in the preseason. A lot of fans speculated he was IR'd to protect his rights instead of exposing him to waivers. Has bounced around the league since then, but could transition quickly if he is needed.
I don't know what this says about DW or Seastrunk, or both. My gut tells me DW may still not be right and they needed a back on the PS they could pull up and plug in if needed (if Whittaker isn't good to go), even if Poole wasn't the pure talent of the one they cut.
NCCommish
Footballguy
I liked Poole and as you say he should know the system well enough to step in if need be. I think people are forgetting Brockel. We have been here before. And a fullback named Brad Hoover, a fan favorite, came out of nowhere to run for over a 100 yards and catch for over 40. Killed GB that day. Richie isn't quite Hoov but he's close.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
We also cannot forget that this Panthers coaching staff has been utterly clueless for years when it comes to using their RBs correctly. Hell, they don't use DeAngelo or Stewart enough when one or either is healthy, so I doubt if this Reaves guy got the call, they'll suddenly decide to wise up and give him a lot of touches. They simply cannot be trusted. As always, avoid Carolina RBs like the plague.
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JFS171
Footballguy
I could buy that with Brockel if he had ever carried the ball.
Hoover was an all-state RB in HS and an all-conference RB in college at Western Carolina. Then he bulked up to play FB in the league.
To my knowledge, Brockel has never played anything outside of TE at Boise State and has played FB in the pros.
Hoover was an all-state RB in HS and an all-conference RB in college at Western Carolina. Then he bulked up to play FB in the league.
To my knowledge, Brockel has never played anything outside of TE at Boise State and has played FB in the pros.
NCCommish
Footballguy
But he does have a 4.0 per carry average in the NFL. Sure the sample size is small. 3 carries but still. Really just reminding people he is out there. He may take the Tolbert role this week and going forward. Guy is 250 and should be good around the end zone.
JFS171
Footballguy
Nick Goings - who will forever be remembered in Panthers lore.
Goings was a hybrid type jack of all trades though... and that OL he ran behind was utterly nasty.
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
On board in deep redraft, like what I saw and don't consider his competition to be all that imposing.
NCCommish
Footballguy
Kind of
If Gaffney was never injured Fozzy likely wasn't even picked up. If Reaves was healthy he might of just made the 53 over Fozzy.
Reaves got a ton of work with the 1st team in OTAs and early camp with Gaffney in school and D will and J Stew being the often injured vets. The staff seemed to love him.
Also, Cam in his presser today when asked about the RB scarcity.... "Don't be so down, Baby D is ready"
some of his metric numbers are also interesting
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SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Xue
Footballguy
That height and weight are way wrong.
https://lifesyourcupfb.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/reaves-vs-mjd.png
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
I watched a video this weekend where he said as a kid he was considered special needs.
JFS171
Footballguy
So we're going to go off of OTAs in July instead of camp in August and three weeks of the season thus far?
As a fan, I hope they put the best guy on the field that can get the job done. Gaffney never got a shot cause he got hurt on the first day - we have no idea where he would have settled out. Reaves got a ton of work as a result, likely because the team wanted to see if the UDFA was worth taking to camp or if they should keep shopping... that's the point of OTAs.
I'm sorry, but I can't knock Whittaker because Reaves got reps in July that then went to Whittaker in August, or that Reaves was exposed to waivers due to injury (subsequently signed to the practice squad) while the team felt strongly enough about Whittaker to keep him on the 53.
If Whittaker is healthy, my bet is he's still ahead of Reaves... he certainly has been every step of the way thus far.
I never meant to imply a knock on FozzySo we're going to go off of OTAs in July instead of camp in August and three weeks of the season thus far?
As a fan, I hope they put the best guy on the field that can get the job done. Gaffney never got a shot cause he got hurt on the first day - we have no idea where he would have settled out. Reaves got a ton of work as a result, likely because the team wanted to see if the UDFA was worth taking to camp or if they should keep shopping... that's the point of OTAs.
I'm sorry, but I can't knock Whittaker because Reaves got reps in July that then went to Whittaker in August, or that Reaves was exposed to waivers due to injury (subsequently signed to the practice squad) while the team felt strongly enough about Whittaker to keep him on the 53.
If Whittaker is healthy, my bet is he's still ahead of Reaves... he certainly has been every step of the way thus far.
I just wanted to clarify that you shouldn't necessarily imply Reaves < Fozzy when Reaves was held out because of injury.
Reaves missed most of camp and still made the practice squad. As a UDFA you don't hear about that too much.
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NCCommish
Footballguy
I am not sure I get all the Gaffney love I see. Dude is slow. He got run down from behind by JAGs in college. At best he may have been a good fullback at this level.So we're going to go off of OTAs in July instead of camp in August and three weeks of the season thus far?
As a fan, I hope they put the best guy on the field that can get the job done. Gaffney never got a shot cause he got hurt on the first day - we have no idea where he would have settled out. Reaves got a ton of work as a result, likely because the team wanted to see if the UDFA was worth taking to camp or if they should keep shopping... that's the point of OTAs.
I'm sorry, but I can't knock Whittaker because Reaves got reps in July that then went to Whittaker in August, or that Reaves was exposed to waivers due to injury (subsequently signed to the practice squad) while the team felt strongly enough about Whittaker to keep him on the 53.
If Whittaker is healthy, my bet is he's still ahead of Reaves... he certainly has been every step of the way thus far.
MCguidance
Footballguy
Next man up.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
To recap..
