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Bill Cosby needs a new Media Manager (and to stop raping) (1 Viewer)

Woman files suit, claims Cosby molested her when she was 15 - 40 years ago.

Huth stated in the complaint that the "traumatic incident" left her psychologically and emotionally scarred, but only recently did she realize why she was so damaged. She said she "suffered damages that are substantial and continuing."
:rolleyes:
Why the eye roll? A sexual assault at 15 can absolutely cause ongoing self esteem and psychological issues. You'll often find that a girl abused sexually at that age exists in a prolonged adolescent state. The fact you minimize that fact with an eye roll is, well... :rolleyes:
I find it too convenient that she suddenly discovered the root of all of her angst - its a blatant attempt to circumvent the statute of limitations. If she was so traumatized by the incident, she should have known about it 40 years ago....this is nothing more than a money grab based on the recent publicity surrounding Cosby.

If she had filed this without all the attendant publicity surrounding Cosby, I think he would have settled it - as it is, nothing she says can really sully his reputation any further - so I think he fights it, and wins.
What is the root of your objection? Sympathy for the Coz?
rule of law.

don't really care about Coz - but I really don't like money grabs. If you are injured, the law gives you a certain amount of time to file a suit - it allows for the adjudication of the issues in a timely manner, where witnesses have their recollection fresher in their minds while testifying. When people try to circumvent those rules with, what I consider to be, flimsy excuses, I have no sympathy.

Not all excuses are "flimsy", but when I read that you "recently discovered" that your life is ####ed up because you gave the Coz a hand job 40 years ago - it lacks a bit of credulity.
All of the discussion up in here about Cosby's power/influence doesn't tell you why women are waiting all these years to come forward? And you have no sympathy? What a mensch you are.

 
Woman files suit, claims Cosby molested her when she was 15 - 40 years ago.

Huth stated in the complaint that the "traumatic incident" left her psychologically and emotionally scarred, but only recently did she realize why she was so damaged. She said she "suffered damages that are substantial and continuing."
:rolleyes:
Why the eye roll? A sexual assault at 15 can absolutely cause ongoing self esteem and psychological issues. You'll often find that a girl abused sexually at that age exists in a prolonged adolescent state. The fact you minimize that fact with an eye roll is, well... :rolleyes:
I find it too convenient that she suddenly discovered the root of all of her angst - its a blatant attempt to circumvent the statute of limitations. If she was so traumatized by the incident, she should have known about it 40 years ago....this is nothing more than a money grab based on the recent publicity surrounding Cosby.

If she had filed this without all the attendant publicity surrounding Cosby, I think he would have settled it - as it is, nothing she says can really sully his reputation any further - so I think he fights it, and wins.
What is the root of your objection? Sympathy for the Coz?
I wouldn't call it an objection, but I believe there's very little chance she'd be able to defeat a motion to dismiss on statute of limitations grounds. Repressed memory is, at best, highly contested by psychiatrists.

I'm not a plaintiff's lawyer, so I've never really been in the position of deciding whether to take a case with a very low probability of success (but a potential huge payoff in the unlikely event I win).
She may be hoping for some type of settlement to avoid the PR mess, especially if he actually did the things she suggested.

 
Woman files suit, claims Cosby molested her when she was 15 - 40 years ago.

Huth stated in the complaint that the "traumatic incident" left her psychologically and emotionally scarred, but only recently did she realize why she was so damaged. She said she "suffered damages that are substantial and continuing."
:rolleyes:
Why the eye roll? A sexual assault at 15 can absolutely cause ongoing self esteem and psychological issues. You'll often find that a girl abused sexually at that age exists in a prolonged adolescent state. The fact you minimize that fact with an eye roll is, well... :rolleyes:
I find it too convenient that she suddenly discovered the root of all of her angst - its a blatant attempt to circumvent the statute of limitations. If she was so traumatized by the incident, she should have known about it 40 years ago....this is nothing more than a money grab based on the recent publicity surrounding Cosby.

If she had filed this without all the attendant publicity surrounding Cosby, I think he would have settled it - as it is, nothing she says can really sully his reputation any further - so I think he fights it, and wins.
What is the root of your objection? Sympathy for the Coz?
I wouldn't call it an objection, but I believe there's very little chance she'd be able to defeat a motion to dismiss on statute of limitations grounds. Repressed memory is, at best, highly contested by psychiatrists.

