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Promoted from practice squad this afternoon, and active for tonight's game vs NYJ.

We can discuss him here.

Go.

 
James White is a healthy scratch. Patriots going in with Vereen, Bolden, and Gray. Bolden is a big special teams player for them so Gray seems like he should get a shot tonight at some carries. Could be interesting. I can definitely see 6-8 carries for Gray and maybe a shot from the GL.

Of course, knowing the Patriots, James Develin will get 20 carries.

 
He was been picked up in waivers in all of my dynasty leagues, early birds got him 3-4 hours ago and I picked him up in the few leagues that were left.

I have no idea what we have here. But anytime you have a player that has a shot down the road at being the lead back, you got to grab him, even if he is with the Patriots.

Don't expect to know much more after tonight's game then we know now. but I think in 3-4 weeks we will have a pretty idea of whether he is potential gold or fool's gold.

 
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Just snagged him. Hoping he has a big night so I can flip him before the Pats inevitably go with a random RB each week.

 
I missed out on him in my dynasty league, but, frankly, I'm relieved to be out of the Patriots RB business. Best of luck to everyone that did grab him (unless you're in my league). ;)

 
Thanks to this thread I was alerted to this and picked him up just now. Appreciate it guys!

Could end up being nothing but I think it is saying a lot that white is inactive and gray leapfrogged him from the practice squad. We know bolden has a big role on special teams so giving him the Ridley role to himself would be overworking him.

I suspect that bolden gets first crack but gray will get some chances and if he impresses they'll keep him in and his role could expand greatly moving forward.

Roll the dice gents!

 
Thanks to this thread I was alerted to this and picked him up just now. Appreciate it guys!

Could end up being nothing but I think it is saying a lot that white is inactive and gray leapfrogged him from the practice squad. We know bolden has a big role on special teams so giving him the Ridley role to himself would be overworking him.

I suspect that bolden gets first crack but gray will get some chances and if he impresses they'll keep him in and his role could expand greatly moving forward.

Roll the dice gents!
Its possible that gray will play st, and bold in will get more work at RB, but I agree he's a good stash and see.
 
If they are nursing a lead gray will be the guy though. And with their schedule I can see that happening a lot. Tonight isn't a good game to judge him off of. The fact that he is active and acting as the power back means he's a hold.

 
The guy in my league who broke the bank for Bolden and White has to be thrilled with Gray getting the work. :lol:
If "the work" is defined as 2 carries...
I wrote that an hour and a half ago, Columbo.
Apologies for that coming across as a personal slight. I simply meant despite Gray apparently being the next-in-line, they haven't used a next-in-line. They've used Vereen almost exlusively.

That was my only point.

 
It's classic NE game script stuff though - on a short week at that - I think it's inconclusive longer term.

 
rickyg said:
elbowrm said:
Vereen in now is telling, though.
It's a close game and vereen has their trust. He doesn't fumble.

If they were up by a few scores I bet gray would be in.
Maybe. Look I'd rather roster Gray than Bolden (already cut him in the one place I threw a dart), but I'm not expecting consistency from either one.

I play dynasty, and the only reason I even got involved with this mess was hoping a guy could flash enough to lock down a role in 2015. Maybe Gray still does that. Maybe Bolden does... who knows? If you're hoping for value you can trust this year, however... that gets tricky. I doubt many expected the Jets game to be one where the "big" back was barely involved. Not with how awful the Jets had been on the road.

 
A Jonas Gray thread....for those of you in 64-team leagues.

I think we officially have a thread on every offensive player in the NFL.

 
A Jonas Gray thread....for those of you in 64-team leagues.

I think we officially have a thread on every offensive player in the NFL.
These happen in part because people are so desperate for the next big thing that it seems they create threads for hype so others around the fantasy world have something to get excited about. This guy is a Patriots RB, what are people really expecting?

Coach Bill Belichick said the Patriots will "keep going with" Jonas Gray and see how he seizes the opportunity.
Gray is officially ahead of Brandon Bolden on the depth chart, as if Thursday night's usage didn't confirm it. It didn't mean a whole lot, as Gray saw just two touches compared to one for Bolden. But we'd expect Gray's role to grow as the "big back" complement to Shane Vereen, who handled 17 touches against the Jets. Gray may never be fantasy-useful, but he could see 8-10 weekly carries.
Not buying it, wxpect Boldin for 30 carries next week and Vereen to touch it 5 times and White to be active over Gray. Seems to be the mantra for the Patriots.

