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He's a fourth round rookie pick, so "destroying his career" is a relative proposition. The Bengals are a lock for a top 3 pick in what is supposedly a strong QB class - what else should they do? They need to see if Finley is any good so that they can decide whether their best option it taking a QB or trading the pick for a major haul. Sure it's not a great situation but that's the whole reason why this situation even exists. Any rookie QB stepping in next year would be in a similar situation.Shutout said:
The above bolded seems to be the general sentiment within this thread and as this thread consists of AJ Green owners I gotta say I don't get it.
The Bengals are so bad, and so far away from contention, that locking up a fan favorite, face of the franchise guy seems pretty easy to justify. It's about the best they can offer fans at this juncture.
Yeah, I totally get it from the standpoint of the Cincinnati Bengals, but why would Green want to continue to play on such a bad team?
Speaking as a Dolphins fan, hope for the future is the best thing that a team can offer its fans. Keeping a breaking down 31 year old WR on a team with no QB, no OL, and no imminent hope to even make the playoffs does not go as far in doing that as an extra first round pick would. That said, maybe nobody offered one.
I think maybe the best bet for the Bengals right now is to let green help their young starter out with a reliable target, and then let him walk in the off-season.
I can buy the draft pick angle.
Agree to disagree in an argument that is completely irrelevant now that the deadline is over anyway. But, I think the value of a first round pick (if there was one offered) far outweighs the value he provides to a longshot 4th round QB prospect that in all likelihood will be replaced in April.
I’m not sure what you’re disagreeing with. I never talked about a trade or a first round pick. I have no idea what you’re referring to there.
My bad - this is what I was referencing - "I think maybe the best bet for the Bengals right now is to let green help their young starter out with a reliable target, and then let him walk in the off-season."
Short answer: Who knows.
Finley is a game manager and doesn't have the arm Dalton has. This is likely to be dink and dump city.
All good - I see a post above mentioning a 1st round pick, so maybe you saw that & thought it was part of my post.
FWIW, Green was asked again today (due to Dalton benching and no trade) and he said he wants to sign a long term deal in Cincy.
Yeah - saw that. That’s what I was basing my questions on. I just don’t get it. I’d think at 31, And given the state of the Bengals, he’d want to go the Randy Moss route & sign with a serious contender rather than stick around a team that’s highly unlikely to compete before he hangs up the cleats.
Finley is not the same type of QB. He's more accurate but has way less arm. Will he throw it farther than 10-15 yards?
I agree with this 100%. I've had him burning a hole in my bench since the draft. Now that its looking like he is ready to return in a week I'm going to dump him? eff that. I made it this far with him producing zero for me. I can wait another week or two to see how he gels with the new guy. Hopefully they have a good connection and he's a piece that boosts my team in the home stretch. If not, then I am where I am now.
It's not relative at all. Tom Brady would have never have been Tom Brady had he rode the bench and then traded to the Texans for that 2002 season but David Carr may have been more like a Matt Ryan or Philip rivers had he been inserted into a better situation. The point is this is a real person and real pro prospect. Good enough to be drafted and what round he was drafted in does not indicate his potential so it's not right to say it like "he's just a 4th round prospect".
He probably figures the Bengals are the best chance he has at a long term contract. He might be able to sign elsewhere, but will anyone else be willing to give him the term?
You’re just all over the place here.
I mean, they’re the Bengals, & they’re 0-7 so that’s technically true.
Apparently. Saints wanted him but seems weren't willing to part with the draft capital. Would anyone give any 31 yr old receiver more than 2 years guaranteed?
He got a 3-yr deal with $29 mil guaranteed which, for a receiver like him, is roughly 2 years guaranteed.
Lets see what the future holds; if what Green says is true, and HE held off contract negotiations, then its possible their reasoning is "We can get comp picks if he isn't productive, and if he is we can give him a long-term deal". Only problem is, Green wants that deal NOW. Bengals suck, I guess.
Lets see how much he wants to stay when they try to franchise tag him.
How it relates is that him saying he wants to stay in Cincy has no bearing on whether they were going to keep him there. He can't choose to stay if they trade him. Him saying he wants to stay is him trying to lock in a long term deal, and his tone will change if/when the Bengals show they don't want to give him one.
IIRC he’s specifically said he doesn’t want to be franchise tagged.
You are seeing what you want to see in this and following the safe and tried and true way that teams like the Bengals always do and it's a ridiculous failure that never breaks the cycle.
So what should they do? Let Dalton finish the season? Draft a rookie QB no matter what? Then what becomes of Finley? You’ve either “ruined him” or “buried him” - ultimately the same result.
14 team dynasty I'm in I got him for this:
