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I am watching every Bond movie: please kill me (3 Viewers)
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Leroy Hoard
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squistion
Footballguy
I'll agree with that. You Only Live Twice should have been a big hit, but was not. For some reason the movie version was not released on single - instead Reprise had Nancy Sinatra rerecord it and her second version was rather flat compared to the original.
Mr. Ected
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He can't have fallen for the girl because of who she is. I suppose they could have fallen, but you'd think that Mom would have told her to stay away from him!!!
At the beginning of Skyfall, when he is on the beach away from everything, he has a girl. They don't do very much with her, but he walks away from her on his way to the bar.
Casino Royale (Craig Version) came out when people where big into poker. Remember 5-10 years ago when the World Series of Poker was a big play on ESPN? That could be why they made it such a big deal, or chose the story.
I liked the way they linked CR and QoS with the car chase at the beginning of QoS; having the guy he captured at the end of CR in the trunk of the car. Liked that car chase. Wonder if people would respond to a pole of top Bond
Leroy Hoard
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NCCommish
Footballguy
This is so silly. Have you even seen a game of baccarat played outside of a Bond movie? Poker is just a little more relevant to the viewers.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
There was supposed to be a trilogy with CR, QoS, and a third movie. Then they made Skyfall, which had no ties to the previous two movies. I wished they finished up the trilogy before they decide to do a mini reboot. It looks like Spectre will be the third movie in the trilogy.
Eephus
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Quantum of Solace was one of the biggest disappointments of the series. There were well publicized problems with the script but incomprehensible scripts are almost a 007 tradition. The bigger problem for me was director Marc Forster's complete inability to film action sequences. At their core, all Bond movies are a bunch of action set pieces strung together. The fight and chase scenes in Quantum of Solace were impossible to follow, jumbled messes of quick cuts and odd camera angles.
IvanKaramazov
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I think Skyfall is overrated personally -- I don't need Bond's childhood backstory and I'm not a fan of the new Q. It's still good and probably in the top half of Bond movie. And I get that the first three Craig movies were, in essence, a reboot-trilogy. That particular installment just didn't resonate with me like it did with others.
All that said, I'm a big fan of Craig and Casino Royale is still way up there on the list for me.
All that said, I'm a big fan of Craig and Casino Royale is still way up there on the list for me.
IvanKaramazov
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Sorry, but this is wrong. I can accept any permutation of Connery-Craig-Moore, but Dalton and Brosnan are fighting it out for last place.
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
Capella
Footballguy
Went into work this morning. Messed up my whole day.:sighay attention, Capella.
Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
I've always thought Moore was the worst. He was too campy. He played it like Leslie Nielsen did in the "Naked Gun" movies.
AAABatteries
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Completely agree with one minor caveat that Lazenby is worst. My rankings go:
Connery > Craig > Moore > Brosnan > Dalton > Lazenby
Craig will never supplant Connery. For me, Connery will always be #1.
Eephus
Footballguy
It was the 70s
Moore was pretty good in the role of the campy, arched eyebrow Bond of the 70s and early 80s. The last Connery movie Diamonds are Forever was the first of this type of action comedy 007. But where Connery looked tired and bored, Moore by comparison looked like he was in on the joke and having some fun with it.
squistion
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I don't think anyone has suggested that Craig has supplanted Connery. Connery defined the role, but Craig has given it a contemporary, 21st century take and has made Bond a three dimensional real character. An apples and oranges comparison.
And as campy as Moore was, he did save the franchise to live for another day (according to most film buffs/historians).
Capella
Footballguy
That one was fun, even with the ridiculous stupid volcano explosion at the end. Going to be weird to start watching these post-Connery now.
BOND POWER RANKINGS SO FAR:
1. From Russia
2. Goldfiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinger (he's just too much!)
3. Dr. No
4. You Only Live Twice
5. Thunderball
Next up...On Her Majesty's Secret Service
BOND POWER RANKINGS SO FAR:
1. From Russia
2. Goldfiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinger (he's just too much!)
3. Dr. No
4. You Only Live Twice
5. Thunderball
Next up...On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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Dentist
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Dalton would be perceived completely differently as a bond if not for the long legal dispute and if he had gotten to do goldeneye which was written with him in mind.
I think Craig and Dalton interpret the character similarly but Craig has had better scripts
As for the books, I love bond, but hate Fleming's writing. Tried a couple titles, never finished one
I think Craig and Dalton interpret the character similarly but Craig has had better scripts
As for the books, I love bond, but hate Fleming's writing. Tried a couple titles, never finished one
Capella
Footballguy
There's probably about 10 I haven't seen. Including the next one. Thinking of throwing it in instead of this god-awful nfl game.