I'm not a plaintiff's lawyer, so I've never really been in the position of deciding whether to take a case with a very low probability of success (but a potential huge payoff in the unlikely event I win).
She may be hoping for some type of settlement to avoid the PR mess, especially if he actually did the things she suggested.
Sure. The problem is that the limitations issue would probably be ruled on before any discovery even had to take place. Everyone understands that the most powerful settlement leverage against Cosby is to say "we're prepared to have 15 women take the stand to testify that you have a 'pattern or habit' of drugging and sexually assaulting women." Like the Marv Albert trial x 1000. If the case ever got to trial, Cosby would settle before it ever came to that, just as he did in 2006 (or was it 2007)?

I just don't see a way it gets that far.

 
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How can this dude's wife stand by him through all of this?
Shock and denial can do amazing things even when the evidence seems to be adding up...

That can also be said of the women who have waited years to come forth coupled with fear. You just can't believe it even though you know it wasn't a dream. And the door opened in Oct and these women decided it was time to tell their tales. Being a part of a group of "victims" is much easier to come forth than one by one where you are standing alone. "Fight" is always much easier and less scary in groups of like people.

It really isn't as easy as some of you guys think- logic is out the door in any abuse case so it really isn't fair to say why so and so took 20 years to come forth. Just like domestic abuse, why do they stay or go back? No logic. Also unless you read up on the law, you would have no clue about SOL and well you could become SOL if you wait too long. If it's a year as I think it is, you are quite busy trying to put yourself back together and maybe even wondering if you want to go on in life to imagine that time is ticking on your case. Finally, who is going to believe you? You will be put to shame and against BC???

This is something that effects you the rest of your life no matter how much counseling you go through and how well you seem to be doing/looking these days. It really is that devastating, and to boot it's from a celeb that you trusted and probably saw as a father figure.....

Also as for the wifey, I assume she is around his age of 77 and divorcing at that age is even less fun and more stressful than at younger ages so she may decide to just deal with it. She could get some good money by divorcing but sometimes the stress of it all is not worth it to an older person. She could be separated from him even in their own home and we wouldn't know this unless she talks.

 
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I ain't a fan of a statute of limitations on rape. Some wounds don't heal.
Especially now where we have DNA tests. Back when these women were victimized, there were only rape kits and you have to pretty much immediately go to get it done. And then it doesn't prove that said person did it unless you have a witness or good evidence like fingerprints off a glass that had a spiked cocktail in it type of thing.

DNA doesn't go away and so shouldn't the SOL on rape cases for you need to heal yourself first and that takes a lot of time to just become "ok" before you can be strong enough to tackle prosecuting the rapist.

 
Maybe she wants him to have to answer for why he did under oath?
He will never take the stand in that case.
If there's a trial and she calls him as a witness, he would be legally required to. It's not like a criminal case where he could just take the Fifth.

I realize that it probably isn't likely to ever get to trial.
If the criminal statute of limitations has already run, he doesn't have a Fifth Amendment privilege.

But if it hasn't run, or arguably hasn't run, he can plead the Fifth in a civil suit. He'd have to take the stand and plead the Fifth each time a question is asked (unlike in a criminal trial, in which he can avoid taking the stand).

In a civil case (unlike a criminal case), I think the jury would be allowed to make adverse inferences based on his refusal to answer questions by invoking the Fifth Amendment.

 
What does DNA testing do if the crime was never reported until years later? I can't see how that would ever be applied in an instance like this. Rape is very difficult to convict on even if the victim reports it immediately, I would have to imagine it would be nearly impossible several years after the fact.

I'm not defending Cosby, I hope that POS gets cancer tomorrow. Just pointing out I'm not sure the statue of limitations really matter here.

 
I ain't a fan of a statute of limitations on rape. Some wounds don't heal.
Especially now where we have DNA tests. Back when these women were victimized, there were only rape kits and you have to pretty much immediately go to get it done. And then it doesn't prove that said person did it unless you have a witness or good evidence like fingerprints off a glass that had a spiked cocktail in it type of thing.

