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WR A.J. Green, ARZ (3 Viewers)

The Frankman said:
Oh yeah it happens a lot. You have a severe injury in college that heals but never feels 100%, so when you move a certain way you're susceptible to tweaking it or aggravating it.
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This happened to me.  When I was in high school I hurt my elbow and even now (30 years later), my right elbow is much more sensitive than my left when touched in the same place as the injury.

 
If he returned to the game I would think it was nothing serious. I looked at the injury play several times and it doesn't even look like he tweaked anything or was in an awkward position on the play. His right leg just flies up and then he lands on the ground on his lower back reaching for his left hamstring. Why reach for a hamstring when your groin was hurt? However, the play before this or I should say his catch before this he looked like he might have strained the groin pushing against LB #54 Thompson on the tackle / take down. Maybe it finally gave out on the next play when he launched off the line at full speed. Maybe the groin pulled when his back hit the ground?

Bottom line: I don't think we are getting the full story. Something doesn't add up. He might be fine, but as Green owner a little worried here.

 
A.J. Green - WR -  Bengals

A.J. Green caught 5-of-7 targets for 76 yards and a touchdown in the Bengals' Week 8 win over the Bucs.

Green went over the top of Bucs RCB Carlton Davis on his 17-yard score. Green left the game late with a toe injury, however, having appeared to jam the toe or potentially suffer a form of turf toe. His injury will be monitoring during Cincinnati's Week 9 bye.

Oct 28 - 4:35 PM
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Right before the game winning field goal the trainers were looking at his bare foot.  It looked like they were examining the big toe side about mid-foot.  That's a bit scary...  Hope he's OK.

 
kittenmittens said:
Right before the game winning field goal the trainers were looking at his bare foot.  It looked like they were examining the big toe side about mid-foot.  That's a bit scary...  Hope he's OK.
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Ah oh. Turf toe. Very bad if so. 

 
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Bayhawks said:
Dr. Dan would be better suited to address this, but they looked to be examining the top of his foot.  I thought that turf toe was usually an issue with the bottom of the foot/toes?
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I'm pretty suited.  You don't extend a player's tie on the sideline without concern for turf toe. And he has a history of it

 
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flapgreen said:
I'm pretty suited.  You don't extend a player's tie on the sideline without concern for turf toe. And he has a history of it
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I wasn't implying that you weren't, just that Dr. Dan is more suited than I am to discuss my question.  Since you're answering though, am I mistaken that turf toe is an injury to the bottom of the foot/toe?

 
Bayhawks said:
I wasn't implying that you weren't, just that Dr. Dan is more suited than I am to discuss my question.  Since you're answering though, am I mistaken that turf toe is an injury to the bottom of the foot/toe?
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I didn't think you were. Yes, it affects the structures on the undersurface of the joint closest to the foot of the big toe. Most common on football players and affects your ability to push off. Extremely painful and has ended many career. Deon Sanders is one I can think of.  As with most injuries, there's different levels of severity.  Hopefully, AJ's isn't too severe. I'm a big fan of his. 

 
Bfrahm3 said:
Yeah Turf toe would suck, he did have a problem with it a couple years ago
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From what I can find, his 2014 injury was originally reported as a “turf-toe like” injury.  It was then reported to be a ligament injury, and not turf toe.  He missed week 2 that year with that injury (unexpected scratch that week-maybe occurred in warm ups?), then played in week 3-6 catches for 103 yards.  Week 4 was a bye, then he had 5 for 81 & a TD in week 5 (against D Revis, when Revis island was a thing).  He missed weeks 6,7,& 8 b/c of a practice re-aggravation of the toe injury.  He returned in week 9, and averaged 5.7 catches, 80.8 rec yards, and .44TD per game over the last 9 games.  11.44 FF PPG in standard, 17.14 PPG in PPR.  

Also reporting today that the injury “doesn’t appear to be serious.”

 
Bayhawks said:
From what I can find, his 2014 injury was originally reported as a “turf-toe like” injury.  It was then reported to be a ligament injury, and not turf toe.  He missed week 2 that year with that injury (unexpected scratch that week-maybe occurred in warm ups?), then played in week 3-6 catches for 103 yards.  Week 4 was a bye, then he had 5 for 81 & a TD in week 5 (against D Revis, when Revis island was a thing).  He missed weeks 6,7,& 8 b/c of a practice re-aggravation of the toe injury.  He returned in week 9, and averaged 5.7 catches, 80.8 rec yards, and .44TD per game over the last 9 games.  11.44 FF PPG in standard, 17.14 PPG in PPR.  