Ilov80s
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You've never seen OHMSS? It's probably the best Bond movie- Lazenby doesn't do the funny/campy Bond that Moore and Connery did. If anything, it's a more modern Bond movie than one would expect.
Capella
Footballguy
Eephus
Footballguy
Telly Savalas is kind of an odd casting choice for Blofeld but he makes it work.Looking forward to it.
NCCommish
Footballguy
I liked Dalton but I think Craig is the better actor and really that is the difference.
Eephus
Footballguy
Craig (or Connery for that matter) couldn't have salvaged the mess that was Licence to Kill.
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Mr. Ected
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Often wonder how the Bond movies would have turned out if Brosnan had taken the job when originally offered it (before Dalton).
I always heard it ws because his wife died. But reading Wikipedia, they say it was because of the adding of a new Remington Steele season due to increased interest in Brosnan as a potential James Bond.
I always heard it ws because his wife died. But reading Wikipedia, they say it was because of the adding of a new Remington Steele season due to increased interest in Brosnan as a potential James Bond.
NCCommish
Footballguy
As I recall the TV show had him by the contract and they couldn't wait to do the Bond movie any longer. I liked Dalton as Bond as much as Brosnan don't know that there would be much difference really.
NCCommish
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squistion
Footballguy
The only reason NBC renewed Remington Steel was to keep Brosnon from accepting the Bond role (he was contractually bound to Remington Steel if the show was renewed for another season).
Flying V
Footballguy
He has grown on me over the years. He was more like Bond in real life than any of the others. Totally BSed his way into the role by telling the producers he had acting experience when he actually had none.
Mr. Ected
Footballguy
I had always heard it was because he was down (understandably) due to his first wife's passing. The RS contract makes sense on NBCs side.I like Brosnan better, but they're different to everyone.
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
I just watched the McConkey documentary. Wow.
Shane tried something much more extreme. He flipped and then tried to remove his bindings before going into a wing suit flight with much less altitude to work with than Rick Sylvester. One of the bindings didn't release and Shane went into an unrecoverable spin. God, what a heart-wrenching story. The guy was winding it down at 39 and a three year old daughter at home. He had done it all and then some. Just a tragic loss.
Eephus
Footballguy
It was the least Bondy 007. It was like a Miami Vice episode with a big rig chase at the end.
packersfan
Footballguy
My take too. I would probably rank Dalton over Brosnan because he was also trying to get the type of menace in the character that Connery played so well and effortlessly and Moore never could. Craig nailed that part of it but I like how Dalton made a concerted effort to go there.
Moore dead last for me too. Most of his movies (except his last one) were still fun enough so I enjoyed them for the entertainment but they all paled to how well Connery did it. It really wasn't until Craig came along that someone totally captured Bond in a way close to how Connery did.
packersfan
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Dentist
***Official FBG Dentist***
people underestimate the importance of a good script.
Connery was solid because he got to play in some of the best scripts there were.
When the OP gets to Diamonds are Forever, he'll understand better because even the return of Connery didn't make that a good flick
If he chooses to watch the non-canon "Never say Never again" which is a lousy remake of Thunderball, it'll be more apparent.
Dentist
***Official FBG Dentist***
To get the role he went to the same place Connery had his tailoring done, went to the same hair stylist... just really tried to capture the role.
I think he could've played the character very well, quitting after one has to be the biggest regret of his life financially... and that certainly didn't translate into any other jobs for him either. It's a shame they couldn't have just captured Roger Moore right at OHMSS so he could've started.. and quit earlier.
If Moore had quit after For Your Eyes Only (but played OHMSS and Diamonds are Forever) and Dalton had run from Octo##### through License to Kill, both of them would be perceived better as Bonds
Dentist
***Official FBG Dentist***
See Roger Moore is my favorite.. sure he wasn't a tough guy and thus didn't play the book character per se, but he was fun, his movies were mostly fun, and if you take them in the context they are supposed to be in.. campy, 70's style, and can admire Moore's style and panache they are very entertaining.
Dalton's only flaw is that I think he went out of his way to over-correct Moore's interpretation and the people who loved Roger Moore went in and saw such a radically different interpretation of the character that Dalton's films were immediately the least commercially successful of the run despite most certainly not being the worst.
Again though.. if Dalton had played Goldeneye... everything would be different.
packersfan
Footballguy
I thought Brosnan did the "camp" type of Bond better than Moore. I like Dalton because it was so outside the box at the time and such a stark contrast to Moore which I really thought was needed. But as was said Dalton didn't have the strongest of scripts like Craig has typically gotten. I do think Craig's a better actor but not by a great margin. But for me, he's got the essence of Bond down better than anyone sans Connery. Or at least he has the essence of the type of Bond I enjoy watching most down.