 
A Jonas Gray thread....for those of you in 64-team leagues.

I think we officially have a thread on every offensive player in the NFL.
These happen in part because people are so desperate for the next big thing that it seems they create threads for hype so others around the fantasy world have something to get excited about. This guy is a Patriots RB, what are people really expecting?



Coach Bill Belichick said the Patriots will "keep going with" Jonas Gray and see how he seizes the opportunity.

Gray is officially ahead of Brandon Bolden on the depth chart, as if Thursday night's usage didn't confirm it. It didn't mean a whole lot, as Gray saw just two touches compared to one for Bolden. But we'd expect Gray's role to grow as the "big back" complement to Shane Vereen, who handled 17 touches against the Jets. Gray may never be fantasy-useful, but he could see 8-10 weekly carries.

Not buying it, wxpect Boldin for 30 carries next week and Vereen to touch it 5 times and White to be active over Gray. Seems to be the mantra for the Patriots.
Dude, the pats ran the ball like14 or 15 times. Gray was the clear #2 over bolden. The. This news comes out. What more do you need to keep him on your bench as a flier for the coming weeks?

In response to the er guys who complained that there is a Jonas gray thread: Threads like this are what make the so great. No one needs a thread about rostering Gio Bernard. We all know that. Threads like this one whiff a lot but also lead to pickups that can win your season for you.

 
It's classic NE game script stuff though - on a short week at that - I think it's inconclusive longer term.
This. Jets are good against the run, suck against the pass. The Pats frequently implement fairly extreme game plans. It's a short week. Gray had zero game experience and no time to prepare for this one. And he still ran ahead of Bolden.

I looked at the preseason stats and decided Gray was worth a dynasty add prior to last night's game. Everyone other than Bolden got touches -- Gray (37), White (29), Ridley (19), Vereen (14), Bolden (3). I read that as the Patriots prefer not to use Bolden as a RB since he's certainly not someone they were protecting.

Now I'd say that if Gray can fill the Ridley role he will fill it -- though probably shipping some touches to Vereen. And he's definitely worth owning now given the 2015 contract situations of the RBs in NE. No guarantees, but he's a nice flier (and the price was right).

 
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Christopher Price , WEEI.com, Patriots Beat Writer

Jonas Gray is playing the role of Matt Forte this week in practice. #Patriots
isn't that the everydown back role? sounds like a good sign
It means he's on the scout team. Not sure how it's a good sign that he's playing for the "Bears" and not the Pats in practice...
ohhhh. i thought it meant the forte "role" in the patriots offense (i.e. everydown back)

 
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I look at it another way maybe that shows how talented he is. The fact that he is playing the forte roll shows they may see him as more of a complete back not just a power back. Must be more talented than James white and Bolden

 
But wouldn't that also mean he's not involved in the offensive game plan preparation? I think I'll hold Bolden and Gray this week and see how it shakes out.

 
Maybe I'm not understating. When the 1st team offense is on the field practicing, who are they practicing against? The first team defense, rt?

So how is this bad??

 
Maybe I'm not understating. When the 1st team offense is on the field practicing, who are they practicing against? The first team defense, rt?

So how is this bad??
It's not bad. What it says to me is that Belichick sees Gray as a guy that's capable of doing the things Forte can do, which is clearly a good thing. I don't think in any way it's indicative of how many carries/rec Gray will get vs the Bears (good or bad) but it's certainly indicative of his well rounded skill set. Obviously it's still a situation that needs time to play out, but based on the way things seem to be unfolding and various things I've read, I get the impression that the coaching staff thinks highly of Gray's skill set, attitude, and work ethic. Seems to have a legit shot at taking Ridley's role and even adding some receiving versatility to it, allowing Vereen to return to his specialist role as mainly a receiver, avoid the pounding, and stay healthy.After what happened with Blount last year, hard not be a little excited about Gray's potential in this scenario.