DNA doesn't go away and so shouldn't the SOL on rape cases for you need to heal yourself first and that takes a lot of time to just become "ok" before you can be strong enough to tackle prosecuting the rapist.
wat

 
What does DNA testing do if the crime was never reported until years later? I can't see how that would ever be applied in an instance like this. Rape is very difficult to convict on even if the victim reports it immediately, I would have to imagine it would be nearly impossible several years after the fact.

I'm not defending Cosby, I hope that POS gets cancer tomorrow. Just pointing out I'm not sure the statue of limitations really matter here.
That is the sad truth. Too much 'logic' being applied to psychological trauma of such great magnitude. That's where educating the public needs to come in with what it's really like being victimized like this and the laws need to accompany that.

 
What does DNA testing do if the crime was never reported until years later? I can't see how that would ever be applied in an instance like this. Rape is very difficult to convict on even if the victim reports it immediately, I would have to imagine it would be nearly impossible several years after the fact.

I'm not defending Cosby, I hope that POS gets cancer tomorrow. Just pointing out I'm not sure the statue of limitations really matter here.
That is the sad truth. Too much 'logic' being applied to psychological trauma of such great magnitude. That's where educating the public needs to come in with what it's really like being victimized like this and the laws need to accompany that.
Statutes of limitations have nothing to do with the magnitude of the injury suffered.

HTH

 
Woman files suit, claims Cosby molested her when she was 15 - 40 years ago.

Huth stated in the complaint that the "traumatic incident" left her psychologically and emotionally scarred, but only recently did she realize why she was so damaged. She said she "suffered damages that are substantial and continuing."
:rolleyes:
Why the eye roll? A sexual assault at 15 can absolutely cause ongoing self esteem and psychological issues. You'll often find that a girl abused sexually at that age exists in a prolonged adolescent state. The fact you minimize that fact with an eye roll is, well... :rolleyes:
I find it too convenient that she suddenly discovered the root of all of her angst - its a blatant attempt to circumvent the statute of limitations. If she was so traumatized by the incident, she should have known about it 40 years ago....this is nothing more than a money grab based on the recent publicity surrounding Cosby.

If she had filed this without all the attendant publicity surrounding Cosby, I think he would have settled it - as it is, nothing she says can really sully his reputation any further - so I think he fights it, and wins.
What is the root of your objection? Sympathy for the Coz?
I wouldn't call it an objection, but I believe there's very little chance she'd be able to defeat a motion to dismiss on statute of limitations grounds. Repressed memory is, at best, highly contested by psychiatrists.

I'm not a plaintiff's lawyer, so I've never really been in the position of deciding whether to take a case with a very low probability of success (but a potential huge payoff in the unlikely event I win).
She may be hoping for some type of settlement to avoid the PR mess, especially if he actually did the things she suggested.
Sure. The problem is that the limitations issue would probably be ruled on before any discovery even had to take place. Everyone understands that the most powerful settlement leverage against Cosby is to say "we're prepared to have 15 women take the stand to testify that you have a 'pattern or habit' of drugging and sexually assaulting women." Like the Marv Albert trial x 1000. If the case ever got to trial, Cosby would settle before it ever came to that, just as he did in 2006 (or was it 2007)?

I just don't see a way it gets that far.
If I am Cosby, when they make that threat, I :shrug: - what are they going to say on the stand that has not already been said in the press? Cosby's has no fear of ruining his reputation any more than he already has.

 
Maybe she wants him to have to answer for why he did under oath?
He will never take the stand in that case.
If there's a trial and she calls him as a witness, he would be legally required to. It's not like a criminal case where he could just take the Fifth.

I realize that it probably isn't likely to ever get to trial.
If the criminal statute of limitations has already run, he doesn't have a Fifth Amendment privilege.

But if it hasn't run, or arguably hasn't run, he can plead the Fifth in a civil suit. He'd have to take the stand and plead the Fifth each time a question is asked (unlike in a criminal trial, in which he can avoid taking the stand).