Also reporting today that the injury “doesn’t appear to be serious.”
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So wasn’t technically turf toe but “started” as it. I definitely wasn’t saying it’s a terrible injury but as your research shows it could be something similar where he plays a couple weeks and it’s fone and then he’s out for a couple. Glad to hear it hopefully isn’t serious

 
Bfrahm3 said:
So wasn’t technically turf toe but “started” as it. I definitely wasn’t saying it’s a terrible injury but as your research shows it could be something similar where he plays a couple weeks and it’s fone and then he’s out for a couple. Glad to hear it hopefully isn’t serious
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A turf toe injury involves the ligament. Depending on the severity, further tissues and the bone could be involved. It's semantics at times based on who's classifying it. Could've meant "turf toe like" because all of the structures weren't involved but it's obvious they brought him back too quick. Really hard to say and they don't always release all the details.  Hopefully he just aggravated a little this time and it's no big deal. 

 
flapgreen said:
A turf toe injury involves the ligament. Depending on the severity, further tissues and the bone could be involved. It's semantics at times based on who's classifying it. Could've meant "turf toe like" because all of the structures weren't involved but it's obvious they brought him back too quick. Really hard to say and they don't always release all the details.  Hopefully he just aggravated a little this time and it's no big deal. 
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I don’t know enough about medicine/physical therapy, etc to comment on that.  Just passing along what I found.

 
Welp

#Bengals star WR AJ Green was slated to visit foot specialist Dr. Robert Anderson in Green Bay during the bye, sources say, as his toe swelled up. Clarity is coming soon, with everything — day-to-day, week-to-week, surgery — on the table for Green. Big appointment.
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-from Rapaport

 
I traded him after week 3 in a big trade involving multiple players, but I didn't want this for the guy. I hope he just needs a couple weeks to heal up. 

 
ESPN's Adam Schefter reports A.J. Green (toe) is expected to miss at least "some games."

And that's in a best-case scenario. Green is consulting with foot specialist Dr. Robert Anderson to determine whether he needs surgery, which of course would knock out Green for more than "some games," and potentially threaten the rest of his season. The Bengals already lost Tyler Eifert (ankle) for the year, while John Ross (groin) has been unable to keep himself off the shelf.

Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter 

Nov 4 - 11:23 AM
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The lesson here is that you don't listen to what anyone says about any injury.  Listen you your eyes.  I should have traded Green in both redraft and dynasty  the second I saw that shoe off on the sideline. 

 
Welp there goes 1 of my two bedrocks (Nuk the other). Desperately need to hit the trade wire to try and replace that production; have D.J. Moore, DeVante Parker and Tre'Quan Smith but I doubt they can morph into the consistent threat AJ is.

 
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kittenmittens said:
The lesson here is that you don't listen to what anyone says about any injury.  Listen you your eyes.  I should have traded Green in both redraft and dynasty  the second I saw that shoe off on the sideline. 
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Thought the exact same thing as soon as I saw that injury

 
Josh Malone is going to get a solid look. 

Tate is depth.  You don't go from practice squad to starting lineup.  If the team likes you that much you don't get exposed to waivers... 

 
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kittenmittens said:
Josh Malone is going to get a solid look. 

Tate is depth.  You don't go from practice squad to starting lineup.  If the team likes you that much you don't get exposed to waivers... 
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it's mostly a numbers game. he was on the active roster for the first 6 weeks of the season.

that said, i think Malone or Core should get the bump. the only opportunity for Tate right now might be in the red zone because of his size, catch radius, and hands. they don't have a reliable red zone target with Green out. Mixon will get a ton of work.

 
saintfool said:
it's mostly a numbers game. he was on the active roster for the first 6 weeks of the season.

that said, i think Malone or Core should get the bump. the only opportunity for Tate right now might be in the red zone because of his size, catch radius, and hands. they don't have a reliable red zone target with Green out. Mixon will get a ton of work.
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Agreed. Was just saying if they liked him more than Core or Malone they probably just cut one of those two (Core) to avoid losing Tate to another team. 

 
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NFL Network's Ian Rapoport confirms A.J. Green (toe) will likely miss Week 11 against the Ravens.

Green has already been ruled out for Sunday's game with New Orleans. While Rapoport conceded there's "a chance" Green could gut it out in Week 11, the more likely scenario is that he takes another week to get healthy. Tyler Boyd will be tasked with leading the Bengals' receiving corps throughout Green's absence.

Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter 

Nov 11 - 10:27 AM
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A.J. Green - WR -  Bengals

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports a December return is looking "increasingly likely" for A.J. Green.

Green is out at least the next two weeks, so this doesn't come as a surprise. He would miss three games if he isn't back this month. It's a huge concern for a Bengals team on the playoff fringes. Tyler Boyd and C.J. Uzomah are going to have featured roles until Green returns.

Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter 

Nov 11 - 12:40 PM
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