 
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I think the general thought process is that when you are playing the role of the opponents offense in practice that you are out there helping the defense prepare for the game and you are not considered a big part of the offensive game plan. Generally, this would suggest that Gray is not being prepared for a role in the offensive game plan this week.

 
Seems like a lot of folks are trying to interpret Belichick's moves. Have we learned nothing over the years?

Let it play out on Sunday (and beyond) and let's re-evaluate.

 
Seems like a lot of folks are trying to interpret Belichick's moves. Have we learned nothing over the years?

Let it play out on Sunday (and beyond) and let's re-evaluate.
Agreed. Gray could be nothing more than a solid practice squad guy who got a few carries due to circumstances. He could also turn into the Pats #1 RB including goal line work, be one of the best pick ups of the year, and go into 2015 as their starting RB. Roster him for a week or two, painless to drop if he doesn't pan out.

 
If they liked Bolden or White, they would have used them

I think Jonas is good for at least an audition as a contributor...

 
@erav31: @cpriceNFL if Jonas gray playing role of forte does that mean he's not involved in offensive gameplan this week?

@cpriceNFL: @erav31 No, that's in addition to his regular workload. Standard operating procedure for a lot of guys--scout team duty.

 
@erav31: @cpriceNFL if Jonas gray playing role of forte does that mean he's not involved in offensive gameplan this week?

@cpriceNFL: @erav31 No, that's in addition to his regular workload. Standard operating procedure for a lot of guys--scout team duty.
Nice find. Thank you.

 
@erav31: @cpriceNFL if Jonas gray playing role of forte does that mean he's not involved in offensive gameplan this week?

@cpriceNFL: @erav31 No, that's in addition to his regular workload. Standard operating procedure for a lot of guys--scout team duty.
Nice find. Thank you.
Nice find indeed. I specifically remember Edelman playing some sort of mobile QB on the scout team last season as well. Doesn't mean their role is getting decreased in the game plan or anything like that.

 
ESPN Boston's Mike Reiss confirms Jonas Gray now projects as the Patriots top "big back."
Gray is ahead of both Brandon Bolden and James White. The 2012 UDFA out of Notre Dame was expected to have a bigger role than the three carries he got in Week 7, but the Patriots got absolutely dominated in time of possession and didn't want to challenge the Jets' elite run defense. In different game-flow situations, Gray could have a real role. He's worth adding in deeper formats.
I was surprised that he went untouched in all of my ffpc leagues where the benches go 10 deep. Seems like there could be some value this year although it will obviously ebb and flow according to game flow much like Ridley's. Still seems odd that Bolden was rostered everywhere with this guy just chillin on the WW. :shrug:

 
Do we like Gray this week or will Billy strike again? Whats a stab in the dark stat line some will give him? Vereen questionable? I'll go 12/67/1

 
I wasted a claim on white when Ridley went down (I haveVereen). Night of the jets game I was on Daddy-duty and missed the news was a healthy scratch in favor of Gray. Of course the one guy in my league whose life is his wife, kids and Fantasy snagged him. Then he proceeds to drop him this week and another owner ahead of me on the waiver priority snags him. I hate the Pats RB's!

 








ESPN Boston's Mike Reiss confirms Jonas Gray now projects as the Patriots top "big back."

Gray is ahead of both Brandon Bolden and James White. The 2012 UDFA out of Notre Dame was expected to have a bigger role than the three carries he got in Week 7, but the Patriots got absolutely dominated in time of possession and didn't want to challenge the Jets' elite run defense. In different game-flow situations, Gray could have a real role. He's worth adding in deeper formats.

I was surprised that he went untouched in all of my ffpc leagues where the benches go 10 deep. Seems like there could be some value this year although it will obviously ebb and flow according to game flow much like Ridley's. Still seems odd that Bolden was rostered everywhere with this guy just chillin on the WW. :shrug:
People probably shied away from Gray since Bolden has the name recognition. Belichick has his gamesmanship, but once he finds his guy like Ridley, he has stuck with him as long as he doesn't put the ball on the ground. Who knows if that will be any of the guys, but Gray is worth a pre-emptive pickup IMO.
 

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