FUBAR
Footballguy
This is a different question. While watt has been awesome, it shouldn't surprise anyone if Wilson or even newton would be taken ahead of him.Eta Cam maybe not but he's worth considering.
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That's remarkable - all three of his INT this year were tipped balls.3 INTs, you can make the argument that one of them was leading his receiver too far -- but two of them were good throws that were mishandled by receivers.I Am the Stig said:Tipped passes are usually thrown high but point taken.Bigboy10182000 said:The worst part is that if it werent for tipped/ batted balls he wouldnt have any picks this seasonI Am the Stig said:Numbers are both inflated and astounding.The interceptions is most telling to me though.Raider Nation said:Better late than never, Bloom.
Sigmund Bloom @SigmundBloom
Is Aaron Rodgers having the greatest QB season of all-time? There's definitely an argument that he is. Numbers are astounding
GIFs of each:
https://imgur.com/a/Hy8Rh
Sabertooth
Footballguy
That's just sick. I hope the defense holds it together during the playoffs. Guy reminds me of Gretzky. Just makes it look too easy.
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I Am the Stig
Footballguy
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Bills D... did just show Manning down and now are at home.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Bills D is going to be a great test.
I Am the Stig
Footballguy
Pop Tart
Footballguy
This is a team sport, correct? 11 on 11?
Just checking.
I do agree that no way should Dan Marino be in the GOAT discussion though and that Trent Dilfer should be.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Hopefully the past few weeks of teams dropping back into coverage will help the WRs and backs be ready for it more...but will have to be quicker as this D can bring the pressure with the front 4.
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little concerned about this Bills matchup. No margin for error in the playoffs. Need a big game but I think his stats might be more on the pedestrian side. Still QB1 stats, but not high end. Maybe 7-10ish
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General Tso
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Today's jeopardy category - "Stinky stinky".
The answer is - 34.3
Any guesses?
The answer is - 34.3
Any guesses?
MaxThreshold
Footballguy
yeah we know, but it's only one game. Everyone has bad days.
In reality, Rodger's receivers were completely awful. Dropping passes left and right and letting them bounce of their hands (two for interceptions). This game does nothing to change the discussion.
Faust
MVP
Bills upset Packers; Rodgers has career-worst game:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000443628/article/bills-upset-packers-rodgers-has-careerworst-game
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000443628/article/bills-upset-packers-rodgers-has-careerworst-game
He's putting up great stats - but I don't know that he has enough to grit out a win. I was wondering if he could do it today and he couldn't.
Plays great when all systems are firing - but when things are not he hasn't really shown the poise to win anyways
Completely serious
Plays great when all systems are firing - but when things are not he hasn't really shown the poise to win anyways
Completely serious
jurb26
Footballguy
Jordy dropping that sure 80 yd TD kind of hurt.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
94 to be exact.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Gah. I missed the almost touchdown to jordy. Probably the difference for me in a league.
jurb26
Footballguy
Missed that play. No doubt Rodgers had a bad day. Still, it could have been better. Jordy had another bad drop in this game. Jordy had a rough outing.
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General Tso
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I've been saying it for years - just imagine what Rodgers would do if he had some decent Wide Receivers.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Packers had all kinds of issues today, but Rodgers was pretty bad. Who cares? Still the best QB in the league.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Yeah, special teams was bad...drops were awful...and rodgers was off.
Cant do that on the road and win.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Your memory would have to reach all the way back to mid October to get to the last game winning 2 minute drive featuring multiple conversion, runs, a fake spike and a go ahead touchdown to the TE with 3 seconds to play.
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General Tso
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Tom Brady says hello.
sho nuff
Footballguy
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General Tso
Guest
Actually, no. From first place as the #1 seed saying hello to someone who just spit the bit against the Buffalo fukcing Bills, insuring his team the #2 seed at best.Never thought I'd say this, but Tom Brady is your MVP of the league right now.
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sho nuff
Footballguy
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Any amount of money you'd like to put on that? We just need to agree on a neutral party to hold the cash.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
I would be the neutral party but I want in on that action myself 
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
He obviously cost a lot of people games today, but your anger will eventually be set aside. You won't want me to bump these posts 10 years from now where you people are criticizing the greatest QB who ever lived.
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Mr Anonymous
Footballguy
Congratulations on being "that guy". As soon as I saw the thread bumped, it was just a matter of who, not what.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Funny how nobody had a bad thing to say about the guy in the 27 days prior that this thread was here.
Green and Gold
Footballguy
Rodgers is still the leader in the MVP race imo . 35 TD to 5 INT, 111.2 passer rating? That's just silly. Brady is in the conversation too, and if you look strictly at their stats, Manning, Luck, and Roethlisberger as well. The last couple games can definitely change the voting, but unless the Packers lose again I think Rodgers will take it.
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Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Brady isn't even the 2nd most valuable QB in 2014, much less the most valuable QB or player.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Brady really isn't in the conversation and neither is anyone else. This is not a knock on Brady as he's a complete stud. Rodgers is just on another level at this point.
Green and Gold
Footballguy
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Ok so give your rationale as to why Brady could possibly be ahead of Rodgers in the MVP race.......
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
The only argument one could make is based on team success - the Patriots have more wins than the Packers - but based on the eye test and the numbers, Brady isn't even top 3 among quarterbacks this year. Rodgers, Luck and Peyton are top 3, in that order. Luck has more INTs than those guys, but consider what he is doing behind a horrific offensive line.Ok so give your rationale as to why Brady could possibly be ahead of Rodgers in the MVP race.......
Green and Gold
Footballguy
He's not. I said that Rodgers is ahead of Brady, and everyone else, without a doubt as of today. However, MVP voters always put (too much, imo) emphasis on where the team is in the standings. If the Packers lose to Detroit and become a wild card team while the Patriots or Broncos get home field then the MVP race becomes a toss up. People start looking at strength of schedule (Broncos currently have 3rd most difficult, Patriots 5th, Packers 19th) and it all gets even more muddled from there as the stat geeks come out to play. Then the FBG board explodes with threads about what MVP really means, everyone calls each other an idiot, and a dozen people get a board vacation.Ok so give your rationale as to why Brady could possibly be ahead of Rodgers in the MVP race.......
Hopefully the Packers win out so we can avoid all that.
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msudaisy26
Footballguy
The MVP race right now is Rodgers, Luck, Brady, Manning then Watt.
If it wasn't a qb league Watt would be second.
Here are the ways Rodgers could be caught and it is based on the guy listed winning out and being very impressive doing it.
Luck could catch Rodgers if he has another bad game against Detroit and the Packers lose.
Brady could leap them both if the Pats win out and he out plays Luck in the stats department the last 2 weeks.
Manning could jump them all if the win out and he goes back to passing 45 times a game and putting up crazy numbers.
If it wasn't a qb league Watt would be second.
Here are the ways Rodgers could be caught and it is based on the guy listed winning out and being very impressive doing it.
Luck could catch Rodgers if he has another bad game against Detroit and the Packers lose.
Brady could leap them both if the Pats win out and he out plays Luck in the stats department the last 2 weeks.
Manning could jump them all if the win out and he goes back to passing 45 times a game and putting up crazy numbers.
Stinger Ray
Footballguy
keep fishing
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Still the best. Had and off day.
Faust
MVP
Aaron Rodgers not totally to blame in Packers' offensive letdown:
http://espn.go.com/blog/green-bay-packers/post/_/id/16302/offense-takes-the-blame-for-packers-loss
http://espn.go.com/blog/green-bay-packers/post/_/id/16302/offense-takes-the-blame-for-packers-loss
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