In a civil case (unlike a criminal case), I think the jury would be allowed to make adverse inferences based on his refusal to answer questions by invoking the Fifth Amendment.
Yeah, I guess I was assuming he couldn't be criminally prosecuted, but you are right that it isn't completely clear-cut.

 
I found this interesting at the end of that piece:
On Thursday, the U.S. Navy revoked Cosby's title of honorary chief petty officer, saying the allegations conflicted with the military organization's beliefs.
Obviously the right thing to do, but ironic considering the military's poor handling of rape allegations historically.
 
So there had be a ton of people in the entertainment industry that knew Cosby drugged women or at least had heard consistent rumors, right?

 
Would not surprise me in the slightest if this was well-known in the entertainment community for years but rarely spoken of outside of those tight circles. He reached mainstream network icon status, became a piece of the establishment. Those people protect their own.

 
I know it is hitting the apex right now but I think this has been generally an open secret for quite some time. Just from the internet and stuff I've read or been somewhat aware of his reputation for a few years now. It has been written about before and everything, it just is now finding traction.

It's like the stories about Kirk Douglas being a violent rapist. The rumors and stories have always been there it is just that sometimes they find traction and sometimes people just ignore them.

 
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The rumors and stories have always been there it is just that sometimes they find traction and sometimes people just ignore them.
It's like earlier this year with the stories about the director of "Usual Suspects" and his proclivities. A lot of what I read was that everyone knew, and no one really cared.

It's also the rumors of what style Danny Thomas liked his eggs (don't Google if you're eating).

 
And we have another celebrity with allegations against Cosby.

Vanity Fair released this article by Beverly Johnson today...


Bill Cosby Drugged Me. This Is My Story.
By Beverly Johnson

Like most Americans, I spent the 60s, 70s, and part of the 80s in awe of Bill Cosby and his total domination of popular culture. He was the first African American to star in a dramatic television series, I Spy, a show my family in Buffalo, New York, always watched. Cosby cut a striking figure on-screen then. He was funny, smart, and even elegant—all those wonderful things many white Americans didn’t associate with people of color. In fact, as I thought of going public with what follows, a voice in my head kept whispering, “Black men have enough enemies out there already, they certainly don’t need someone like you, an African American with a familiar face and a famous name, fanning the flames.”

Imagine my joy in the mid-80s when an agent called to say Bill Cosby wanted me to audition for a role on the The Cosby Show. Cosby played an obstetrician, and he sometimes used models to portray pregnant women sitting in his office waiting room. It was a small part with one or two speaking lines at most, but I wanted in.

I was in the midst of an ugly custody battle for my only child. I needed a big break badly and appearing on The Cosby Show seemed like an excellent way of getting Hollywood’s attention. I’d appeared in one or two movies already, but my phone wasn’t exactly ringing off the hook with acting jobs.

Cosby’s handlers invited me to a taping of the show so I could get the lay of the land and an idea of what my role required. After the taping I met all the cast and then met with Cosby in his office to talk a bit about the hell I’d been through in my marriage. He appeared concerned and then asked what I wanted from my career going forward. He seemed genuinely interested in guiding me to the next level. I was on cloud nine.

I brought my daughter to the next taping I attended. Afterward, Cosby asked if I could meet him at his home that weekend to read for the part. My ex-husband had primary custody of my daughter at the time, and I usually spent my weekends with her. Cosby suggested I bring her along, which really reeled me in. He was the Jell-O Pudding man; like most kids, my daughter loved him. When my daughter and I visited Cosby’s New York brownstone, his staff served us a delicious brunch. Then he gave us a tour of the exceptional multi-level home.

Looking back, that first invite from Cosby to his home seems like part of a perfectly laid out plan, a way to make me feel secure with him at all times. It worked like a charm. Cosby suggested I come back to his house a few days later to read for the part. I agreed, and one late afternoon the following week I returned. His staff served a light dinner and Bill and I talked more about my plans for the future.

After the meal, we walked upstairs to a huge living area of his home that featured a massive bar. A huge brass espresso contraption took up half the counter. At the time, it seemed rare for someone to have such a machine in his home for personal use.

Cosby said he wanted to see how I handled various scenes, so he suggested that I pretend to be drunk. (When did a pregnant woman ever appear drunk on The Cosby Show? Probably never, but I went with it.)

