Don Hutson
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He needs Kevin Lanflisi back in his life. His downturn exactly coincides with shacking up with Olivia Munn and Danica Patrick.
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QB Aaron Rodgers, NYJ (2 Viewers)
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tackle for loss
Footballguy
He is already useless. I would be in a better spot if I didnt roster him it appears.
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
Maybe - the Giants defense generally works as a slump-buster though so I’m willing to roll the dice
Yenrub
Footballguy
Before tonight my plan for next week was to start Rodgers vs. Giants instead of starting Lamar against the 49ers defense.
Don Hutson
Footballguy
The Weather Channel is forecasting a 80% chance of rain/snow in East Rutherford this Sunday. It's 5 days away so the forecast could change. And Rodgers has traditionally been good in snow.
Down Under
Footballguy
tackle for loss
Footballguy
I would play LJ with no legs and arms before I would play Rodgers against a high school team at this point.
tackle for loss
Footballguy
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tackle for loss
Footballguy
Supposed to have terrible weather tomorrow.
So for those of you who kept this fantasy wasteland of a player for this stretch of the year, its gonna stink to get 0 or maybe 1 TD from a guy who already loves to hand off against a team that just gives away passing TDs like candy.
Dak has thrown 7 total TDs against the NYG this year, will Rodgers get any? Hopefully you cut Rodgers already before you relied on him this week, but the weather is what it is.
So for those of you who kept this fantasy wasteland of a player for this stretch of the year, its gonna stink to get 0 or maybe 1 TD from a guy who already loves to hand off against a team that just gives away passing TDs like candy.
Dak has thrown 7 total TDs against the NYG this year, will Rodgers get any? Hopefully you cut Rodgers already before you relied on him this week, but the weather is what it is.
tackle for loss
Footballguy
He has not thrown for 30 TDs since 2016 and he wont do it this year. He needs 12 in 4 weeks and he aint playing week 17.
3 a week. Is it even possible?
3 a week. Is it even possible?
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ratbast
Footballguy
Bad weather, an established running game, perhaps the only way to stop GB is to stop AJones. Could leave the pass game open. Hoping so. I’ve paired him with Murray and had fully planned to run the kid out but that hammy.
I think most of the comments about him are missing the fact the running game is doing so well. Along with a solid defense, they should be running and are having much success. Russel Wilson dealt with the same thing in the past few years even though that was more based on lack of defense and pass pro.
They are 8-3, Rodgers had to embrace the running game and has. I think the lack of balance is based on that and the lack of good options beyond Adams and Jones. The #2 and 3 WRs don’t scare any defense. And Graham is what he is.
I think most of the comments about him are missing the fact the running game is doing so well. Along with a solid defense, they should be running and are having much success. Russel Wilson dealt with the same thing in the past few years even though that was more based on lack of defense and pass pro.
They are 8-3, Rodgers had to embrace the running game and has. I think the lack of balance is based on that and the lack of good options beyond Adams and Jones. The #2 and 3 WRs don’t scare any defense. And Graham is what he is.
Don Hutson
Footballguy
Rodgers has always had the reputation of playing well in cold and bad weather. I can't back it up with specifics.
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kittenmittens
Footballguy
Rodgers has barely been supporting the other players on that offense. He has to be due for an explosion against the Giants. Mitch just exploded against them. If Rodgers doesn't do it, its time to worry about Rodgers' decline being faster than we thought.
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
Yep - total disastertackle for loss said:
tackle for loss
Footballguy
Well, he silenced me for a week. He needs more of these games.DAG said:
tackle for loss
Footballguy
Yeah, why dont you come in after the fact.
I love how if a player blows up for one game, they no longer stink.
tackle for loss
Footballguy
Of course, look at you people who stay silent until after the fact. He still is terrible, he blew up for one game. If you guys stay silent with you support of him before the game, im gonna delete my bashing of him after.
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OnTheReg
Footballguy
dude anyone that calls Aaron Rodgers "terrible" has already lost his argument.
KingPrawn
Footballguy
Oh my. You've been all over the boards stating Rodgers is washed up and would rather hand off. Your take was sooooo bad nobody took it seriously and it wasn't even worth the time to respond to. And then you delete all your posts rather then stand behind them. Time to retire your user name. I'm not sure how you can show your face around here again.
tackle for loss
Footballguy
No, anyone who stays silent while he stinks up the joint and then comes in after he does decent against the Giants has no argument.
Also, where was your love for him this past week when he went 100 and 1?
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tackle for loss
Footballguy
He is terrible, I'll edit what i want and I dont delete posts...you cant, I deleted a guarantee, sure. Look at how you guys come in after the fact and act like this. He is still terrible. I just wont guarantee anything. lol Im still here, you wont be when he stinks up against Washington.
Its awesome to watch people stay silent then come in and roast me like THEY won something cuz Rodgers didnt stink.
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OnTheReg
Footballguy
I've made plenty of bad takes around here, and I certainly am not so insecure that I delete them after the fact. The Packers are a running team now, Rodgers has had plenty of subpar games this year but he's also had games (like today) where he looks like the Rodgers he has always been. Take your nonsense elsewhere, it ain't working.
tackle for loss
Footballguy
And hyping Rodgers cuz of a good gave after 3 straight bad ones is another take, its embarrassing to watch people jump back on board cuz of one game.
Plenty of sub par games? He had 4 over 20 fantasy pointes before today. Peopel who talk after the fact are the funniest, acting like he does this often. Its why you all waited, you werent sure. lol
Tanny got 4 TDs last week, lets wait to see if he backs it up next week before you come to his praises.
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The Frankman
Footballguy
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
I didn’t - go check the thread again. You threw dirt on his grave over and over again this week and I said that he’s a matchup play and that the Giants are a great spot start for him.
