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Official Dynasty & Redraft: RB Ezekiel Elliott, Cowboys


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3 minutes ago, Smack Tripper said:

I passed on zeke at 1.10 last night for Beckham in a league that skews slightly to WR.  I was shocked he was there but I should have better prepared for it.  I have some buyers remorse passing on him but my main misgiving is it feels like we often see guys hold out or miss suspension time and come out and overdo it and get hurt

A pulled hamstring or groin in the 1st or 2nd game back wouldn't surprise me.

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4 hours ago, Don Hutson said:

OTAs consist of 10 days of practice.  That's not much in 8 months.  We have no idea what he is doing in Cabo.  The fact that his buddy Marshall Faulk says he is working out with him means little.  The fact that he has posted a few photos on Twitter of him working out means little.  Lots of superstar athletes let themselves get out of shape when they aren't in a structured environment but they claim to be working out intensely the entire time.  We do know that he Zeke likes to party and that he has often shown bad judgement in the past.  At best he will be rusty.  At worst he will be in bad shape.  Proof is in the pudding, not social media posts or the opinions of fanboys on fantasy football message boards.

 

:lol:  You just said we have no idea what he's doing in cabo and then listed a bunch of stuff he did. 

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14 minutes ago, tonydead said:

:lmao:. The unproven rookie is worth starting behind the best OL in the league but people are worried that the best RB in the league might be a little rusty because he hasn't been working out on the sidelines with the team.  

Yeah they probably limit his touches the first week back unless he practiced all week with the team. 

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34 minutes ago, tonydead said:

:lol:  You just said we have no idea what he's doing in cabo and then listed a bunch of stuff he did. 

You know what he’s not doing?  Getting football reps with active professionals for hours a day all summer.  

I don’t care how much he is working out.  Not playing football all summer means he is won’t be in game shape.  A lot of guys IN camp suck wind the first couple of weeks (cramps and stuff).   He’s not walking off the street into the huddle this Sunday.  And, the Cowboys don’t need him to.  The Giants are a joke.   

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2 minutes ago, zoonation said:

You know what he’s not doing?  Getting football reps with active professionals for hours a day all summer.  

I don’t care how much he is working out.  Not playing football all summer means he is won’t be in game shape.  A lot of guys IN camp suck wind the first couple of weeks (cramps and stuff).   He’s not walking off the street into the huddle this Sunday.  And, the Cowboys don’t need him to.  The Giants are a joke.   

He literally did this two years ago. Cabo straight to the field. No drop off

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5 minutes ago, zoonation said:

You know what he’s not doing?  Getting football reps with active professionals for hours a day all summer.  

I don’t care how much he is working out.  Not playing football all summer means he is won’t be in game shape.  A lot of guys IN camp suck wind the first couple of weeks (cramps and stuff).   He’s not walking off the street into the huddle this Sunday.  And, the Cowboys don’t need him to.  The Giants are a joke.   

Lol. How many hits has Saquan taken this summer?  You expect the same limitations for Sean Lee, Byron Jones, Zack Martin and DeMarcus Lawerence?  Nope. 

Agree with the giants part. 

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Everyone knows that Cabo has world class NFL training facilities... everything you need is there; sand, beaches, tequila... not to mention the ~45 yr old football commentator that is getting him ready.

I have no doubt Zeke will be ready for a full workload when he comes back and they travel to New England.

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5 minutes ago, tonydead said:

Lol. How many hits has Saquan taken this summer?  You expect the same limitations for Sean Lee, Byron Jones, Zack Martin and DeMarcus Lawerence?  Nope. 

Agree with the giants part. 

I was talking about camp. Not meaningless pre season games.   

We’ll see.  I think he signs this week.  He has no leverage. 

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1 minute ago, zoonation said:

I was talking about camp. Not meaningless pre season games.   

We’ll see.  I think he signs this week.  He has no leverage. 

A couple padded practises a week?  Wind sprints?  What exactly is he missing he can't do in cabo?  Answer: Kellen Moore's playbook. But he was at OTAs and they will lean on him if they need to.  Agree his leverage is toast. 

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Just now, Smack Tripper said:

they're playing the giants, they won't even need him

Yeah, thanks to them I'll be eating crow. But if he plays he will start and get a fair share until the game is in hand.  I'm on record in here saying Pollard will cut into his carries anyway. Not sure why I'm even arguing, dont own Zeke and have Pollard. 

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43 minutes ago, rockaction said:

I have the 1.02, come to find out in redraft. I'd take Zeke in a heartbeat but don't think I can stomach it. Kamara, I guess, is the way to go. 

Same, I logged on late and got Kamara, got Pollard way later. I would have taken Zeke tho because of Homer.  

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3 hours ago, Dizzy said:

Everyone knows that Cabo has world class NFL training facilities... everything you need is there; sand, beaches, tequila... not to mention the ~45 yr old football commentator that is getting him ready.

I have no doubt Zeke will be ready for a full workload when he comes back and they travel to New England.

You mean, HOF RB Marshall Faulk?  Yeah, what a shlub.