Tolbert - out until week 13
Stewart - knee sprain but did somehow turn in a limited practice late this week, still doubt he'll be good to go anytime soon
Williams - sprained ankle, left stadium in a walking boot, mri scheduled tomorrow, likely out at least 1 week
Fozzy - went down week 2 with a quad injury, put in exactly zero practice time this week, is considered week to week
Poole - 1 touch today and fumbled on that 1 touch
I didn't get a chance to catch the game but the box score says 2.2YPC. It also shows that he had 5 targets on the day (secured 3 for 11 yards). I'm hearing Anderson missed him on one of those targets where he was wide open. Anyway, how do you guys feel about flexing him vs. CHI in PPR? Seems like he's going to at the very least be involved in the passing game and volume should be there.
Tolbert - out until week 13
Stewart - knee sprain but did somehow turn in a limited practice late this week, still doubt he'll be good to go anytime soon
Williams - sprained ankle, left stadium in a walking boot, mri scheduled tomorrow, likely out at least 1 week
Fozzy - went down week 2 with a quad injury, put in exactly zero practice time this week, is considered week to week
Poole - 1 touch today and fumbled on that 1 touch
I didn't get a chance to catch the game but the box score says 2.2YPC. It also shows that he had 5 targets on the day (secured 3 for 11 yards). I'm hearing Anderson missed him on one of those targets where he was wide open. Anyway, how do you guys feel about flexing him vs. CHI in PPR? Seems like he's going to at the very least be involved in the passing game and volume should be there.
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SameSongNDance
Footballguy
I'm surprised more people aren't talking about a potential starting RB.
steveski
Footballguy
Because he had 12 carries for 26 yards. I grabbed him up about a week ago and dynasty so I'm hoping for the best, but it's definitely a long shot. In redraft, he's not worth a bench spot until there's something to see, IMO.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
How does that make sense? We have dudes like Asiata who have been super relevant (he's actually been a RB1 in PPR) over the past 3 weeks due to opportunity alone. Reaves may have less experience and a worse offensive line but he's essentially infinitely more athletic. I don't see how is isn't worth a spot in 12-team leagues.
jtd13
Footballguy
The system is greatly in Asiata's favor, with Norv Turner and a good line there. Carolina has a terrible line. I still think he's worth a stash, I just don't think he has a very high chance of having an impact.
Donnybrook
Footballguy
I think it is because Minnesota had a running game before Asiata got the start. I can't say the same for Carolina.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Interesting pessimism. Maybe I'm completely underestimating the ineptitude of the CAR organization as a whole. Still, opportunity is always the first hurdle to fantasy success, regardless of position.
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steveski
Footballguy
Yes. Also, he needs both JStew and DWill to be out. It may happen this week but it might not happen ever again. If you have huge benches then sure, but there are plenty of other guys out there in my leagues that I'd rather take a flyer on over him.
Donnybrook
Footballguy
He does have a good match up playing the Bears but I would be very hesitant to start him and I am in a 16 team start 1-3 running back league. You would have to be pretty desperate in a 12 team redraft.
mnmplayer
Footballguy
Dropping knowledge on ya fellas. He's gotta be added. Has Asia ta taught us nothing? A FB with 4.8 speed and zero lateral ability scored 30 points last week.
jtd13
Footballguy
Hey not disagreeing with this at all. I like him. Unfortunately I dropped him instead of Denard to pick up Royal in both of my dynasties on Saturday
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
My benches are 10 deep in ffpc, so I was holding this guy everywhere in redraft regardless of desperation. Still, I'm giving this guy serious flex consideration in PPR this week. CHI is allowing an average of 14PPG to RBs in PPR. I'm going to have to rewatch the game before drawing any serious conclusions though. Any CAR homers care to comment on how he looked vs. BAL? Does the box score really tell the entire story? I see DWills was averaging 3.1 himself.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Interesting. Rivera also said this however..
Carolina Panthers @Panthers 1h
Rivera says Darrin Reaves is the #Panthers starting running back by default, but is confident in the rookie. "It's not too big for him."
cstu
Footballguy
I watched all his plays on Rewind and between the bad blocking and off target passes it was hard to evaluate him. He looks good enough - pretty quick, good hands, but nothing really stood out.
btemp
Footballguy
My concern with Reaves, and this is a little tinged by a longer-term dynasty perspective, is that even if he's good there's no way Williams, Stewart, and Tolbert don't get significant touches when somewhat healthy. Unless he performs amazing, which is unlikely given his measurables, there's no way the Panthers don't make use of the RBs they've invested a ridiculous sum into (and can't get out of for at least another year).
That's not to say he's not worth a start or two for those with RB problems, but unlike a Crowell or Taliaferro I don't see any future for him.
That's not to say he's not worth a start or two for those with RB problems, but unlike a Crowell or Taliaferro I don't see any future for him.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
What's negative about his measurables? Everything aside from long speed is above average.
Also..
pantherclub
Footballguy
Is it too early to start dreaming about Todd Gurley? Looking at the last 3 or so drafts and running backs arent going that high anymore. I think the panthers will finish 9-7ish and still have a shot of getting him. Gurley or a left tackle.
jtd13
Footballguy
I think the RBs not going high has more to do with no elite talent at RB in the drafts. I'd be very very surprised if a 9-7 team gets him from their original slot. Also, the panthers might have enough money tied up in RB by now.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Yeah. Investing more premium resources in the RB position is what the Panthers need to succeed.
GoodLloydHaveMercy
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