Yenrub
Footballguy
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
matttyl
Footballguy
Generally speaking, I don't take fantasy advice from folks who can't spell the word "points" or "people" correctly....even after editing their post.
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It's weird to type this, but I agree that Rodgers is a matchup play this year--he's blown up in a couple of games against dreadful defenses (Philly, Oakland, KC, and NYG) and laid absolute stinkers against any defense with a pulse. I had to blow a roster spot to cover him during the playoffs (weeks 15 and 16). Not a hot take. Just facts. I'll start him next week and show him the bench in the following weeks, running Daniel Jones! out there against Miami and Washington.
Steel Curtainrod
Footballguy
Washington just shut down McCaffrey and Allen hung 30 on them.
tackle for loss
Footballguy
Im sure you know this isnt a good post, for many reasons. Its drifting away from topic with talking of typos. Whats your thoughts on him this week? Does he duplicate the outlier or does he stink up the joint? Get in before he does it.
Whats your thoughts on him this week? For those starting him this week, are you confident in a follow up or are you worried about a stinker?
Im pretty sure a stinker is in line. If he blows up, I will take my lumps. But this was the rare occasion, not the norm.
Players do blow up, even ones not being studly, but that doesnt make them a must own or a stud again. Rodgers is matchup base if u roster him as you suggest.
CalBear
Footballguy
How often do players set all-time records for fantasy points scored, as Rodgers did in week 7?
matttyl
Footballguy
Starting him with confidence. Maybe not a "blow up game" as the Redskins run defense isn't good, so if the Packers get ahead early they'll just run all day. That said, they did just shut down McCaffery, and their offense is showing some signs of life itself - so Rodgers might have to do a bit of throwing the ball.
My post above, while snarky, was just pointing out that your posts are hard to read not only for the bad takes you have (in multiple threads), but because of the spelling and typos. It comes across as you thinking that if players have any scoring variances from week to week, they stink. I mean are you now saying that Mahomes stinks because of back to back below average performances, and likely a third this coming week at New England?
I'll go 270 yards, and a pair of passing TDs. He's been averaging about 5.5 more fantasy points per game at home this year.
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kittenmittens
Footballguy
Hot take alert.
Rodgers is washed, if he ever was as good as we once thought.
In hindsight, Rodgers was never really that good as an all around quarterback. He wasn't elite because he was making sound decisions and reads, other than being conservative with throws. He was good because he had built an amazing rapport with his WR. Every time it was 3rd and long, he could complete an undefendable back shoulder throw to Jordy Nelson with perfect timing. The other thing he did very well was extend plays out of the pocket
Now that he no longer has that free get out of trouble on 3rd and long back shoulder timing route, he can't come anywhere near his previous success... Especially because defense have tried to take away his ability to extend plays.
He was never a Tom Brady or Peyton Manning type of player. He's a poor man's Russell Wilson.
Rodgers is washed, if he ever was as good as we once thought.
In hindsight, Rodgers was never really that good as an all around quarterback. He wasn't elite because he was making sound decisions and reads, other than being conservative with throws. He was good because he had built an amazing rapport with his WR. Every time it was 3rd and long, he could complete an undefendable back shoulder throw to Jordy Nelson with perfect timing. The other thing he did very well was extend plays out of the pocket
Now that he no longer has that free get out of trouble on 3rd and long back shoulder timing route, he can't come anywhere near his previous success... Especially because defense have tried to take away his ability to extend plays.
He was never a Tom Brady or Peyton Manning type of player. He's a poor man's Russell Wilson.
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tackle for loss
Footballguy
I suspect he's still calling his own plays and ignoring what comes in from the sidelines...which is why they lay eggs every now & then.. It's not like the rookie HC is gonna make waves about it.
I Am the Stig
Footballguy
This is a pretty terrible take other than the bit about the player he is now. Shocker, he is on the wrong side of 30.
The revisionist history on him though is as bad a take as ever been written.
kittenmittens
Footballguy
If it's that bad, surely you can easily refute it with more than just saying it's terrible.
Chicago Hooligan
Footballguy
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CalBear
Footballguy
This is pretty incredibly stupid. First of all, building rapport with a good receiver is what a good QB does. Does Tom Brady get discredited for building rapport with Julian Edelman and Gronk? I mean, are you actually making this argument seriously?
Among other holes in it, he won a Super Bowl MVP award in a year where Jordy Nelson had just 45/582/2. So I supposed before Rodgers had great rapport with Nelson (who sucked after he left Green Bay) he had great rapport with Greg Jennings (who sucked after he left Green Bay).
And apparently he's the NFL career leader in passer rating because of back-shoulder third down throws to Jordy Nelson? How obtuse are you?
I Am the Stig
Footballguy
I don’t have to refute anything just use the examples of his play that you claim are why he was never very good.
“Every time it was 3rd and long, he could complete an undefendable back shoulder throw to Jordy Nelson with perfect timing.”
So throwing a undefendable back shoulder thrown with perfect timing is a bad thing?
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kittenmittens
Footballguy
Yeah... I suppose it is kind of stupid to criticize the way in which he got it done. Building rapport is what a good QB does and not a bad thing at all, but Brady and Manning did more than that and Brady at least has way less physical tools than Rodgers.CalBear said:
For the record, I certainly don't mean he sucked, just not the greatest of all time like we once thought and many probably still think. I know it's a hot take, I just think he is overrated.
I hate the argument of counting QB Super Bowls because it is a team sport, but I do think his attitude contributed to Green Bay not being there more during his career. It's not like these were bad teams.
I also see that I used poor very phrasing if people think I am saying he was "never very good.". He's not as good as I once thought, mainly at the mental processing aspect of the game, he's obviously very good. I do think Wilson is better though.
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