As I readied myself to be the best drunk I could be, he offered me a cappuccino from the espresso machine. I told him I didn’t drink coffee that late in the afternoon because it made getting to sleep at night more difficult. He wouldn’t let it go. He insisted that his espresso machine was the best model on the market and promised I’d never tasted a cappuccino quite like this one.

It’s nuts, I know, but it felt oddly inappropriate arguing with Bill Cosby so I took a few sips of the coffee just to appease him.

Now let me explain this: I was a top model during the 70s, a period when drugs flowed at parties and photo shoots like bottled water at a health spa. I’d had my fun and experimented with my fair share of mood enhancers. I knew by the second sip of the drink Cosby had given me that I’d been drugged—and drugged good.
[Editor’s Note: Cosby’s attorneys did not respond to Vanity Fair’s requests for comment.]

My head became woozy, my speech became slurred, and the room began to spin nonstop. Cosby motioned for me to come over to him as though we were really about to act out the scene. He put his hands around my waist, and I managed to put my hand on his shoulder in order to steady myself.

As I felt my body go completely limp, my brain switched into automatic-survival mode. That meant making sure Cosby understood that I knew exactly what was happening at that very moment.

“You are a mother####er aren’t you?”

That’s the exact question I yelled at him as he stood there holding me, expecting me to bend to his will. I rapidly called him several more “mother####ers.” By the fifth, I could tell that I was really pissing him off. At one point he dropped his hands from my waist and just stood there looking at me like I’d lost my mind.

What happened next is somewhat cloudy for me because the drug was in fuller play by that time. I recall his seething anger at my tirade and then him grabbing me by my left arm hard and yanking all 110 pounds of me down a bunch of stairs as my high heels clicked and clacked on every step. I feared my neck was going to break with the force he was using to pull me down those stairs.

It was still late afternoon and the sun hadn’t completely gone down yet. When we reached the front door, he pulled me outside of the brownstone and then, with his hand still tightly clenched around my arm, stood in the middle of the street waving down taxis.

When one stopped, Cosby opened the door, shoved me into it and slammed the door behind me without ever saying a word. I somehow managed to tell the driver my address and before blacking out, I looked at the cabbie and asked, as if he knew: “Did I really just call Bill Cosby ‘a mother####er’?”

Why that was even a concern of mine after what I’d just been through is still a mystery to me? I think my mind refused to process it.

The next day I woke up in my own bed after falling into a deep sleep that lasted most of the day. I had no memory of how I got into my apartment or into my bed, though most likely my doorman helped me out.

I sat in there still stunned by what happened the night before, confused and devastated by the idea that someone I admired so much had tried to take advantage of me, and used drugs to do so. Had I done something to encourage his actions?

In reality, I knew I’d done nothing to encourage Cosby but my mind kept turning with question after question.

It took a few days for the drug to completely wear off and soon I had to get back to work. I headed to California for an acting audition. Not long after arriving, I decided I needed to confront Cosby for my own sanity’s sake. I thought if I just called him, he would come clean and explain why he’d done what he had.

I dialed the private number he’d given me expecting to hear his voice on the other end. But he didn’t answer. His wife did. A little shocked, I quickly identified myself to her in the most respectful way possible and then asked to speak to Bill. Camille politely informed me that it was very late, 11:00 P.M. and that they were both in bed together.

I apologized for the late call and explained that I was in Los Angeles and had forgotten about the three-hour time difference. I added that I would call back tomorrow.

I didn’t call back the next day or any other day after that. At a certain moment it became clear that I would be fighting a losing battle with a powerful man so callous he not only drugged me, but he also gave me the number to the bedroom he shared with his wife. How could I fight someone that boldly arrogant and out of touch? In the end, just like the other women, I had too much to lose to go after Bill Cosby. I had a career that would no doubt take a huge hit if I went public with my story and I certainly couldn’t afford that after my costly divorce and on going court fees.
 
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Man, this guy's been busy. How did he find time to be with all these women and keep up his career and family life? :loco:

 
Talk about some gold digging ho's. I think we are now at the point where we should ask, 'who out there hasn't been raped by Bill Cosby'.

 

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