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6 hours ago, Rhythmdoctor said:

You mean, HOF RB Marshall Faulk?  Yeah, what a shlub.

Didn't mean to imply that he was a "shlub"... just referring to him for what he is and not what he was. Would be more meaningful IMO if Zeke was working out with someone who was actively trying to get back into the NFL, not someone who played their last meaningful game when Zeke was ~5 yrs old.

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1 hour ago, Dizzy said:

Didn't mean to imply that he was a "shlub"... just referring to him for what he is and not what he was. Would be more meaningful IMO if Zeke was working out with someone who was actively trying to get back into the NFL, not someone who played their last meaningful game when Zeke was ~5 yrs old.

Say what? You don’t need to have played in the NFL to train someone 

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According to Shannon Sharpe the deal is close?

I received some information that Zeke and his team are on their way back to Dallas. It's going to be a 7-year deal and it'll be a mega deal, one that's going to shock a lot of people… I do believe Zeke Elliott will carry the ball on Sunday for the Cowboys.

https://thebiglead.com/2019/09/03/shannon-sharpe-ezekiel-elliott-on-way-to-dallas-will-sign-7-year-deal/

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6 minutes ago, Tool said:

Big mistake imo

ETA: Patriots wouldn’t do a deal like this in a million years

 

While I agree the deal will probably cost them in the long run, it does seem fair to compare anyone to the Pats. How many teams have a franchise qb willing to take under market value, let alone the GOAT doing it. Financial decisions are easy when that's the case.

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1 minute ago, Wise Old Owl said:

While I agree the deal will probably cost them in the long run, it does seem fair to compare anyone to the Pats. How many teams have a franchise qb willing to take under market value, let alone the GOAT doing it. Financial decisions are easy when that's the case.

And yet even with the GOAT giving home town discounts, they still don't invest heavily in the RB position. There's a reason for that.

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9 minutes ago, Wise Old Owl said:

While I agree the deal will probably cost them in the long run, it does seem fair to compare anyone to the Pats. How many teams have a franchise qb willing to take under market value, let alone the GOAT doing it. Financial decisions are easy when that's the case.

That comment makes no sense. That would give them more money to spend on a RB, and they still don’t.

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38 minutes ago, Tool said:

Big mistake imo

ETA: Patriots wouldn’t do a deal like this in a million years

 

100% agree, and not just the Patriots. Eagles wouldn't, Chiefs wouldn't. 

If this costs them Amari Cooper and/or Byron Jones, they'll be much worse off than they would have been by letting Elliott walk. I think unless he completely faceplants this season, Dak is likely next.

ETA: This also sets a bad precedent for holding out with 2 years left on a deal. 

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4 minutes ago, Amused to Death said:

It'll be interesting to see if they let Cooper walk after just a year and a half on the team.

It certainly sounds like Cooper is the Odd man out. They’re signing Zeke and Dak the word is two will definitely get signed but no way can they sign three. Four of their five OL are signed until 2023 so that line will be intact for years to come (Zeke and Dak benefits greatly). They have extended certain key defensive player to keep that young group together so it looks like Cooper will either be traded or let go.

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2 minutes ago, BigTex said:

It certainly sounds like Cooper is the Odd man out. They’re signing Zeke and Dak the word is two will definitely get signed but no way can they sign three. Four of their five OL are signed until 2023 so that line will be intact for years to come (Zeke and Dak benefits greatly). They have extended certain key defensive player to keep that young group together so it looks like Cooper will either be traded or let go.

Tex

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1 minute ago, sho nuff said:

Have one tomorrow and Im at 1.9...was hoping this news would wait til Thursday.

I’m sure I got lucky, we all watched Bell holdout and drafters didn’t want to get burned again. I took a chance but ended up drafting Mixon, Cook and D. Johnson as insurance just in case. I just never believed Zeke would sit out two years from the NFL and I certainly didn’t believe the Cowboys were actually hedging their bet with Tony Pollard. Lol

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2 minutes ago, rockaction said:

Holy cow. I just went to ESPN to get news about this. Big mistake. Everybody is yelling at me now from the broadcast booth.

Ugh.

Never tune to any ESPN network unless you're positive that the live game that you want to watch is on, and even then be prepared to hit the mute button. They are a truly awful network now. Unwatchable. 

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5 minutes ago, Man In The Box said:

Never tune to any ESPN network unless you're positive that the live game that you want to watch is on, and even then be prepared to hit the mute button. They are a truly awful network now. Unwatchable. 

No. Doubt. Terrible network.

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ESPN's Adam Schefter confirms the Cowboys are "very close" to reaching an extension with holdout RB Ezekiel Elliott.

Per Schefter, Elliott is being accompanied to Dallas by his agent Rocky Arceneaux. Zeke is returning after spending most of the past month training in Mexico. The only real question now is if Elliott will be in game shape for Week 1. He could be on a pitch count or a healthy scratch ahead of a Week 2 return.

SOURCE: Adam Schefter on Twitter

Sep 3, 2019, 2:40 PM ET

 

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